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To think it must be miserable going through life being this angry.

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Toddlerteaplease · 02/06/2024 12:10

In cafe Nero. A lady in front of me ordered a special request coffee. Her husband came storming over, and demanded the coffee be remade as it wasn't done to his satisfaction. His wife and the barista looked completely confused. But she was about to re make it. He then decided they were leaving and stoned out with his wife in tow.
I felt really sorry for his wife being married to such an angry man. There was just no need for that behaviour. AIBU to think it's a sad way to lead your life.

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anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 21:07

On the other hand there are men arrested for e.g. DV who go on to assault the arresting police officers. I genuinely think those men are genuine when they say they can't control themselves. I don't know who's scarier - them or the people who can go from screaming at their partner to calm and controlled in an instant.

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 21:04

There's extreme uncontrollable anger like the sister someone mentioned. There are men and women like this too who are genuinely ready to blow a fuse at anyone. They often get hurt. But more commonly there are people who come across as fuse-blowers but only blow their fuse at specific people - e.g. waiting staff who can't shout back, or (in the case of men) women but not other men. I don't think they are faking the anger but they are definitely choosing who to direct it to. One of my old uni friends (male physically very big) was in a car with his mum but sat in the back where they had tinted windows. They were going down a narrow country road and came across another car and neither wanted to reverse. The driver of the other car burst out in an absolute rage and hammered on her window. I genuinely thought he was going to smash it. The son flung his door open and bounced out all cross like and the other man's anger instantly dissipated. So he wasn't actually in an uncontrollable rage.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 02/06/2024 20:39

TheaBrandt · 02/06/2024 15:12

I feel slightly conflicted at the silent wife alongside these angry misogynistic men. Remember one shouting at me that I was a “cunt” his face twisted with hate. I was just cycling along minding my own busjness in my twenties. Wife or partner just sitting there in passenger seat looking down. I think the women are condoning the behaviour by being with the person at all and not speaking up. Afraid i judge them not feel sorry for them.

You don’t speak up because if you do you get punished, often physically, when you get home. Speaking from experience.

Dymaxion · 02/06/2024 19:43

I grew up in a home where it was the female who behaved like this, still does actually. In some ways it makes it very difficult for people to intimidate me, they can shout and scream and fling themselves about and it just makes me switch off until they run out of steam and calm down, which they invariably do.

I do sometimes forget other people haven't been acclimatized to it like I have though, and the noise made by someone behaving like this, feels more violent to them ( and probably rightly so ) than it does to me.

HRTQueen · 02/06/2024 19:37

there are so many bitter angry men

men angry when younger as the world doesn’t accept their greatness

men angry when older knowing that it’s too late for the world to appreciate their greatness

so many of them around I feel for their families

Disturbia81 · 02/06/2024 19:30

Nothing scarier than an angry man. So relieved I'll eternally be single through choice

Lavenderandbrown · 02/06/2024 19:15

I deal with angry men at work. It’s clear they aren’t used to a female calmly politely and professionally calling them on it. I don’t judge their wives saying nothing or avoiding eye contact because I had an abusive exH and I get it…. But I do think oh FFS when their wife covers the behavior by saying….oh he’s just joking. He’s absolutely not joking stop with the excuses

CaptainOliviaBenson · 02/06/2024 18:40

Touty · 02/06/2024 13:54

I felt a bit like that when I had depression, it was agitated depression, I ripped everyone’s heads off at any perceived criticism.

Yes, I recognise this kind of all-consuming anger over the slightest thing from when I had PND.

NoisyBrain · 02/06/2024 18:08

My ex PIL were like that. FIL’s conversations would often be about who he ‘hated’. Usually a politician, celebrity or footballer he’d never met. MIL frequently fell out with friends/family/neighbours, sometimes over really trivial shit, and then held a grudge for ages. If she was in a bad mood the whole family walked on eggshells to avoid her having a screaming temper tantrum. Going out for dinner with them was never fun, I was always just waiting for something/someone to annoy one of them. On reflection it’s no surprise that exH was so emotionally fucked up…

Listengold · 02/06/2024 17:46

Our nextdoor neighbour is like this.
The husband is very easy going and you can talk to him if there is a problem.
She is a nightmare mention a problem and it's ww3.
Man on the other side asked if they could lower their security light as it's shining into the bedroom cue much screaming and aggressive behaviour. Her husband was mortified and has got a full time job to get out of her way. He is 72.
Wife has fallen out with most of the street.

