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To ask DD to make it up with her dad

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CreativeDaisy · 01/06/2024 23:22

Feeling very sad about this situation in my family and hoping for some advice.

My adult daughter recently visited to help me and DH (her dad) babysit our grandson (her nephew) for the weekend to give his parents a break. Because she lives several hours away, DD came up a few days beforehand to spend some more time with us whilst remote working.

On the day my grandson was due to arrive, DD was on a work call when a man arrived to connect up our smart meter. We'd forgotten he was coming so didn't have a chance to warn DD that the power/internet would need to go off for a few minutes. My husband tried several times to get DD's attention to let her know about the power outage, but she carried on with her meeting, avoided eye contact and even gestured at him to stop talking which he thought was very rude. When she finished her call 5-10 minutes later, she went to speak to DH and I heard them having a huge, shouting row before DH came storming upstairs (I don't know who started shouting first).

I gave it a while for DD to calm down before going downstairs, only to find her desperately upset with her bags packed by the front door preparing to leave. She told me DH had got in her face shouting about how her work wasn't life-or-death and then he grabbed her and pushed her out of his way. I asked her to stay as she was too upset to drive safely, and she said she really wanted to see her nephew but she would only stay if DH apologised unreservedly.

Ultimately he did apologise for grabbing/pushing her and she said she forgave him. There were hugs and then little grandson arrived so big distractions. I thought we were all OK, but then DD cut her weekend short and went home the next day. Since then she's been polite and answered messages but she's still distant and isn't really initiating contact any more.

I've mostly been staying out of it, but lately I've been considering speaking to DD more directly and trying to encourage her to move on from this incident. I know it was upsetting but she loves her dad, he is sorry and he would do anything for her. He's been so kind helping her move house this year and supporting her through her recent divorce, I would hope that would count for something. I also think she should apologise about being rude to DH when he was trying to communicate with her on the call. However, when I said this in passing to a friend she looked at me like I had two heads and said I was 'condoning violence' which I absolutely am not! DH is not remotely violent, he just lost his temper once, and he has apologised.

So, am I being unreasonable? I just want things to go back to how they were before, and I think DH has done all he can to fix things. I am willing to be told I am wrong if it can help.

OP posts:
fieldsofbutterflies · 02/06/2024 07:48

He was trying to warn her that the call was about to be cut off. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that. It was actively considerate so that she could warn the other participants.

So why didn't he write her a note on a piece of paper instead of constantly trying to talk to her when she'd made it crystal clear she was working and trying to concentrate?

Venturini · 02/06/2024 07:46

You need to leave her alone and let this play out between the two of them. If my dad ever pushed and shoved me out of the way I would be incredibly shocked and upset as well. You can’t fix this so don’t try to mediate or build bridges on your husbands behalf as it won’t make any difference and could actually make things worse. Does he have a temper generally? Sounds pretty unpleasant tbh.

saraclara · 02/06/2024 07:45

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 01:53

I also find the whole thing of him thinking it’s acceptable to interrupt her work call to be really dismissive of the importance of her job (I wonder if he’d have done it to a man) and even more concerning his irrational fury at the belief a woman was rude to him.

He was trying to warn her that the call was about to be cut off. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that. It was actively considerate so that she could warn the other participants.

I don't know why people keep seeing this as a hostile act

ClonedSquare · 02/06/2024 07:41

So her meeting might have been disturbed, so he decided to DEFINITELY disturb her to tell her that? That's terrible logic even without any of the other things.

From your daughter's perspective, she was doing you a favour (helping with the nephew) and you both made a mistake which could have caused her trouble at work (forgetting about the power thing). It would be fair enough if she was annoyed just about that, tbh. Then her father came and actively disturbed her work rather than let her know via text or a note slipped in front of her. Another thing she could be reasonably annoyed about.

But then he has the audacity to shout in her face and physically manhandle her because he thought SHE was the rude one? And you both expect an apology from her?

Jesus OP, get some perspective. Your daughter has done nothing wrong at all.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 02/06/2024 07:39

If my dad did that to me, I'd have reported him to the police. Your husband is very lucky your daughter hasn't done that.

