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To ask him to clarify he won't hit me!?

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ThisIsMyNameOkay · 03/06/2024 00:01

I've had a physically violent ex in the past. I've blanked out a lot of the things he did to me. I vaguely remember the police having to help me escape. It was a horrible time. I was very open about this past relationship with my current partner. It was 5 years ago. I still have some PTSD. I'm working on it. However my current partner decided to make a joke about hitting me. Well about 'punching me'. I didn't find it funny at all but I felt in the moment I have the right to just clarify whether he felt it was okay to hit a woman. Then he got incredibly angry with me. Starting shouting and swearing saying I was insinuating he would beat me?!? From
Me simply asking him to clarify his comment wasn't real? Context below;

In the sitting room. He talks about how he's been a bastard to me recently (he has, very angry and bitchy because he's tired from work) he said 'I'm surprised you haven't slapped me'. I then said 'it's never even crossed my mind, I've never slapped anyone' he then responded with 'well if you decided to then I'd probably have a reflex response and punch you back'..........
I then said, 'you wouldn't actually punch a woman would you?' (He's been in the army, he knows his strength) he then says 'well it depends, if you slap me, I'll punch you back, or like if we are playing slaps and you slap my face I'll slap you harder'. (During this entire interaction he's not smiling or laughing, dead pan face).
I feel disgusted. AIBU to want to walk away considering he's now had a go at me for questioning him about his comments

OP posts:
FauxIgnorance · 03/06/2024 07:21

ThisIsMyNameOkay · 03/06/2024 00:07

This is what I don't get!! He's stormed into the other room now. Apparently 'I can't take a joke'. I'm 'making him out to be a wife beater' and 'it's been two years, if I was going to beat you up I would've done it by now'.

These are the comments I'm getting and I'm the one being made to feel guilty. I feel sick and confused!

Every single comment he has made disgusts me OP. I cannot imagine a decent man ever saying this stuff. Please get out if you can.

Ansjovis · 03/06/2024 07:21

You're never going to get him to admit that his response was inappropriate. I'm just saying this as I've read many similar posts and it seems like the woman is hanging on for this admission, as if she doesn't trust herself to make that decision unless he admits it. The good news is that it doesn't matter what he thinks, you can absolutely make your mind up that this is unacceptable. So what if he thinks that you're overreacting? He can think that if he wants, it should be of no consequence to you as you know what you saw and heard.

A decent man would have been horrified, even without knowing your history, and immediately apologised. The fact that this guy doubled down and then did the old DARVO (Deny Attack Reverse Victim and Offender) tells you what you need to know. Bin him - you don't need his permission.

Bestyearever2024 · 03/06/2024 07:19

He has admitted that under certain circumstances he WILL hit you

He WILL HIT YOU

Then he has gas lit you about what was said

In addition he has used anger, physical distance and verbal aggression to frighten you into seeing it his way

Leave

ageratum1 · 03/06/2024 07:14

I think he is telling you something!

Duckswaddle · 03/06/2024 07:11

Yep he’s abusive too.

Just leave him.

Bananawotsit · 03/06/2024 07:07

Reading this made my blood run cold. He’s goading uou so you slap him so it’s your fault when he punches you?
he is telling you who he is.

please I hope you are ok today and can get some support.
please leave him.

He will never try to see anything from your side. He will always blame you for his behaviour.

so sorry you are going through this.

determinedtomakethiswork · 03/06/2024 06:22

You have replaced one abuser with another.

You need to get away from him as as soon as you can and I wouldn't tell him I was going until I had gone. I would speak to women's aid about this.

The way he is talking would absolutely terrify me.

Cucumbering · 03/06/2024 06:15

This isn’t how a loving supportive partner behaves. Work stress is no excuse.

Cucumbering · 03/06/2024 06:15

This would make me feel unsure of him and question how safe I’d be with him. You’ve been together a short time and already he’s showing his true colours, bitching post work and weirdly talking about punching you, which is particularly manipulative what with your history of trauma.

WaltzingWaters · 03/06/2024 06:14

Whether he would physically hurt you or not is somewhat irrelevant at the moment - you should get out either way - he’s mentally hurting you and already, quite intentionally, causing you unnecessary anxiety. It seems like a way to control you. For context, I’ve never had a BF insinuate that they may hit/punch me - it isn’t a normal conversation to have with your partner (because it should be a given that won’t ever happen), and the fact that he knows your background and how triggering it would be makes this far more concerning - he was trying to get a reaction.
He just sounds like a bully - whether physically or emotionally, or both. Please get out of this relationship and don’t listen to his excuses and pleads that he was only joking, because it really isn’t remotely funny or okay.