Oblomov24 · 02/06/2024 17:46

Some of these would irritate me. Parking infront of my drive, no queueing. I'm very much a believer in rules. And some peoples behaviour doesn't follow these rules and that's not fair not right.

sp1ders · 02/06/2024 17:36

I agree that agitated depression causes this problem. People imagine that depression always causes people to be withdrawn and quiet, but it can present as the opposite. That's not to say that all angry people are depressed, but I bet a majority of them would be helped by medication. It's a miserable existence being angry all the time and the stress does shorten your life. It usually affects middle aged men who are well known for avoiding going to the GP to ask for help.

It's a shame really because they're wasting their lives and making others' lives miserable.

Olderandwider66 · 02/06/2024 17:29

Goldiedoodling · 02/06/2024 15:08

Probs had a few pints down him.

I wondered that, having lived with a very angry man for too many years to remember, he is now sober 3 years and the anger has dissipated - my life has improved immeasurably, he was an embarrassment at times when we were out, I cringe to think about it.

Long may it continue. Anger is such an exhausting emotion not just for the angry person but for all those around them, bloody horrible..

Temushopper · 02/06/2024 17:28

Touty · 02/06/2024 13:54

I felt a bit like that when I had depression, it was agitated depression, I ripped everyone’s heads off at any perceived criticism.

My husband suffers periodically from depression and he can be like that. It’s not the easiest to not snap back sometimes as well so I always feel stressed when he’s unwell. I hope you are doing a lot better now

HamptonWishList · 02/06/2024 17:26

Extreme anger and a short fuse is often a sign of great stress. People on the edge of a nervous breakdown will often behave like this

Allfur · 02/06/2024 17:22

TheaBrandt · 02/06/2024 15:12

I feel slightly conflicted at the silent wife alongside these angry misogynistic men. Remember one shouting at me that I was a “cunt” his face twisted with hate. I was just cycling along minding my own busjness in my twenties. Wife or partner just sitting there in passenger seat looking down. I think the women are condoning the behaviour by being with the person at all and not speaking up. Afraid i judge them not feel sorry for them.

I have to say part of me does agree a bit, I've been called many by angry men whilst women sit next to them staring straight ahead

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 17:20

I work with angry men so I'm fairly used to them with violence added in. Sadly

Just really strikes me when it's a female

Choochoo21 · 02/06/2024 17:18

Misery loves company and some people aren’t happy unless you are as miserable as they are.

I do feel sorry for the partners but they can leave so I don’t have massive amounts of sympathy.

Boomer55 · 02/06/2024 16:54

I feel sorry for those going through life, angry and stressed, male or female. It must be a miserable way to live.

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 16:47

Similiar happened today at the cafe in our local country park

Woman furious and shouting because of an issue with a toasted sandwich, waving her hands around, demanding this that and the other

Felt for her family who looked very embarrassed but tried to pretend it was not happening. Just no need

MrRydersParlourGame · 02/06/2024 16:42

kitteninabasket · 02/06/2024 12:44

Good for you. I hope your doors were locked though! My awful ex gesticulated and swore at a female driver then sped past her while I was in the car. I was so embarrassed. We came to a red light and she pulled up alongside. She gestured for him to wind down his window and then said, ever so politely and with a smile, ‘have I done something wrong?’ My ex was lost for words. She asked again and said, ‘you seemed really angry so I’m wondering what I’ve done wrong’. He couldn’t answer her and drove home stunned. He wasn’t used to people challenging him, especially women.

Bloody well done that woman!

LlynTegid · 02/06/2024 16:13

BESTAUNTB · 02/06/2024 16:10

Yeah the wives are often cowed. No way out maybe.

If I knew a woman like this (I appreciate the person in the Nero was a stranger to the OP) I’d encourage them to call Women’s Aid and offer resources for an escape if I could.

If you had any clue as to where they lived, I'd suggest calling Women's Aid or the police.

User1979289 · 02/06/2024 16:13

I had a customer go off at me a few weeks ago - his wife was very apologetic. I said "Oh don't you apologise, if he treated me like that having met me 5 minutes ago I am sure you deal with a lot worse. I don't know how you put up with it" and she started crying! I felt terrible but it is true - shame on him - what a bully.

BESTAUNTB · 02/06/2024 16:10

Yeah the wives are often cowed. No way out maybe.

If I knew a woman like this (I appreciate the person in the Nero was a stranger to the OP) I’d encourage them to call Women’s Aid and offer resources for an escape if I could.

duchessofsilk · 02/06/2024 16:08

So no, it isn't really miserable for them because they don't see it as a problem with themselves. The anger gets externalised and is viewed as a problem with other people

This is true, but even then, feeling like a permanent victim of everyone and the world at large cant be very pleasant. You must feel permanently paranoid and on edge