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AIBU to wish that there was dedicated housing for quiet people?

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NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 13:40

I’m Autistic(Diagnosed) and I’ve never been a fan of noise but I’m becoming increasingly noise averse as I’m approaching middle age.

I don’t expect complete silence and I actively enjoy hearing two of my neighbours’ children play and having fun but some others seem to spend 3/4 of their time screaming. Why do so many children seem to scream now?

Plus there’s the thump of footballs, rusty trampoline springs, people playing loud music, fireworks and so many other loud intrusive noises.

I want to get away from it all but moving rurally(I’m semi rural) isn’t really the best option for me due to disabilities.

I think that I’m going to have to move to an over 50s complex as soon as I’m old enough. Though I fear the blaring televisions.

AIBU to wish that there was specific housing for quiet noise averse people like me?

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Thelastbitofketchup · 02/06/2024 17:06

so sick of people trying to police other people to their wants

Yes heaven forbid that anyone wants to live their life while simultaneously being considerate of others. It’s perfectly possible to do both if you aren’t a selfish wanker.

so no need for the segregation you’re suggesting then?🙄

SillyLemonHelper · 02/06/2024 17:05

Sounds great in theory, but the reason why this wouldn't work is because ND people are only averse to others' noise – and not their own!

We all make noise without realising just how much (eg if the seemingly low noise is amplified a certain way for someone in the next room), plus everyone has different specific noise triggers.

Also, the conversations/conflict between ND neighbours re the noise would go very badly!

Saying this as an ND person myself with plenty of experience with other ND people!

DdraigGoch · 02/06/2024 17:05

Idling cars and motorbikes get fined. (by whom? you can't even report rapes and burglaries. I freely admit none of this is possible)

The thing about burglaries and rapes is that they are difficult (i.e. expensive) to investigate and prosecute. Offences involving motor vehicles are easy. Footage from ANPR or submitted by the public means that the process is almost automatic.

I'd just ban all cars. Most people can use bicycles, others can use mobility scooters, and those jobs too big for a cargo bike can be done with some electric vehicles from STIMBO Elektrofahrzeuge, like in Zermatt.

Cities aren't loud, cars are loud:

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ChrissyShenkle · 02/06/2024 17:05

It's for over 45s. Just had a look

betterangels · 02/06/2024 17:04

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 16:58

If they really are screaming several hours a day, it is not the only issue there is.

I find that a majority of kids seem to scream now, even if they don’t have special needs. I’m not the only one who’s noticed this.

No, I've noticed this on public transport.

I love your idea and would jump at it. Sometimes I wear headphones to block out neighbours' excessive noise. It seems that shouldn't be necessary.

ChrissyShenkle · 02/06/2024 17:02

There is, there's a housing scheme near me which is just for people with no children, not sure if it just older people or those with no children too

CanadianJohn · 02/06/2024 17:01

I've lived for 40 years in a VERY quiet neighbourhood. Shortly after we moved here, one of my neighbours complained because I mowed the lawn on a Sunday... the Lord's Day. (I told him that I was not religious, and didn't feel the need to "keep holy the Sabbath Day".

Nowadays, almost everyone mows their lawn on Sundays.

DdraigGoch · 02/06/2024 17:00

PaperSheet · 02/06/2024 14:58

I was on a quiet coach once and a family got on with 2 kids who they allowed to watch iPads at a loud volume. When someone reminded them it was the quiet carriage the woman replied she knew that but her kids had autism and needed the quiet coach as they couldn't stand noise from others. But also they couldn't wear headphones so needed to listen to their shows out loud.
So yeah I can imagine loud people will still want to live in quiet apartments for the same reason. THEY want everyone to be quiet but they need allowances to make noise.

Some people have such brass neck.

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 16:58

If they really are screaming several hours a day, it is not the only issue there is.

I find that a majority of kids seem to scream now, even if they don’t have special needs. I’m not the only one who’s noticed this.

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Gensola · 02/06/2024 16:57

The selfish arseholes a few doors down from us let their large dog bark all day and night - it’s stopping us from selling our house. It starts at 7am and goes on til late at night as they leave it in the garden bored out of its mind all day. I reported them to the RSPCA but no one cares.

LlynTegid · 02/06/2024 16:49

If they really are screaming several hours a day, it is not the only issue there is.

Boomer55 · 02/06/2024 16:48

In an ideal world, there would be specified housing for all people. It’s not an ideal world, and we just do the best we can.

Averagelife · 02/06/2024 16:46

It is possible to have quiet dogs
Sighthounds are usually quiet 🤫 in my experience- but there are exceptions to every rule
I looked after my friend’s Whippet and she was barking- but my own dog is so quiet people have said “Is there a dog in there?!”

Dont get me wrong, I expect to hear dogs bark and especially if the owner is on it and quick to deal with it but it’s the owners that know from the second their dog goes out that it’s going to bark, and bark, and bark and do sod all! This can happen as late as 11pm, just as you’re dropping off to sleep.

