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Adult children contributing to costs

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JackyPaper · 02/06/2024 17:03

I know I’m not being unreasonable to ask for a contribution to household costs from my adult child.
I’m a single parent with a good job but all my income is accounted for so no surplus. I still have under 16s at home. I’ve calculated how much it costs to have them living here (increased council tax, energy etc).
They have gently raised with me that they think it is too much compared to what their friends pay. I said friends parents are clearly subsidising which I’m not prepared to do, even if I could. Adult child works full time.

If you have working adult children living at home, how much rent do they pay you?

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JackyPaper · 02/06/2024 18:58

NoSquirrels · 02/06/2024 18:54

Are they in debt and struggling? Is that why they’re moving back in, and arguing about minimal costs to live? If they’ve lived away previously then they know fine well living isn’t free, so there must be more to it if they’re giving out about contributing what sounds like a small amount. I’d do some gentle digging into their finances, I suppose.

A good reflection. In this instance that isn’t the case.

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NoSquirrels · 02/06/2024 18:54

Are they in debt and struggling? Is that why they’re moving back in, and arguing about minimal costs to live? If they’ve lived away previously then they know fine well living isn’t free, so there must be more to it if they’re giving out about contributing what sounds like a small amount. I’d do some gentle digging into their finances, I suppose.

grungey · 02/06/2024 18:52

Wait let me get this straight .... your adult child has gently sat you down to tell you a whopping 10% of their salary is too much for you to be charging for expenses?!! They are having a laugh, if as you state you are in a position where all your disposable income is accounted for?

JackyPaper · 02/06/2024 18:51

DG1749 · 02/06/2024 18:20

I charge DD the extra I spend on her being here. No extra on mortgage, broadband or council tax as we'd pay them anyway, but energy and water is a bit more, and food definitely more. I think £200 is fair, to include free access to food, drink and communal toiletries.

This is exactly the approach I have taken. All the costs I would have anyway (mortgage, broadband etc) don’t come in to my calculation. Just the increase in council tax, energy and food. They are moving back in after having lived away so car running costs insurance, phone etc are already paid for by them.

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JackyPaper · 02/06/2024 18:47

MikeRafone · 02/06/2024 17:44

There is a set government table on how much rent for a bedroom

Gosh, that is double what I have actually asked for!!!

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Runnerduck34 · 02/06/2024 18:45

I would say the additional 25% council tax charge as you can't get single person discount then about £50 a week for food and bills.
Basically I'd do it at cost.

ChangeAgain2 · 02/06/2024 18:44

@JackyPaper I think it's an eye opener for them to look at the cost of living elsewhere , doing research to how much it would cost icluding the cost of rent, council tax, utilities, phone bill, car if they have one and associated bills, food, toiletries, clothing ect

inwtead of seeing it as you taking money off them they could view it as the huge savings they will be making by being at home.

Whatever you agree on I'd also add an extra £50 a month and put it in premium bonds or a savings account for when they decide to move out.

Miley1967 · 02/06/2024 18:44

I don't charge mine anything as we are mortgage free and he buys a lot of his own food so doesn't really cost us much and I know he is savings hard for his own place. he also is the only one of my four who has not gone to Uni and so we haven't had to support him for extra years like we have the others. I used to charge my other son ( who has now moved out) a bit as he was irresponsible with money and as his gf also used to live with us I charged her a little.
I agree with others though, it doesn't matter what other people do or why, if you feel your child is costing you a certain amount to live there then it's fine to charge them that. Everyone's situation is different.

JackyPaper · 02/06/2024 18:36

Chocolateorange22 · 02/06/2024 17:22

If you have no spare income then you definitely can't subsidise them. I'd be of the opinion that you are an adult, this is what it costs me extra in utilities/food etc to have you here. I need you to contribute x amount otherwise I'm afraid you'll need to look elsewhere for somewhere to live. It's not fair for me to have a poor standard of living whilst still trying to bring up two children.

