Orange marches belfast

-There might be drinking, esp later, but the 12tjbis very much a "March to a field with marquees and have tea and sandwiches" affair.

I think it used to be like this but even the OO has admitted it's ant social behaviour and is trying to limit drinking at it. And shorten the route.

There are actually a few Irish nationalist organisations who march too; the main one I can think of being the Ancient Order of the Hibernians. They used to March in my hometown (Derry/Londonderry), not sure if they still do.

Not on the scale of the 12th of July though.

(And things could get a bit sectarian - in the other direction - at that too).

USA is so massively pro- Irish it’s hard to fathom a march such as that being held there

True, but due to "Irish" and Scottish protestant/Orange order member etc. folks emigrating to Canada and America, there are "orders" there. There are big marching band traditions there too.

As a child in the west coast of Scotland I always thought the parades would have floats and horses and things and used to get upset when I wasn't allowed to go and see 😅

Surely not all of them mirror the one from today?

Sorry I forgot to answer this.

These are local bands ..... Possibly a bit rough, practising informally.n

What they get out, marching & playing behind the Orange Order members (who are usually middle aged) and other similar organisations, it tends to be more formal and respectable. There might be drinking, esp later, but the 12tjbis very much a "March to a field with marquees and have tea and sandwiches" affair.

I'm not totally sure what you guys had near you today, but generally this is the time of year when the bands come out of the halls they've been practising in all winter, and start marching - in the better weather - to practice for the 12th July parade.

You can't obviously practice marching/playing in a marching band very well in a hall so at some point they have to do practice marches around the streets.

It's pretty much all geared towards the 12th. Although there is another parade around the Apprentice Boys of Derry/Londonderry,, can't remember when that is. Maybe August. It's smaller though

It's not a good look, for sure, marching around with whiny pipes and hate songs.

Legislating around it would cause problems though, especially now that Westminster seems to have forgotten that it was ever that arsed about the six counties being part of the UK.

Northern Ireland has people who identify as Northern Irish/British and people who identify as Irish.

So it's not entirely "Irish" people who "have to put up with it".

They originated in Scotland, they were moved over to Northern Ireland during the plantation , they tried several plantations in the south but they never took hold like they did in the north

No it isn’t! I’m not agreeing with it!! I was replying to OP who said she’d never heard of anyone enjoying it or wanting to attend them…

surely there is a better way of celebrating/ promoting culture than that?

There are other "cultural" things like museums etc.

But the marches are traditional; I suppose they are derived from the militias etc. that organised themselves and trained (and were accompanied by bands) and were used in the historic conflicts.

They truly are idiots 🤣 I'll never forget the year they were given permission to march in Dublin and it was carnage . They never ever got permission again, they still try every so often though.

They are vicious, bigoted scumbags whose dearest wish is to reignite the Troubles. They should have been banned years ago.

Wtf is behind the chanting of hateful lyrics etc. no need and not what it supposed be about from what I know of it

No, it's not. But wankers tend to infiltrate all sorts of organisations, and drag the time down.

As I was reading this one came down our street in Fife. March seemed to be from Lanarkshire

I’ve yet to hear one person say they enjoy attending them so how do they keep going?

Thousands and thousands of people attend the parades (12th July and there are a couple of others). They are big events.

It's also "exported" to Scotland, Canada and the US. They have parades there.

That's not a good thing! I'm sure certain fascists put on a dandy marching band, but it didn't make their toxic ideology acceptable, just palatable to the masses.

Orange marches and lodges should be banned. They're clearly hate crimes, they wouldn't be tolerated towards anti Jewish or Muslim or buddist so why should they be allowed for any Catholic.

I don't agree with them but the alternative is banning them and then the riots start. To be fair, it's a nice day over and the sun's out so they may riot yet. Welcome to marching season @Pippin24

Possibly it would be allowed. There's a bunch of racists shouting much the same in London.

It's disgraceful. Outright sectarianism. Culture my arse. Outrageous that Irish people have to put up with that shite.

@Boomer55
It all sounds a bit silly and outdated, but I guess it’s tradition
promoting hatred and sectarianism isn't silly, imagine a walk singing about killing muslims, would that be allowed or silly??

Well, lots of people were enjoying the one near me today! Dads with young kids on their shoulders etc….street was lined with spectators! They’re will be a ‘walk’ in Glasgow in a few weeks (used to be the Saturday nearest the 12th) and you won’t get moving for people watching it!