I think you should show your husband this thread, OP.

Maray1967 · 02/06/2024 07:37

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 01:53

I also find the whole thing of him thinking it’s acceptable to interrupt her work call to be really dismissive of the importance of her job (I wonder if he’d have done it to a man) and even more concerning his irrational fury at the belief a woman was rude to him.

This. He should have written a note and quietly put it on the table/desk and left as soon as he realised she was on a call. He should not have been trying to get her attention.

She needs time and your DH needs to continue to apologise and you need to accept that this will take some time - you should not be trying to persuade her to forget about it.

AGlinnerOfHope · 02/06/2024 07:37

I would say that he has a track record of treating her like a child-
interrupting her meeting/work, she tuned him out rather than assuming he'd wouldn't do it unless essential.
Physically moving her out of his way.

It's possible that if he recognises why he thought it was ok to behave as he did, so he can explain to her that he understands now what he did wrong, she may be able to move on.

Remember that AS AN ADULT with a life separate from yours, she has experiences you don't know about that could affect whether she's able to forgive this.

Arconialiving · 02/06/2024 07:32

sprigatito · 02/06/2024 00:54

I know you just want your family back in harmony again, and none of this is in any way your fault, but you need to accept that this is a lot more serious than you seem to realise. He assaulted her. That is not something that should ever happen, so however many times that you plead that it only happened once, it's still appalling. I have a lot of sympathy for you, you didn't cause this and having a rift in the family is so painful - but you can't expect your daughter to move past this for the sake of your feelings. She needs you to support her and stand up for her, not guilt-trip her into papering over what has happened.

Your DH should be deeply ashamed of himself. Not only was it incredibly rude to interrupt her work call without warning, but he physically dominated her and assaulted her. I think you need to prepare yourself for this not blowing over.

This!

DirtyCheeseBurger · 02/06/2024 07:29

I feel sorry for your dd. Firstly she drives miles to help look after a nephew, then she's assaulted by her father. Then her mother wants HER to apologise.
No wonder she's trying to keep some distance.

sandgrown · 02/06/2024 07:16

@Hoardasurass your reply is totally over the top . OP’s husband tried to alert his daughter to the fact her meeting could be interrupted by a power cut . She ignored him as she was focussed on her work . A row started and DD refused to let him
leave and diffuse the situation so he physically moved her to one side . Probably not acceptable but at no time does it mention he has form for this and they previously had a good relationship. OP only they can mend this so I would stay out of it and bide your time

NicoleSkidman · 02/06/2024 07:10

It sounds like your DH doesn’t understand that virtual meetings are as important as in-person meetings. If she was sat around a table with colleagues or stakeholders in a room in your house he wouldn’t have gone in to tell her that the electricity was going off. I occasionally work from my parents house and there’s no way they would interrupt a work meeting by gesticulating at me. If it was really important they would write me a note.

And yes, YABU to expect your daughter to apologise to a man who physically assaulted her. Your DH has a lot of grovelling to do. He should be getting in the car and going to see her.

Meadowfinch · 02/06/2024 07:04

OP, I think your issue (and your dh's) is that you still see your dd as a little girl who has to do as her parents say, and whose daily activities are less important because she's just a child.

She's not, she's a grown adult. She's divorced which presumably means she has only one income from a job that is very important to her. And having been through a divorce, she has first hand and recent experience of handling conflict with a male.

Then your dh interrupted her mid-work call, despite her making it clear she couldn't talk, and then he shouted at her, grabbed her and pushed her.

Think about it !

Marblessolveeverything · 02/06/2024 06:55

The family member who put their hands on me over thirty years ago hasn't seen me since and never will. There is never an excuse.

fieldsofbutterflies · 02/06/2024 06:44

There's a really weird dynamic going on here.

You think it should "count for something" that your husband acted like a normal, loving parent and helped his daughter with her house move.

You had to tell him to apologise for grabbing and shoving her.

