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How many non verbal children did you know growing up? How many do you know now?

217 replies

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 01/06/2024 22:53

Not a goady thread and I wont be engaging with posters who want to speculate on the causes by starting debates about parenting and screen time.

But in the absence of any proper data, I’m interested to know whether others think there has been a rise in non verbal children (age 3 and over). I didn’t know any growing up, and now I know 3. So it seems to me there has been a rise but it may just be the area I live in.

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DustyLee123 · 02/06/2024 06:48

None and none. But I do see some due to working with children, and I’m always surprised by how many of these ‘non verbal’ children do actually speak to me.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 02/06/2024 06:45

I don’t know, I’d have to say none and two.

We had a SEN block in school so didn’t come into contact with children with additional needs.

Latenightreader · 02/06/2024 06:40

At primary school age in the 1980s I knew a few children with learning difficulties a couple of whom were non verbal (siblings of school friends). I also knew a fair number of adults who primarily communicated through makaton via my mother’s work. Today I know of three I think, and a school friend of my daughter was very delayed with his speech but is catching up now.

Sunnysummer24 · 02/06/2024 06:27

1 now 0

Nottherealslimshady · 02/06/2024 06:26

I was non verbal. I know no non verbal kids now.

ClonedSquare · 02/06/2024 06:25

I didn't know any growing up. But working as a teacher, I've met a few. It has absolutely zero to do with "parenting and screen time", so not sure why you even mentioned it at all.

glittereyelash · 02/06/2024 05:53

7 then and 3 now.

firef1y · 02/06/2024 05:47

I didn't know any, not because they didn't exist, but because they would have been in special school (no SEN in mainstream back then) or institutionised.

Susah · 02/06/2024 05:46

I was thinking similar the other day.

Growing up in a school where I was in a large class of 40 and often put with the class above of 30+ I suspect 1 showed ADHD signs none were NV.

I now know 3 nv kids personally and 2 in a primary school.
Several have adhd/ asd (one of these is one of my dc).

I never gave and still don't give dc much screen time.

NineChickennuggets · 02/06/2024 05:45

Your social circle would have been much smaller when you were growing up.

BarHumbugs · 02/06/2024 05:39

2 growing up, a family member and a little boy I used to volunteer with and none now.

Rycbar · 02/06/2024 05:05

I knew one growing up.
I’m a teacher and I have one in my class now although he will go to special school when he gets all the paperwork in place!

Equivo · 02/06/2024 03:28

None and none.

The number you know is likely largely a feature of your circle. Gowing up all the children I knew were either my classmates at (mainstream/ academically selective) school, peers at extracurricular clubs or the siblings of my close friends, which is going to include far fewer children who couldn't attend mainstream school than an average cross-section of society.

As an adult my circle is much wider and the children I 'know' (some I only know of from their parents rather than having actually met them) include the children of the wide range of adults I know - so there's less selective pressure on the characteristics of the children themselves. (So whilst I can't think of any non- verbal children I know, I do know more children with a wider range of conditions than I knew I growing up).

There's also probably a clustering effect: if you know one, you're more likely to know more than one, due to a number of reasons - genetics, some causes of non-verbalism may have genetic components, or the one child you know attends services for children with similar needs thus your extended network immediately includes a number of children with similar needs or you know the children because you yourself are a part of providing/access services for children with additional needs. Factors like location will also feature probably - if there are good specialist services locally it may attract families to the area, and in general you may get more children with severe needs in less wealthy areas (due to the impact the care needs of the child have on ability of parents to continue/progress in paid employment).

SillyLemonZebra · 02/06/2024 03:17

sweetkitty · 01/06/2024 22:57

I knew none growing up but then I was on a mainstream school not looking for them. Now I am an ASN teacher working with primarily non-verbal children so personally know a lot.

What I will say is non-verbal does not mean non-thinking, a lot of non-verbal children are clever little people, once you tap into their way of communicating and build a bond with them it’s amazing what they know and understand.

You are a beautiful human being and this makes me so happy for the children you teach. The world needs more of you. A rare gem. ♥️

PitterPatter3 · 02/06/2024 03:16

Zero and zero from me too.

DramaAlpaca · 02/06/2024 03:16

None that I remember growing up in the 60s/70s and none now.

elliejjtiny · 02/06/2024 02:35

1 and 3. That doesn't include my ds2 who can talk to his friends like any other teenager, talks to me in one word answers and doesn't talk to people he doesn't know at all. The social worker said he was "unable to communicate his needs".

audiehd · 02/06/2024 02:16

One when I was growing up, and none now

Clawedino · 02/06/2024 02:02

None and none. Although apparently DH was a late talker (then diagnosed ASD at 4). Our 2 year old has amazing speech, very talkative and he gets lots of screen time at home.

YankSplaining · 02/06/2024 01:57

Another down for none and none.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/06/2024 01:54

Now? None. However, I worked with one when I was a secondary school teacher (in a mainstream school). The parent insisted on placing the child in mainstream, but later changed their mind.

When I was a child - one. An older autistic girl. (I was a child in the 1960s.)

BruFord · 02/06/2024 01:54

I can’t think of anyone growing up. Now I know one.

PeloMom · 02/06/2024 01:50

1 when I was growing up- the patents were deaf and mute and the child as well so I guess was genetic. I know 2 now due to ASD.

coxesorangepippin · 02/06/2024 01:50

None and none

But I live a mainstream life i
e. Not much exposure to those who may be non verbal

Jellybeanz456 · 02/06/2024 01:49

20 years ago I worked in an afterschool child care setting for ages 4+ I was there 5 years and seen hundreds off children come through the doors there wasn't any non verbal children over the time I was there also none diagnosed asd there was a total off 2 that I remember diagnosed with adhd and very few children had alligies. I left that line off work and returned to child care 3 years ago and was surprised at how many non verbal/asd/adhd/alligies children there is now coming through our doors. Why the huge increase I don't know my own dd has asd and she certainly doesn't have screen time 247.