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To ask him to clarify he won't hit me!?

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ThisIsMyNameOkay · 03/06/2024 00:01

I've had a physically violent ex in the past. I've blanked out a lot of the things he did to me. I vaguely remember the police having to help me escape. It was a horrible time. I was very open about this past relationship with my current partner. It was 5 years ago. I still have some PTSD. I'm working on it. However my current partner decided to make a joke about hitting me. Well about 'punching me'. I didn't find it funny at all but I felt in the moment I have the right to just clarify whether he felt it was okay to hit a woman. Then he got incredibly angry with me. Starting shouting and swearing saying I was insinuating he would beat me?!? From
Me simply asking him to clarify his comment wasn't real? Context below;

In the sitting room. He talks about how he's been a bastard to me recently (he has, very angry and bitchy because he's tired from work) he said 'I'm surprised you haven't slapped me'. I then said 'it's never even crossed my mind, I've never slapped anyone' he then responded with 'well if you decided to then I'd probably have a reflex response and punch you back'..........
I then said, 'you wouldn't actually punch a woman would you?' (He's been in the army, he knows his strength) he then says 'well it depends, if you slap me, I'll punch you back, or like if we are playing slaps and you slap my face I'll slap you harder'. (During this entire interaction he's not smiling or laughing, dead pan face).
I feel disgusted. AIBU to want to walk away considering he's now had a go at me for questioning him about his comments

OP posts:
uncomfortablydumb53 · 03/06/2024 14:16

Definitely meet with his ex I'm guessing she wants to warn you.
You've now experienced what she likely did
I had this with an ex messaged me, stupidly I thought he'd be different with me... He wasn't. He broke my shoulder

uncomfortablydumb53 · 03/06/2024 14:08

No he's justifying his reasons why he might
He wasn't joking
I'd advise you to end it and concentrate on healing from your PTSD
I'm sorry, no one deserves that

WittyFatball · 03/06/2024 14:00

Get rid of this man.

Never in 15 years has my DH come up with scenarios in which he'd feel justified to punch me. Not even as a joke.

RochelleGoyle · 03/06/2024 13:58

Aw, get away from him. Plenty of nice men out there who don't believe in using violence, even if struck first. His attitude is vile and justifies aggression.

Jadeleigh196 · 03/06/2024 13:58

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 03/06/2024 08:48

No, just a strong, practical person who doesn’t take offence or read more into anything than there needs to be. Perhaps that’s why I’ve been in a stable relationship for nearly 30 years knowing we are equals. Never had to post on MM or any other forum for relationship advice etc. Mo need to send me flowers - I can grow my own 😀

So count yourself lucky you haven't found yourself in OPs situation then. Just because she has posted on MN doesn't make her 'weak or impractical' which is what you are implying. You sound nasty and judgmental. Abuse is never the victim's fault. It makes people doubt their reality and more likely to need support from others--that's nothing to be ashamed of. The Ex is not a 'random person' by any stretch and might be able to warn and help the OP. You have a very twisted view on this and clearly shouldn't be giving an opinion when you don't have a similar experience.

Frogandfish · 03/06/2024 13:56

I would actually just walk. He doesn't sound pleasant at all, you have had many arguments started by him, he doesn't take responsibility for his role, you've got kids to think of now this.

He knows you've got a history of DV and he engineered a conversation about hitting you for no good reason. He could have said 'sorry for being so grouchy lately. Work has been tough'. He's tactless and not very bright at best.

Have confidence in your own convictions, you don't need to meet the ex to make a decision. Base that on your own relationship.

MrBojangles1983 · 03/06/2024 13:55

Walk away…. He’s got it in him

NoWayRose · 03/06/2024 13:52

The irony that he got so angry and abusive after the question of if he could ever be abusive. Your daughters have a right not to be in a house with someone who takes their bad work days out on others.

Yes meet the woman, but I would call Women’s Aid to ask for advice on how to get out safely. (You may need to do this even more urgently if he finds out.)

ThreeLocusts · 03/06/2024 13:46

OP take a deep breath, you're doing well, you're thinking this through and seeing the implications. Having observed my mother go from one abusive partner to the next, because somehow having been abused once 'marks' you and some men sniff you at as someone who can be bashed into shape - LTB.

As for the PTSD, can you get some EMDR? I've heard good things about it. All the best. Flowers

greenmario · 03/06/2024 13:33

Yes I think u should meet her today

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 03/06/2024 13:31

Clare's Law as a minimum.

Leave asap as the preferred option.

Waitingfordoggo · 03/06/2024 13:25

Crikey! No, throw this one back.

He’s likely dangerous and is, at the very least, incredibly cruel to make ‘joke’ threats when he knows you were a victim of DV.