However as they are an adult I'd comprise a spreadsheet of the outgoing costs Vs what you bring in first before asking them to leave if you get resistance. Treat them like an adult, engage with them to where you could possibly could cut costs as a collective household. Show them why you want more rent. What their friends pay is irrespective, every household is different. Engage with them as an adult and you are more likely to get the result that you want.

Thanks for all your comments and collective wisdom. I am taking the approach above. Not charging ‘rent’ (I missed used this word in my original post) but asking for them to cover the costs I am incurring as a result of them moving back in. No issue with that. It’s about 10% of their salary. All of this is fair. My adult child and I are talking reasonably and discussing the cost breakdown as suggested by the poster above. I like the idea of looking together to see how we can bring the costs down. @Chocolateorange22 Thanks all

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Floralnomad · 02/06/2024 18:31

hendoop · 02/06/2024 17:37

My plan is to charge £500
And save it for their house deposit- so dd gets used to having a lot of her salary taken away for cost of housing etc. we have discussed this as she wishes to get an apprenticeship after college and get on the housing ladder asap- so needs to get used to budgeting

Why are you taking it then , just get them to save it as that way they are actually learning something - you save = you can have / buy . Taking it and saving for them is infantilising.

NoSquirrels · 02/06/2024 18:22

So what have you calculated in increased costs? What is that as a proportion of their income? And how old is the adult DC?

I’d expect a far bigger contribution from a 23 year old than an 18 year old, for instance. In terms of actual increased costs, it’s surely fairly low (25% council tax, plus gas & electric) if food is excluded.

DG1749 · 02/06/2024 18:20

I charge DD the extra I spend on her being here. No extra on mortgage, broadband or council tax as we'd pay them anyway, but energy and water is a bit more, and food definitely more. I think £200 is fair, to include free access to food, drink and communal toiletries.

vodkaredbullgirl · 02/06/2024 18:12

My DD has more savings than me, she pays money towards household bills. So if that makes me mean, she is the one who said she would pay towards things.

YoongiMarryMe · 02/06/2024 18:12

Mine pays £40 a week. I feel guilty about it being that much but with food and utility increases I really do need it!

OhmygodDont · 02/06/2024 18:11

LazyBumMum · 02/06/2024 18:01

Clearly, some people just view children as a money making racket. Probably can’t wait for them to start work so they can exploit them for their own financial gain. Disgraceful.

I do wonder how much more they can really cost.

apart from losing the 25% discount with only works if your a single parent.

The only extra costs of them being an adult is what, loss of their child benefit at what £25? A week, and any other deduction of benefits.

Now I’m all for helping teach budgeting but it sounds like a lot of parents could do with that lesson if they genuinely NEED their children to pay £300/£400/£500 a month not saving any of it for them.

LazyBumMum · 02/06/2024 18:01

caringcarer · 02/06/2024 17:38

1/2 of all take home pay is ridiculous. That would be charging a child between £12-£15k, just for remaining at home. It does not cost that much in food, gas, electricity for one more person living in a home you already have. As for taking all their money, then giving it back to them years later, that is treating them like infants who can't manage their own money. My DS opened a LISA and saved £10k each year. The money got the 25 percent government premium added to it. Then he used this towards his deposit. The thing is you bring them up to be financially responsible and to want to save. Taking away their money and saving it for them screams you don't trust them to save on their own and see them as financially incompetent. Why would you want to do that to your DC? 🤷

Clearly, some people just view children as a money making racket. Probably can’t wait for them to start work so they can exploit them for their own financial gain. Disgraceful.

Sunnyside4 · 02/06/2024 17:48

DD pays us £200pm. Either they pay so much a month or suggest their equal share of council tax, utilties and food.

