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Instrumental teacher refusing to teach my child

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MairSS · 01/06/2024 14:30

I just cannot believe the email I’ve just received from my child’s instrumental teacher!
DS has been receiving instrumental lessons at school for a couple of terms. The music teacher is freelance and therefore parents pay fees directly to her.
We pay up front each half term. She invoices us. I had overpaid by one lesson last time, and she had not realised this. I therefore sent her a message telling her to check her account. She immediately did and apologised saying she had not realised and adjusted the invoice accordingly. I wrote another message saying that in fact I always pay on time and didn’t appreciate getting messages saying I hadn’t paid when I had.
She then said on reflection it may be better if I found an alternative teacher as she doesn’t tolerate rudeness and reattached her terms and conditions!
surely she can’t do this? How unprofessional! I’ll be making an appointment to see the headteacher on Monday!

OP posts:
KarmenPQZ · 02/06/2024 17:44

It also sounds like it was your mistake in the first place paying the wrong amount last term. Then expected the teacher to spend time reconciliating her accounts when I’m sure she’d have rather been teaching. If you thought you were ‘doing her a favour’ by choosing a random amount to pay her and expecting her to keep track of all the crazy parents who Think they know better than just pay the right amount you were very wrong. The. You doubled down and didn’t apologise.

you handled it really poorly and you child will now suffer.

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 02/06/2024 17:34

Wow.

My DDs lessons were twice the price.
What’s sad is that (often) people with the most money are the ones least likely to spend it or treat people with respect. Op seems to be tight as a gnat’s chuff and no mistake. Please treat people better @MairSS . Seriously. It’s just shameful to not apologise. I’m embarrassed for you.

Bigcat25 · 02/06/2024 17:22

Being paid early is not helping her unless she is literally starving.

wizarddry · 02/06/2024 17:18

MairSS · 01/06/2024 14:56

Ok I was rude. I’m not accepting this is over though. I won’t give her my bank details and so she can’t refund me. I will send DS in on Tuesday with his violin for his lesson

And she'll go thanks for bringing the violin back bye now.

Why would you put your child in that position?

Sirzy · 02/06/2024 17:11

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

so you started all this fuss over £7 🙄

Ginkypig · 02/06/2024 17:09

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

Then why are being such an arrogant rude person then?

you shot yourself in the foot here and you know it but rather than swallow your pride for the sake of your child you are acting like a complete ….

she will probably do the lesson then take back the violin on Tuesday because she knows fine you’re going to be as disrespectful difficult and manipulative as you can and if she does that then you have nothing to hold over her.

OR YOU CAN

be genuinely apologetic while showing you take full responsibility for your own actions in this situation and for your behaviour then ask nicely if she wouldn’t mind drawing a line under this and you promise you won’t treat her with such contempt and disrespect again.

ManilowBarry · 02/06/2024 17:08

'I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!'

So why deliberately go out of your way to antagonise her?

You've whit yourself in the door and you appear utterly belligerent to the fact you have behaved badly.

If this is how you go through life then your child is either going too copy you and have a massive chip on their shoulder or will realise your behaviour is unacceptable and will distance themselves from you.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/06/2024 16:59

Just to add that my late husband and I attended group music lessons some years back: it was a council initiative - there were various instrumental groups of various levels.

One of the instruments taught was violin and the group lessons were very successful, judging from the end-of-year concert and ceilidh.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/06/2024 16:56

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

That's the right price for half-an-hour of a private lesson. A one-to-one lesson of any kind normally costs about £30 an hour.

HuongVuong3 · 02/06/2024 16:37

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/06/2024 16:34

but you said ' I thought it was also beneficial to the teacher as she would have had extra money in her account. '

a whole £7 yes seven pounds !!!

The OP really is lady bountiful, isn't she. Unfortunately for her the teacher isn't grovelling as expected!

SilkFloss · 02/06/2024 16:36

Hmm, so it's only now that you realise she's worthy of your time? Now you've realised she has control of something you want?

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/06/2024 16:34

but you said ' I thought it was also beneficial to the teacher as she would have had extra money in her account. '

a whole £7 yes seven pounds !!!

Demonhunter · 02/06/2024 16:32

Isn't it sad when rude and entitled parents ruin things for their kids! All the missed opportunities they have because of them. I really feel for OPs kids.

Confusednewmum1 · 02/06/2024 16:26

All this carry on you have started for £7 😂

Chanelbasketballandchain · 02/06/2024 16:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2024 14:16

I can't imagine why she has decided she doesn't want you as a client.

Puzzling isn't it.

I do feel sorry for teachers, who are not self-employed and don't have the luxury to chose the parents. Can you imagine.

PossumintheHouse · 02/06/2024 16:15

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

Your behaviour aside, is £7 for 20 minutes with multiple other beginner violinists really good value for money? Your son is going to sound like a strangled parrot for a decade at this rate. Surely you want better for little Tarquin?

Maray1967 · 02/06/2024 16:13

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

Well you should have thought carefully about how you communicate with her!!

Your second email was unpleasant. Do you seriously go around pointing out people’s errors and expecting them to continue to provide a service? She has the right to withdraw her services if a relationship has broken down.

HuongVuong3 · 02/06/2024 16:12

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

What a shame that you didn't treat the teacher with courtesy then, isn't it.

And seriously? That's the amount of money you've made all this unnecessary fuss about?

Glitterbiscuits · 02/06/2024 16:11

Then send the music teacher a grovelling apology for your rudeness

MairSS · 02/06/2024 16:09

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/06/2024 15:09

btw

does anyone know how much a shared violin lesson at school is ?

and does anyone know how much a private violin lesson is ?

I’m paying £7 per group lesson (20 minutes) and going rate for 1-1 private lessons in my area is £16 (30 minutes) so you can see why I want to keep lessons in school!

OP posts:
CountingCrones · 02/06/2024 15:54

@Clarinet1 - did you know Dame Fanny? She was the most terrifying woman I ever met. Four foot nothing of sheer intimidation and will. I felt about eight years old and in trouble any time I was in her presence.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/06/2024 15:09

btw

does anyone know how much a shared violin lesson at school is ?

and does anyone know how much a private violin lesson is ?

Scirocco · 02/06/2024 14:50

I don't think you quite understand.

The professional music teacher who has been teaching your child, is under no obligation to continue to teach them. She has terms and conditions for people who wish to pay for lessons. You broke those. So, she isn't going to continue teaching your child.

It doesn't matter what's convenient for you or your child at this point. What matters is that you broke the terms and conditions. This is your mess-up, not the teacher's.

If you really, really want your child to continue music lessons with this particular teacher, then you'd better get to work on drafting an apology. A proper one. It might not be enough at this point, but you won't know unless you try.

Otherwise, you'll just need to find a new teacher and a new violin if that one is on loan from her. And try to be nicer to the next one.

Greenlittecat · 02/06/2024 14:48

Aw you sound delightful. I can't possibly think why she might not want to have to deal with you again.

Aquamarine1029 · 02/06/2024 14:48

Lifestooshort71 · 02/06/2024 14:32

This is a bit mean. Yes, she has mishandled the situation badly but to label her the mum who'll blight her son's life is below the belt.

Sorry, it's not mean. It's the absolute truth. People with attitudes like the op's don't save that attitude just for music teachers. This behaviour translates into every relationship they have. If she doesn't do some massive self-reflection and take steps to not be so fucking ridiculous and entitled, her son will face consequences due to her actions.

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