You felt it appropriate to beg your DD to stay in the same house as the man who physically assaulted her and had to be told to apologise like a three year old.

And now you want your DD to apologise for the whole thing when she's the only person who has done nothing wrong?

Is DH her biological further? Is he controlling or abusive in other ways?

heretodestroyyou · 02/06/2024 06:33

What's he doing to repair the relationship? It's not for you to smooth things over when your daughter is upset about what happened. He should be doing everything he can to resolve this.

Other posters are right about not expecting your daughter to accept shitty behaviour from any man.

He was a dick from the start, he was distracting her during a meeting so of course she waved him away. She can't interrupt a meeting to speak to her dad ffs. Sounds like he needs to grow up.

MariaVT65 · 02/06/2024 05:13

Op what planet are you on?

I wouldn’t be talking to you either with your attitude.

DD should not be apologising for anything. Do you not understand the concept of not being disturbed during a work call? Especially if she was on camera, she could have been pulled up if it looked like she was talking to someone else rather than giving her full attention. She was there to help you out and shouldn’t expect to be disrupted.

Your DH was WAY out of line. Really really concerning he resorted to grabbing her because it’s unprofessional to have disruptions during a work call. This is what you should be focusing on - encouraging your DH to look into therapy or anger management.

Apologising after doing something like that doesn’t cut it, sorry. Your attitude is a disgrace.

WalkingaroundJardine · 02/06/2024 04:49

I would leave it alone to be honest. It sounds like space is needed and your daughter is deeply affected by the manhandling. I don’t think the daughter is being dramatic at all, as implied by other posters. Many workplaces frown on familial interruptions and she was most like trying to be professional.

pikkumyy77 · 02/06/2024 04:36

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YouZirName · 02/06/2024 03:28

Fizzadora · 01/06/2024 23:34

Bloody hell what drama. Your DD needs to grow up.

Agreed, she need to grow up.

Ponderingwindow · 02/06/2024 03:25

If your daughter was sitting in a conference room in an office building, would your husband just walk in and expect to talk to her? That is what he did. That is what wfh entails. If she is in a meeting, she essentially in a virtual conference room and he waltzed right in like her job didn’t matter at all.

my child knows not to enter the room if I am on a call or to interrupt me politely if it is an actual emergency.

then he laid hands on her when they got into an argument afterwards.

If apologies are on order, they don’t need to come from your daughter.

if He can’t make a sincere apology, then the least he can do is give her space.

unsync · 02/06/2024 03:17

Why do you feel it is your responsibility to make this better? Is that your role in your family dynamic? Does your husband still think of his adult daughter as a child? It can be difficult sometimes for parents to put their adult children on an equal footing and accept they are people in their own right.

I would also be concerned about your daughter. Did anything happen in her marriage/divorce such that she may have found her father's behaviour triggering (being asked to move out of the way and not doing so, and his physical response)?

Graciiee · 02/06/2024 02:49

They've both been dickheads. She was rude in the first place and making drama out of nothing. As you didn't witness the rest of it it's hard to say, whether she was being the bigger dickhead and not moving and if he's just pushed past, or if he's actually laid hands on her and pushed her. There's no excuse. They need to sort this, not you.

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 01:53

I also find the whole thing of him thinking it’s acceptable to interrupt her work call to be really dismissive of the importance of her job (I wonder if he’d have done it to a man) and even more concerning his irrational fury at the belief a woman was rude to him.

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 01:51

He's been so kind helping her move house this year and supporting her through her recent divorce

Sorry but you don’t get cookies for doing normal basic parenting. You certainly don’t get the right to be violent just because you were nice once.

YaMuvva · 02/06/2024 01:49

I say: good on your DD for asserting her boundaries.

Your DH wouldn’t go in her workplace and start waving about at her so he shouldn’t have rudely done it when she was WFH.

He grabbed and shouted at his own actual daughter and you’re putting the onus on her to make amends?! I’m now wondering what life was like for her growing up with an aggressive father and a fence sitting mother TBH. Do yourself and your DD a favour - be on her side with this.

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