Taciturn · 02/06/2024 17:45

caringcarer · 02/06/2024 17:38

1/2 of all take home pay is ridiculous. That would be charging a child between £12-£15k, just for remaining at home. It does not cost that much in food, gas, electricity for one more person living in a home you already have. As for taking all their money, then giving it back to them years later, that is treating them like infants who can't manage their own money. My DS opened a LISA and saved £10k each year. The money got the 25 percent government premium added to it. Then he used this towards his deposit. The thing is you bring them up to be financially responsible and to want to save. Taking away their money and saving it for them screams you don't trust them to save on their own and see them as financially incompetent. Why would you want to do that to your DC? 🤷

It's not about how much it is costing the parent - it is about how much it would otherwise cost the adult child to make alternative arrangements.

And i did caveat it with putting the difference in a savings account - a LISA if you wish. I am not suggesting that parents profiteer from their children, but rather they put their children in a realistic expenditure position.

MikeRafone · 02/06/2024 17:44

There is a set government table on how much rent for a bedroom

Adult children contributing to costs
Butchyrestingface · 02/06/2024 17:44

LazyBumMum · 02/06/2024 17:28

“I still have under 16s at home. I’ve calculated how much it costs to have them living here (increased council tax, energy etc).”

Wow, there are parents who sit around doing this? With a pen and paper, and calculator in hand?

Why have so many children when you clearly can’t afford them? The mind boggles.

She's talking about the eldest only, not the under 16s. That is why gender neutral 'them' can be confusing.

I think charging them for bills and associated costs is fine. Not rent unless you would otherwise rent the room out in their absence.

hendoop · 02/06/2024 17:44

It's hard as you want the kids to be treated equally but if one goes to uni and one gets a job, I don't feel right charging rent to one and then paying the others fees

Gogogo12345 · 02/06/2024 17:44

caringcarer · 02/06/2024 17:38

1/2 of all take home pay is ridiculous. That would be charging a child between £12-£15k, just for remaining at home. It does not cost that much in food, gas, electricity for one more person living in a home you already have. As for taking all their money, then giving it back to them years later, that is treating them like infants who can't manage their own money. My DS opened a LISA and saved £10k each year. The money got the 25 percent government premium added to it. Then he used this towards his deposit. The thing is you bring them up to be financially responsible and to want to save. Taking away their money and saving it for them screams you don't trust them to save on their own and see them as financially incompetent. Why would you want to do that to your DC? 🤷

If 12-1&k would be half their income then they would be on better wages than me lol

My son intends to move abroad asap after uni but if he's here he will need to pay the 25% extra in council tax, a contribution towards utilities and internet and but his own food. Nothing for rent of room as that doesn't cost me extra

User1979289 · 02/06/2024 17:43

There are 2 different amounts to consider: 1) What it costs - ie a 1/3 of all bills but also what you'll pay if they move out - them leaving will not reduce the mortgage etc.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 02/06/2024 17:42

LazyBumMum · 02/06/2024 17:28

“I still have under 16s at home. I’ve calculated how much it costs to have them living here (increased council tax, energy etc).”

Wow, there are parents who sit around doing this? With a pen and paper, and calculator in hand?

Why have so many children when you clearly can’t afford them? The mind boggles.

I took "them" to be none gender specific adult child rather than all of the kids.
Given that this mum has no spare cash and adult child is working FT then it's only right that adult child should contribute.
I read it that she doesn't want to make a profit she just can't subsidise the child.
OP i would suggest that adult child makes up the shortfall in the extra council tax that you'll now be paying and any benefit you may have lost if they'd previously been in FT education and a little more to help with the bills.
They need to learn some financial responsibility

Taciturn · 02/06/2024 17:41

BarHumbugs · 02/06/2024 17:35

Really? There's 18 years between having children and them growing up so circumstances can change. It's also ok for people who are poor to have children or for parents to try to teach their children the value of money.

Why have children when simple Maths eludes you? The mind boggles.

Edited

The clue is in the @LazyBumMum handle I think.

@LazyBumMum Let's try to remember that all children are a blessing even if that dont always arrive at the mosy comvenient of times and sometime we have to say that through gritted teeth