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WWYD- 2 very different children

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Member786488 · 01/06/2024 21:42

One very academic, studying at Cambridge, slightly autistic to the point where they struggle to find work in the holidays and rely on us financially despite our attempts to get them to get a job and fund holidays. Live on student loans the rest of the year.

the other is leaving school after A levels and will be working in a cafe or as a housemaid to make money. no desire whatsoever to go to uni. They have had a part time job since they were 12. Will live at home because they realise how expensive moving out and living independently can be.

the second child resents the financial support they see their sibling getting but don’t necessarily understand how difficult it it for their sibling to just ‘get a job.’

if we don’t support the older child they don’t eat.

any ideas?

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PricklyPearNoThornsPlease · 01/06/2024 22:08

If your uni child is living on student loans in term time what financial support are you actually giving them? If it’s basically a room in your house / not charging them for bills, food etc, couldn’t you do the same for the younger (while encouraging / expecting them to save?)

comedycentral · 01/06/2024 22:07

The one at university will need to get a job at some point though? How are they planning for that? You can't support them forever.

saraclara · 01/06/2024 22:07

Does the older one live at home during the holidays? And given that she's not been affected enough to be diagnosed, is she really absolutely incapable of doing a simple student type job in the holidays?

It might be that the younger one things you're underestimating her sibling?

saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/06/2024 22:07

Member786488 · 01/06/2024 22:01

@Mostunexpected thats what prompted this post actually. I saw something about a young person living at home asked for contributions towards the family income. In my circumstances I think this would be impossible because of the financial support we give their sibling.

to add for context, we would save anything they gave us to return at some point, we just want to instill the fact that when one leaves education and earns, they pay their way.

Oh yeah that won’t go well… your kid2 will see this as pass through supporting kid1.

I think maybe a different tack than the one usually taken. A savings account in your name that kid2 can see bank statements on a regular basis that shows their contribution growing… and mor importantly not going as a pass through to kid1.

VeniceVentura · 01/06/2024 22:06

Crazycatlady79 · 01/06/2024 21:48

You can't be 'slightly' Autistic. You either are or you are not.

Correct. It's binary, just like you can't be slightly pregnant!

letsgoglamping · 01/06/2024 22:06

It isn’t about wanting to swap lives with the sibling. It’s more about a feeling that your own wants, needs and desires always come second to someone else’s because you’re the lucky one. While that might be true in a broad sense it still stings. That isn’t to say every sibling of a child with a disability will feel that way but they aren’t uncommon feelings either.

Mangoooo · 01/06/2024 22:05

It's not fair to financially support one child and not the other. You sound like my PIL who financially supported (significantly) their high functioning autistic son at university but not my DP who left home in his teens and has always worked.

saraclara · 01/06/2024 22:04

I have a similar situation but my high flier is also excellent at money mangement and has a job. The social one is totally disorganised but manages to scrape through

First also has high anxiety, perfectionist tendencies and needs lots of reassurance and time from us. Second needs guidance, and bailing out.

Other than the bailing out bit, do we have the same children?

cheddercherry · 01/06/2024 22:03

It sounds really mixed that they are described as “slightly autistic” but then you go onto say they won’t eat without your financial aid? If they can’t get a job in holidays what’s the plan for after uni, will they never work/ live fully independently? It sounds much more complex than the OP and I agree with other posters that it sounds like you do seem to favour the uni one over the younger just in terms of the language used to describe both. It may be subconscious but clearly the younger sibling feels hard done by, whether that’s true or not. Really I wouldn’t give to one without doing the same for the other when it comes to finances regardless of their ND, unless one cannot at all live independently in which case it’s surely clear why they’d need additional support and you’d assume the younger child would understand?

LilacK · 01/06/2024 22:02

Imho, you've got to financially support them both the same. The one with the job currently will therefore be better off, currently. But the one at uni may well be better off in the long run. So you really must support both the same so that they stand a chance of having a good relationship with each other in the future, and after you are gone.

Littlebluebird123 · 01/06/2024 22:02

Mostunexpected · 01/06/2024 21:56

Will the younger one be paying to live at home once they start working?

I was going to ask this. If not, then financially they are both benefitting but just in different ways.

I have a similar situation but my high flier is also excellent at money mangement and has a job. The social one is totally disorganised but manages to scrape through. Lives at home as they don't make enough to move out.

First also has high anxiety, perfectionist tendencies and needs lots of reassurance and time from us. Second needs guidance, and bailing out.

I've always explained to both that we give them what they need so it's fair but not always equal.

saraclara · 01/06/2024 22:02

Sure you’ll have to work hard and we’re not going to help

Except that's not remotely what OP has said

Enough098 · 01/06/2024 22:02

Your second child may well think that you favour your oldest as he is so academic, and that feeds resentment, which is focused on ypur financial support of your eldest. Is tutoring a possibility? Can be online or in person.

Do you think your second is not going onto futher education because she (?) thinks she won't be able to do as well as her brother? With A levels she could get a better paid job than working in a cafe. Can you talk to her about what she'd really like to do - there are so many options, from further/higher education, appretenships to travelling.

