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To not want DD’s friend here all the time?

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Trainersbythetruckload · 01/06/2024 01:53

I can’t work out if I’m being a bitch or not.

DD is 20 and has ASD and other health issues, she does not work and gets UC and PIP. She pays me £100 a week towards rent, bills, food etc, but has around £1k per month to spend as she pleases.

She is a lovely girl and struggles with her mental health, she isn’t able to get out and do much, and is in her room a lot of the time. She doesn’t have many friends, but she has one very good friend who is nearing the end of the his college course and as such has been spending an increasing amount of time here. DD really enjoys having him here (he’s not a boyfriend, just a friend).

However, him being here costs me a bloody fortune! Money is very tight at the moment as I’m not able to work much due to my own health, and I swear DD’s friend has hollow legs. He has an amazing knack for turning up just as I’ve done a food shop, and he’s like a swarm of termites. Before I know it, the food shop which I’d planned on lasting a week is gone in 2/3 days.

On one hand DD loves having him here, he’s a nice lad and I think he’s pretty unhappy at home. But on the other hand I feel resentment at having to feed the bugger so much! He lives about an hour away by bus so when he appears he tends to stay for 5 days or so. He left 3 days ago after a 5 day stay and then reappeared today…just in time for yesterday’s food shop. The food shop I did yesterday was a bit of a skimpy one as I’m completely broke until next week, so I literally can’t afford to go shopping again if he eats all our food again, which he will.

AIBU? If I was rolling in cash this wouldn’t be an issue at all, but I’m really not.

OP posts:
Angrywife · 01/06/2024 16:06

Why on earth has a guest got free reign of your kitchen??

I'd sit them both down and explain that you don't have an issue with him staying but as he's effectively living there part time, you're going to need him to contribute toward the food bills and how does £75 a week cost.

He'll either pay up, stop coming, or stop eating!!

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 01/06/2024 16:04

I used to get the bus to school when I was 11 which was an hour each way , didn't mean I had to stay there 5 days!

Your daughter needs to contribute more when he stays.

Panpastels · 01/06/2024 16:01

Presumably she's been receiving all the cost of living payments too. Has she given any to you?
As an aside I am always amazed by how much income my daughter (disabled, in supported living) receives in benefits. I do think there's disparity in benefit income for people who have to run a home and those who live with family or in supported living!
But the difference is you could ask her to give you more contribution. My daughter pays a set amount towards bills, UC pays her rent, and the rest is hers!

OMGsamesame · 01/06/2024 15:46

Trainersbythetruckload · 01/06/2024 02:26

She’s really sweet and thoughtful but mentally a lot younger than her real age, so adulting is a mystery to her and she just wouldn’t realise how much things cost. She spends her money on clothes, art supplies, any travel that she does (train fares) and she is saving for a trip abroad with another friend later in the year. She definitely has a lot more disposable income than I do!

I was about to say, £1000 pm disposable is LOADS at 20!

Is she paying into a pension? Savings? Using it to work on her life skills so she isn't reliant on you when you are older and potentially needing care yourself?

Sounds as though she doesn't even come shopping with you or share in the preparation of food. How is this helping her?

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 01/06/2024 15:42

ClubbingClobber · 01/06/2024 15:12

You have nothing better to do than begrudge a holiday to a disabled housebound young woman? Ghastly.

Get over yourself. I'm astonished that someone with 1K to play with a month actually had the gall to accept free flights from "well off" people

UnitedOps · 01/06/2024 15:19

Flipzandchipz · 01/06/2024 08:50

Honestly as nice a person as your daughter may be, this poster has it spot on, it’s not a practically sustainable situation!

It’s £400 pcm not £100 pcm

WhyIOughtTo · 01/06/2024 15:18

What nonsense is this?!
Why would it be her paying?
You are infuriatingly passive about this!

It's really a good example that your daughter has too much disposable income and either has not learned to manage money or is not capable of doing so that she would go to the supermarket and hand over money to pay for a friends food for a week.

Surely you can see that it isn't a usual thing to do for one young adult to consistently pay for a friends food. Do you know anyone else who does this?

Havesome2024 · 01/06/2024 15:16

What’s her long term plan, are there collage courses she can attend for life skills?

Testina · 01/06/2024 15:14

@ClubbingClobber that’s not how I read that poster’s comment at all. It didn’t sound like an issue with a disabled woman going on holiday. It sounded like a raised eyebrow at someone with £12K a year entirely disposable income accepting a free flight off someone else’s parents.

ClubbingClobber · 01/06/2024 15:12

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 01/06/2024 15:09

So your daughter who receives 1400K per month of tax payers cash in pocket money, is also accepting free holiday flights?

You have nothing better to do than begrudge a holiday to a disabled housebound young woman? Ghastly.

Bestyearever2024 · 01/06/2024 15:12

Bloody hell. I'm almost speechless.

You are struggling and your DD has a spare £1k a month ?

You are NOT teaching her anything at all about how much it costs to live.

I can't even articulate how fucked up your story is

QuickFinish · 01/06/2024 15:11

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 01/06/2024 15:09

So your daughter who receives 1400K per month of tax payers cash in pocket money, is also accepting free holiday flights?

That's true, the other wealthy family probably only offered the free flights because they thought the OPs daughter was skint. 🫤

DontCheetoTheCheetah · 01/06/2024 15:09

So your daughter who receives 1400K per month of tax payers cash in pocket money, is also accepting free holiday flights?

