To complain about “gender identity” question on a registration form

You can't do that on an online form that forces you to choose before continuing.

And I thought we were trying to save the planet. Who the fuck is wasting paper on stuff like this ?

I’ve crossed the questions out on any form where it’s been asked!

Symmetry / asymmetry/ non symmetry implies an understanding of what shape and pattern are. Without that understanding shapes have no relationship to each other.

Similarly unless you know if you are male or female biologically then you can have no understanding of what your gender is, and once you know if you are male or female then your “gender” becomes something you are just wearing as an extra layer. Which is fine, if that is what you want, but it doesn’t change your sex.

No it isn't. Gender identity is a separate concept from gender. Very few people believe in and have a conscious feeling of gender identity. It should not be forced on the majority who don't.

Make sure they know you are a man though. Otherwise you won't get an answer.

As someone who doesn't agree with the whole trans thing, I don't really see the issue with this particular question....

It's just asking whether you are trans or not. That's all.

If you're born female and are a woman your gender identity is female.

Nope. I'm an atheist. Id be fine with that

This. I can't eye-roll enough

You aren't complaining about anything that others haven't complained about many times before. Yanbu to complain about this silly question.
Hopefully all the madness will go the way of the dodo soon.

Yes me too

sexual orientation is a protected characteristic under the equality act so I would expect to be asked about it

gender and gender identity are not

Never?

I've been asked plenty of times, usually for including in anonymised equality statistics.

Never been asked my sexuality on any form ever.

Who I prefer to sleep with is irrelevant and no one's fucking business.

Fortunately, this appears to be well understood.

I think you've embarrassed yourself because like it's just a form. Just type yes and get on with your life.

So "agender" then. Without gender. Like asymmetrical= without symmetry.

Not all trans people want to negatively impact women**

How many do want to negatively impact women?!

Damn, wish I’d read this before I commented on the things I don’t care about thread.

I think I large part of the problem is that the loudest factions on both sides are trying to steamroller each other. There needs to be a mid ground. Not all trans people want to negatively impact women, they can live how they like and be acknowledged without doing any harm.

This puts it very well - this is a perfect analogy. No one would dream of asking about a religious belief in this way.

@Begaydocrime94 egaydocrime94

The queer and trans community is incredible, beautiful and resilient

Its a community that is so incredible, beautiful and resilient that many LGB people deny its existence and its so weak that it ostracises anyone that doesn't believe in its terms/beliefs.

I guess if you want to get nit picky then your sex is observed rather than assigned. I still believe gender is a social construct and people can live however they want personally

Not nit-picky just accurate, Accurate, clear language should be used rather than nonsense waffle brought about about by a forceful ideology.

Agree, gender is a social construct and yes people can live as they want as long as that does not negatively impact on others, not the case with Gender Ideology.

And your sex would exist whether anyone had observed it or not. This language contortions drive me mad. I always try to put somewhere that my sex is F, I dont believe in GI, my beliefs are protected by the Forstater judgement etc whatever there is room for! Well done op for making the point

Yanbu. The question is as offensive as if they were to give just the choices Christian Jewish or Muslim for religion without giving the choice to say no religion. And as irrational as asking you to declare the colour of your Aura. If you don't have a gender identity then it's impossible to a yes or no question about it.

Why is that better?

60 years ago you might have been asked your sex but not your sexuality, because back then homosexuality was considered taboo and was illegal. It’s hard to imagine that now.

Society changes in response to a deepening understanding of what it is to be human, but to have that understanding we need to ask these questions and people need to feel safe to answer truthfully.

There may well still be a debate to be had, but it’s regressive to just insist on applying a single and unnuanced view of gender and gender identity when the conversation has long since moved on.

I guess if you want to get nit picky then your sex is observed rather than assigned. I still believe gender is a social construct and people can live however they want personally.

I work for a charity and deal with applications for a discount card. This is a question on our applications too but it’s not mandatory to answer. OP, good for you to question this. When I asked why it was on our applications I was told it’s an equality thing, not sure what a discount card has to do with whether you were born the same gender as you now identify as? The EDI Officer was made redundant soon after, so I wonder if the question might be removed.