Working in a cafe as a backpacker is more fun in Sydney, living in a backpackers hostel, than doing it in your home town, while living at home, while your friends are off at college or starting careers.

Member786488 · 01/06/2024 22:01

@Mostunexpected thats what prompted this post actually. I saw something about a young person living at home asked for contributions towards the family income. In my circumstances I think this would be impossible because of the financial support we give their sibling.

to add for context, we would save anything they gave us to return at some point, we just want to instill the fact that when one leaves education and earns, they pay their way.

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saraclara · 01/06/2024 22:01

letsgoglamping · 01/06/2024 21:53

While I don’t entirely disagree with the sentiments here I do think approaching it from that angle is only going to deepen resentment.

Its hard, really hard, being the sibling of someone with no social skills, either because of autism or just because. What does tend to happen IME is a constant conflict between resentment and guilt. Your own social life and friendships are impeded by the sibling so you feel resentment but then also guilt because they are your brother/sister and you’re glad it’s them not you (and people will tell you this too.) It isn’t really an enviable position though.

OP can mention that and empathise with the younger one about that if it applies (in my DCs' case, it doesn't) within that conversation. But in this situation which is about a particular type of support, putting across that #2 would not want to swap lives with her sister, isn't out of place.

Littletreefrog · 01/06/2024 22:00

saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/06/2024 21:58

Oh dear I suspect that this would not go well.

“Oi…kid2 you’re super lucky to not have kid’s problems now go out there and earn you own damn way while I take care of your sibling. Sure you’ll have to work hard and we’re not going to help but hey at least you can make friends”

Kid2 has chosen to get a job after A levels. If they had chosen to go to University I suspect they would have been supported by their parents to a certain degree as they have persumably been supported through A levels. No one is sending anyone up chimneys or the modern equivalent

Littletreefrog · 01/06/2024 21:58

letsgoglamping · 01/06/2024 21:53

While I don’t entirely disagree with the sentiments here I do think approaching it from that angle is only going to deepen resentment.

Its hard, really hard, being the sibling of someone with no social skills, either because of autism or just because. What does tend to happen IME is a constant conflict between resentment and guilt. Your own social life and friendships are impeded by the sibling so you feel resentment but then also guilt because they are your brother/sister and you’re glad it’s them not you (and people will tell you this too.) It isn’t really an enviable position though.

I can see where you are coming from but as a NT sibling of a brother with Autism this is still the angle I would take.

Its not as if the 2nd child has been forced to get a job to support thrmselves/contribute to the family. They have persumably been supported through A levels and has a job since 12 because they wanted to.

My sibling has received more support than myself from my parents both financially and practically because he has needed it and I havent resented any of it.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 01/06/2024 21:58

Littletreefrog · 01/06/2024 21:47

I would tell the one getting a job after A levels they are lucky to have the social skills/mental resilience that allows them to navigate life easily and when they have children of their own they can make decisions about how to best support them just as you are doing with your children.

Oh dear I suspect that this would not go well.

“Oi…kid2 you’re super lucky to not have kid’s problems now go out there and earn you own damn way while I take care of your sibling. Sure you’ll have to work hard and we’re not going to help but hey at least you can make friends”

NoddyfromToytown2024 · 01/06/2024 21:57

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Mostunexpected · 01/06/2024 21:56

Will the younger one be paying to live at home once they start working?

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 01/06/2024 21:55

When you say they 'don't eat' do you mean literally starving themselves unless you are there to feed them, or in the proverbial sense of not having income? Because if its the first scenario that's a much more profound autism than your post implies and suggests someone incapable of independent living.

saraclara · 01/06/2024 21:55

Littletreefrog · 01/06/2024 21:47

I would tell the one getting a job after A levels they are lucky to have the social skills/mental resilience that allows them to navigate life easily and when they have children of their own they can make decisions about how to best support them just as you are doing with your children.

That.

I have one 'slightly autistic' academic, anxious and perfectionist child, and one super chilled and social child. The former would give everything to be able to navigate the social world like her sibling.

Member786488 · 01/06/2024 21:53

Apologies @Crazycatlady79 your knowledge of this is greater than mine. I would re-phrase as high functioning, not diagnosed but tick every box on every test they’ve ever done

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letsgoglamping · 01/06/2024 21:53

Littletreefrog · 01/06/2024 21:47

I would tell the one getting a job after A levels they are lucky to have the social skills/mental resilience that allows them to navigate life easily and when they have children of their own they can make decisions about how to best support them just as you are doing with your children.

While I don’t entirely disagree with the sentiments here I do think approaching it from that angle is only going to deepen resentment.

Its hard, really hard, being the sibling of someone with no social skills, either because of autism or just because. What does tend to happen IME is a constant conflict between resentment and guilt. Your own social life and friendships are impeded by the sibling so you feel resentment but then also guilt because they are your brother/sister and you’re glad it’s them not you (and people will tell you this too.) It isn’t really an enviable position though.

SilentSilhouette · 01/06/2024 21:53

As you should treat children fairly, then any financial support you give the older one you should also be putting aside for the younger one when they need it e.g. a house deposit, car deposit.

If you cannot afford to put aside an equal amount then I suggest you lower the amount you are giving the eldest and help them to find a job that they can manage.