TeaGinandFags · 03/06/2024 06:12

There's no point is discussing this with him. He'll twist your words into pretzels.

Just show him the door and say it's over.

If he doesn't leave call the police and get a non molestation order.

Bananalanacake · 03/06/2024 06:04

It's only been 2 years, hopefully you don't live together, you need to be wary of moving partners in quickly after you've been a victim of DV, you need your space. If it's your house tell him to leave.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 03/06/2024 05:47

You are not being dramatic at all.

DH has never suggesting that he would hit, slap or punch me. Ever.

The way he’s spoken to you and behaved once you called him out on it is so completely wrong. But he’s got you second guessing yourself. He may or may not get physically violent but not all abuse is.

can you get all your stuff and go somewhat today?

Wallywobbles · 03/06/2024 05:26

What are you circumstances? Can you leave him easily? If you can I'd say go and block. Don't bother with questions and explanations. Just go.

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 03/06/2024 05:14

Don’t bother getting him to clarify anything. Just chuck him asap. He knows what you’ve been through and he’s messing with your head. Absolute cunt. His behaviour is still bad even without your history but with it, just completely unacceptable.

WiddlinDiddlin · 03/06/2024 05:04

He's engineered the whole thing to upset you and put you on the back foot.

He brought up hitting/slapping/punching.

You de-escalated - 'but I'd never slap anyone'...

He escalates again 'but if you DID I'd...' punch back, slap harder etc.

And then when you get upset, job done, goal achieved and he can minimise with 'you can't take a joke' and 'you're too sensitive'..

Get out. He's a prick, he's telling you loud and clear he is a prick and it doesn't matter if he never hits you, he likes making you feel like this. He is getting off on doing this to you and thats bad enough.

Shoxfordian · 03/06/2024 05:02

He's normalising violence so when he is violent to you, he can say he said he would be under these circumstances so you knew it was coming

He's abusive and potentially dangerous to you. Leave and do the freedom programme, carry on with your therapy, be single and safe and happy.

Theunamedcat · 03/06/2024 04:52

My ex once made up a scenario where he shot me to death for cheating I've never cheated never want to bit he went into detail about everything he gave it a lot of thought

He wasn't joking

Bigcat25 · 03/06/2024 03:56

thebillcollector · 03/06/2024 00:10

'if I was going to beat you up I would've done it by now'

This line is a screaming red flag.

Stay safe

Agree. And his works escalated what she asked. She asked if he would hit a women, and he's talking about "beating up." With all the arguments and manipulations it's definitely time to leave. Sorry op, it isn't an easy thing to go through and you deserve better.

StopStartStop · 03/06/2024 03:48

Run.

DungballInADress · 03/06/2024 03:44

I never say this because it never ends well but in this case I will make an exception.

Leave. The. Bastard.

These are red flags. Huge red flags. Also recognising he's been awful to you recently is like he is trying to manipulate a situation with you.

Run, don't walk away from this man. Fast. In the opposite direction.

Topseyt123 · 03/06/2024 03:40

I don't think he is joking. This is a thinly veiled threat and,taken in conjunction with his other behaviour, it is telling you loud and clear who he is.

Get rid.

theGooHasGone · 03/06/2024 03:06

Sorry OP, but he isn't joking. He's just trying to wind it all back because it didn't go down the way he wanted it to.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/06/2024 02:18

WirralCyrille · 03/06/2024 01:11

I’m not trying to change your mind, I just disagree with you. You have an opinion, as do I. My opinion is that a partner shouldn’t make those sort of comments, particularly when they know that someone has had a violent partner in the past.

Then aim your opinion at the OP and not to me.

Caerulea · 03/06/2024 01:40

You aren't wrong, you aren't being silly, you aren't misunderstanding, you aren't over-egging, you aren't over-sensitive etc etc etc ETC!

There's just no way to justify what he said in response to a conversation HE started. No man worth his salt would deadpan remind their female partner that they can hit harder nevermind that, should the occasion arise, they definitely will. Women do not need reminding & 100% no survivor of DV does cos you already know & he damn well knows you do.

In your shoes I would take his words as a thinly veiled threat, a way to remind you who has all the control should he choose to take it.

You're safer well out of this & focusing on yourself & your upcoming therapy.

Are you in a position to kick him out or must you leave? If the latter, do you have family/friends who will support you?

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