But there’s no recourse, everyone is too frightened to report because they know that they’ll then have to declare it should they move at a later date - what is the point in having ASB teams if people are just too worried to make a complaint. I just think the more crowded we become and houses are thrown up like rabbit hutches, dog ownership keeps steadily increasing, the worse it becomes!

Victor Meldrew rant over!

DancelikeFredAstaire · 02/06/2024 16:45

I'm packing my bags ready to join you OP.
For the last 4 hours there has been constant screaming, fighting and arguing from the kids next door, the "thump, thump, thump" of a football being kicked against the wall separating my garden from a common area of land because clearly the 5 minute walk to the local playing field (where there are actual goalposts), is too much of an effort and I have no idea what the bloke opposite is building but it apparently involves the use of a circular saw for 3 hours.
All this in, what is laughingly described by every estate agent for miles around, a "sleepy village".

dottiedodah · 02/06/2024 16:27

Im fine with children (Not screaming though) .some music (not all day long) ,And a dog barking 10 mins max .(My own dog 1 bark and shes in) .Impressed with myself as NDN said they didnt know we had a dog as they never hear her! What I hate is drilling ,hammering and garden equipment.

CatMum27 · 02/06/2024 16:26

Sounds like utter bliss. Can I come? Swear the neighbours here have a rota for power tools - no sooner does one stop then another one starts so it lasts all day.

LordPercyPercy · 02/06/2024 16:19

I save and save to buy a detached house and yet I can guarantee you people on here would be annoyed at me for "having a house bigger than I need".

This. We're rattling around, two of us with four bedrooms and four bogs because am I buggery going to be attached to neighbours and at the mercy of how loud or quiet they choose to be.

Also diagnosed ASD.

oakleaffy · 02/06/2024 16:15

Averagelife · 02/06/2024 15:12

I live on a (very squashed together) new build estate with back gardens in a court yard design. One dog barks and they all start. It is so antisocial and unfair on the rest of us that just want to enjoy our gardens too. I wouldn’t mind but nobody even bothers to quieten their dogs, it’s almost like it’s seen as acceptable because the neighbours dog does it then its ok for theirs to bark too!

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Barky dogs are really irritating
Mine doesn’t even bark if the postman/ woman knocks.

Mum moved to get away from a yelping Schnauzer
Some dogs are far worse at barking than others.

It is possible to have quiet dogs
Sighthounds are usually quiet 🤫 in my experience- but there are exceptions to every rule
I looked after my friend’s Whippet and she was barking- but my own dog is so quiet people have said “Is there a dog in there?!”

Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 15:57

It’s interesting that different cultures (and even different areas) have very different attitudes to noise.

In France, especially in cities, they are very strict and you really can’t make much noise at all in the evenings without getting shouted at and even the police being called. Luckily the area I am living in now is decent (suburban sw London), normal family noises but pretty quiet in the evenings.

To me, making others listen to loud noise isn’t much different to a smoky barbecue going into someone else’s garden or littering, all forms of pollution but some seem to think very differently about it.

achipandachair · 02/06/2024 15:57

You know people really don't get it when someone complains about their neighbour making a noise and someone else says "well when your toddler gets you up at 6am, why not retaliate with the hoover / "the wheels on the bus" etc at top volume" and you think NOOOOOO ! It's just legitimising people being noisy arseholes to be a noisy arsehole! They won't experience it as retaliation, they will just think "good I live near people who don't mind noise I'll turn the garden stereo up a few notches this afternoon". And if they did experience it as retaliation - would it make them shut up, or escalate?

ageratum1 · 02/06/2024 15:56

Well yes, but everyone wants quiet neighbours!who is going to sign up to have noisy ones?

StirlingMallory · 02/06/2024 15:52

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 15:27

I wish that I could move to Switzerland.

I'm coming with you.

hattie43 · 02/06/2024 15:51

Is it Germany that limits noise from people , if so I wish we could have that .
Back firing loud cars / motorbikes are banned
No lawnmowers etc before 9am
No loud music ever , if you want to hear it put headphones on
No constant screaming / dog barking / arguing
Oh if only

Guiltyaboutwork · 02/06/2024 15:45

Fantasy world I’d love this. Also include a soundproofed hall for residents to have events.

No dogs as when you get a dog you don’t know how much it will bark (even getting a dog rather then a puppy).

Would need some houses further away that you would have to move to if circumstances change. (You become responsible for a child due to a bereavement) or just decide to have kids.

Unfortunately in the real world it would not be enforceable due to things like disability discrimination. if someone develops dementia you couldn’t make them move from their home just because they became a bit noisy especially if it was the noise in between quieter than usual that the other residents want and very loud noise unacceptable anywhere.

PenguinLord · 02/06/2024 15:45

I never liked partying and really love living in peace and silence. I had an extremely loud flatmate once, who would go to bed at 3am and didnt have to wake up late, I was becoming suicidal because of noise of door banging and I could not just move out like that. Would have loved back in the day to just be able to live in a sociable but quiet and respective space.