Get away asap. 💐

Bananalanacake · 03/06/2024 13:21

I don't understand, if the Emails and FB messages were sent to you and you only from the ex gf how did he even know? if he was looking at your personal emails that is very controlling and you should have dumped him for that.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 03/06/2024 13:08

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/06/2024 11:17

I agree. @J0S has really hit the nail on the head.

Yes, great post. He is NEVER genuinely going to look at the evidence and go "ohhh yes, you are right.".
Even if he plays Mr Nice Guy, he will just be biding his time.

therealcookiemonster · 03/06/2024 13:02

leave

HappierTimesAhead · 03/06/2024 12:54

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 03/06/2024 08:38

I know I’m always in the minority but he made a throwaway comment and you reacted (understandably). However if it was me I would feel you had effectively just accused me of being a wifebeater. If you need him to clarify and say the words you obviously don’t trust him. As for he’d slap you back if you slapped him - quite right - someone slapped me - make it female I’d bloody slap them right back. You obviously have trauma but that’s not his fault.

It would take a very fragile ego to jump to 'wifebeater' accusations in this scenario. But then we know there is strong correlation between fragile male egos and domestic abuse.
A well adjusted and secure man would have recognised that his partner has PTSD and needed reassurance that he would never ever hurt her. Instead he provided examples of when he would hurt her.
So sorry OP, I hope you have support to get out.

Peclet · 03/06/2024 12:48

So many red flags, calling his ex a "pscho" is another one!

I would ask him to leave. On your terms and for your own reasons. Nothing to do with his ex and as she is someone you do not know I think it is risky to meet her as she may well tell him about it, and then what?

medianewbie · 03/06/2024 12:43

Leave. Right now. He knows you experienced violence before. He thinks you're primed for more. He's chatting about it to you. Casually. Run far away.

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 03/06/2024 12:40

in the end you won't even need to slap him first. You'll touch him in an argument and his mind will make the connection to this visualisation and that will be all it takes I imagine

exactly right.

Feelsodrained · 03/06/2024 12:40

Yes meet with her. I bet she will tell you some home truths about him. What sort of person jokes about punching their partner, especially when she has PTSD from spousal violence? Disgusting and you deserve better.

Whoswhoof · 03/06/2024 12:31

I was going to say YABU until I read the context. And what’s being together for 2 years got to do with anything? Usually we don’t meet people punching our lights out and then decide to embark on a relationship with them Confused takes time

MojoMoon · 03/06/2024 11:36

And I wouldn't meet his ex because:

A) I think you are putting yourself and your family at risk of harm should be find out

B) it's basically irrelevant. Regardless of what she says, this is a bad man and a bad relationship and you need to leave. Her evidence either way doesn't change that.

MojoMoon · 03/06/2024 11:34

Regardless of whether he says he won't hit you, this sounds like a deeply unhealthy relationship (him being angry and bitchy and you seemingly placating him and walking on egg shells)

It doesn't seem like you know what a normal, healthy adult relationship looks like.

For your benefit but even more so for your children, you need to leave this relationship and you need to not get into any other relationship with a man until you have had a lot of therapy.

Exactlab · 03/06/2024 11:34

ThisIsMyNameOkay · 03/06/2024 08:04

Slight update:

Firstly thank you so much everyone who's commented. Regardless of whose 'side' you're on. I still appreciate your input so I can see if I am being unreasonable. I haven't spoken to him since last night. Like I said we've been having a lot of little arguments and he always says the most hurtful things then tries to be loving afterwards, then he gets annoyed at me for still being hurt. After this punching me comment I did something a bit reckless. When I first got together with him I had multiple emails and Facebook messages from his ex. He blocked and concealed pretty much all of them saying she's a 'psycho'. I reached out last night, politely, honestly didn't expect her to respond but she's asked to meet for coffee today. I think I'm going to lightly chat about why she messaged so much and see if his behaviour slips into the conversation. Is this stupid? I feel stupid? I'm just worried now about who he is and what he's done because with my ex all of his exs reached out to me and checked I was okay and I was delusional then and ignored it. Oh god is this a stupid idea? Am I fanning flames here or being disrespectful? I have children I don't want to be with someone who could hit us. They are girls. I can't risk it. Urgh heads going a million miles an hour

I would meet up with her. Enough time has passed for her to calm down over the relationship breakdown - but I think she may have reached out to you to warn you.

You know your partner is abusive because the behaviour you described is classed as abusive behaviour.

He orchestrated a set of hypothetical events so that he could tell you he would punch you - only to go off ranting and raving and saying he was joking.

How is any of that a joke?

Why is he angry at you when you calmly asked for clarification?

The answer is because he’s an abuser. He orchestrated this entire scenario to make you feel bad.

Meet up with his ex. Then make your escape plan. You will need to make sure you don’t give him any notice you’re leaving because it won’t be safe for you to leave.

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