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To complain about “gender identity” question on a registration form

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Manhere2024 · 01/06/2024 09:36

Man here. I just tried to fill in a form sent out by a charity, but one of the questions was:

“Is your gender identity the same as the gender you were assigned at birth?”

I tried ignoring it, but it’s not possible to submit the form without answering this question.

So I emailed them saying that I don’t believe in gender identity theory, & it’s discriminatory for them not to give an option for those of us who are gender critical. I have asked if they can change the form, or handle my registration in another way.

I think they’ll be surprised, and perhaps I’ve embarrassed myself. But I won’t go along with something I consider to be harmful and wrong.

AIBU? What will likely happen next?

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VickyEadieofThigh · 01/06/2024 10:05

Rainbowshit · 01/06/2024 09:44

Good for you. The more people that push back on this quasi religious nonsense the better.

You could also raise gdpr with them. They shouldn't be collecting unnecessary data. Gender identity is not a protected characteristic. Sex is.

Indeed.

Elaan · 01/06/2024 10:04

I don't have a gender as I'm not religious. I always tick other and write an essay in gender ideology being misogynistic and based on social stereotypes. And the sex is real and binary.

NeedToKnow101 · 01/06/2024 10:03

We had this at a staff EDI survey at work. It was the first question. Loads of us couldn't fill it in because no option to say 'I don't have a gender identity.'

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 01/06/2024 10:01

Echobelly · 01/06/2024 09:55

Or you could just fill it in and get on with your life?

Or he could make a stand. Despotism thrives when people allow bollocks like this to pass unchallenged. I can't imagine why this company needs to know someone's gender identity. What about people who feel they have one but don't feel comfortable making it known how they feel? What about people who think there is no such thing? It's an unnecessary, intrusive question if you believe in GI. It's an unnecessary load of shite if you don't.

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Manhere2024 · 01/06/2024 09:59

LlynTegid · 01/06/2024 09:57

There should always be a prefer not to say option.

But I’m quite happy to say what I have to say, which is that gender identity goes against my sincerely held belief system.

“Prefer not to say” wouldn’t cover that.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 01/06/2024 09:58

I’d write my SEX (F) was observed at birth.

FOJN · 01/06/2024 09:58

I have no problem with an optional question about gender identity to accommodate those of the gender faith but I take serious issue with "gender assigned at birth". It's bullshit and needs calling out.

Graciiee · 01/06/2024 09:57

Rainbowshit · 01/06/2024 09:52

It's like asking which religion are you, Muslim or Christian and not giving an option not to answer.

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Wouldn't it be the same as saying is your regilion the same religion you've always followed? So if you didn't follow one, answering yes would still cover that?

LlynTegid · 01/06/2024 09:57

There should always be a prefer not to say option.

jeaux90 · 01/06/2024 09:56

@Echobelly some of us have a bit more personal integrity

Echobelly · 01/06/2024 09:55

Or you could just fill it in and get on with your life?

jeaux90 · 01/06/2024 09:55

Aussieland · 01/06/2024 09:40

So the answer for you is yes. Easy. I don’t see why it affects you in any way apart from ticking a box.

Because it's gaslighting.

Gender identity doesn't exist.

I refuse to play this stupid sexist, homophobic game.

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 01/06/2024 09:55

Good for you @Manhere2024 this crap needs to be called out every single time. What happens next is they ignore it until the tide turns and this embarrassing social contagion and trend goes the way of all stupid ideas. Then they’ll change it to something meaningful.

RhymesWithOrange · 01/06/2024 09:54

Cattyisbatty · 01/06/2024 09:49

Just tick yes - this would matter in a clinical setting.

Only for dangerous lunatics like Webberly.

Connected1 · 01/06/2024 09:53

It's such an unnecessarily confusing question too.
I've gotten used to seeing "other" added to the "male" or "female" question, and at least it's straightforward and I can tick female.
There must be loads people who get tripped up by this question, as they don't even know what gender identity means.

GabriellaMontez · 01/06/2024 09:52

Cattyisbatty · 01/06/2024 09:49

Just tick yes - this would matter in a clinical setting.

How would it matter? What is the clinical definition of gender identity?

wizarddry · 01/06/2024 09:52

Manhere2024 · 01/06/2024 09:42

I don’t have a gender identity. My sex was observed at birth.

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Then say no then

Rainbowshit · 01/06/2024 09:52

Aussieland · 01/06/2024 09:40

So the answer for you is yes. Easy. I don’t see why it affects you in any way apart from ticking a box.

It's like asking which religion are you, Muslim or Christian and not giving an option not to answer.

Rainbowshit · 01/06/2024 09:51

Cattyisbatty · 01/06/2024 09:49

Just tick yes - this would matter in a clinical setting.

Why? What relevance does it have to anything?

YourPithyLilacSheep · 01/06/2024 09:50

Good for you @Manhere2024 I don’t have a gender identity. Sex-based stereotypes (ie Gender) are oppressive.

Cattyisbatty · 01/06/2024 09:49

Just tick yes - this would matter in a clinical setting.

RhymesWithOrange · 01/06/2024 09:49

It's like asking a question about religion and not having a "no belief" option. People would complain about the only option being "heathen" or "prefer not to say".

AhBiscuits · 01/06/2024 09:48

I'm surprised there was no
'I prefer not to say' option.

CountingCrones · 01/06/2024 09:47

I don’t think they will be surprised, but I don’t think they’ll change anything either.

I don’t have a gender identity either. But when I don’t complete that section, my data is disregarded. So I have to answer and be counted incorrectly, or not be counted at all.

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