QuickFinish · 01/06/2024 14:49

I know you can't 'will away' disabilities but by making everything so easy for her then it's not going to help her try to do things for herself. The teen years and early 20's is an age where you have to reset your relationship with your child from mother and child to mother and ADULT child. I understand it's complicated your daughter's disabilities but you aren't doing her any favours by mollycoddling her.

It sounds like you are too nervous to do anything that might rock the boat and that isn't good for anyone.

By the way, if one of my adult kids friends was hanging around like your daughters friend I'd have given them chores to do 😅. I'm not kidding!

Testina · 01/06/2024 14:45

Trainersbythetruckload · 01/06/2024 13:43

@Jellyx if she was capable of cooking, cleaning and managing her own shopping she wouldn’t be on high rate PIP. But yes, I could certainly drop the pair of them at the supermarket at the start of his next stay and tell them they need to sort food out for his visit, between them they could manage that. Although it would be DD paying for it, not him.

What nonsense is this?!
Why would it be her paying?
You are infuriatingly passive about this!

As for her not being capable of shopping.. fair enough if that’s not physically able because of CFS. But if she’s capable of deciding what art supplies she needs and ordering those, then she’s capable of planning food and ordering that online too. It sounds like she could be more independent than you expect from her.

Theredoubtableskins · 01/06/2024 14:43

She is asleep. Tell him it’s time to go home. Especially as you don’t have anymore money for food and you said this shop was quite lean so you don’t even have much in the house.

You're a grown woman. It’s your house. Tell him to go home.

ForestAtTheSea · 01/06/2024 14:41

I agree with the concerns that she might be used but not fully understanding this.

ASD can often mean not realizing in time that people don't always have only good intentions / are not selfish.

Especially as she is sleeping a lot of the time, that would be the cue for him to go home.
It does not even have to be one or the other situation, he might well be a good friend to her and have a problematic home life, but that does not mean he might be looking out for himself, too.
As she does not go out much, it is probably nice for your daughter that the friend visits her and she does not need to go elsewhere to socialize. She might fear if you curb the food then he won't visit as much.
They can still stay in contact via calls/text/video.

The "test" of whether this is a true friend might come when he is asked to contribute or socialize in a different way. If he is only her friend for the convenient home life at your place, then he wasn't really a friend, then this could be an insight that hurts.

Macaroni46 · 01/06/2024 14:28

Trainersbythetruckload · 01/06/2024 02:26

She’s really sweet and thoughtful but mentally a lot younger than her real age, so adulting is a mystery to her and she just wouldn’t realise how much things cost. She spends her money on clothes, art supplies, any travel that she does (train fares) and she is saving for a trip abroad with another friend later in the year. She definitely has a lot more disposable income than I do!

This stands out for me. She has more disposable income than you. She needs to pay more towards her keep - simples. PiP and UC are to cover living expenses; I doubt £100 per week is covering them.

Mnetcurious · 01/06/2024 14:21

Trainersbythetruckload · 01/06/2024 13:28

@Idontjetwashthefucker her friend that she is going with, who is a lot more capable and is at university. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have reservations about her going, but at the same time I want to encourage her to be more independent. Her friend is a very sensible, lovely girl.

“I want to encourage her to be more independent” but you’re not doing this by doing everything around the house for her (as per your pp) and failing to teach her how much things cost - ie explaining the extra costs of her friend always being at your house and that you can’t afford to carry that cost.

ClubbingClobber · 01/06/2024 14:11

I would suggest a weekly food budget for them and encourage them to Google healthy inexpensive easy to prepare meals.
I might start them off by sending a link to one that I know contains Ingredients they both love. Maybe even give them a quick demonstration personally (great family memories being made).
Make it a fun challenge! Perhaps with a prize for the first effort, you want to set a scene of something enjoyable rather than a restriction. Reframe the whole thing.

Hey, presto… they will be on the way to learning to budget and prepare simple meals. They may need a hand being topped up a little the first weeks, but it takes time to learn things.

TammyJones · 01/06/2024 14:10

MariaLuna · 01/06/2024 02:13

he turned up with at least some food for himself, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside.

He's a user.

You owe it to yourself and your daughter to have this out in the open. Otherwise she will repeat this pattern as an adult.

Yep
Agree
After your update seeing you'd mentioned this , he basically ignored you.
Stop feeling him - see how often he visits then.
You must not let dd be that desperate for friends.

TammyJones · 01/06/2024 14:07

MariaLuna · 01/06/2024 02:07

I can’t work out if I’m being a bitch or not.

Of course you're not being a bitch OP.

You have to haul on your big girl pants now and firstly talk to your daughter and don't let basically a stranger "take over your house".

He's a cheeky fucker really. Are you going to let him eat you out of your house and home?

Coupe of things
Why is he staying ?
Hour or not.
He comes vists then goes home
You also Don't feed him if your budget is tight.
Maybe he's unhappy at home because his mum had reduced his food intake so comes and eats your food instead
Seems rude abd entitled in a lot of respects.
It's your food
Your home
He's a guest.
A bad one
Tell him to keep his mits off

ClubbingClobber · 01/06/2024 14:06

I would ask his him to ask his parents for a contribution, whether they were using to feed him the days he’s with you can be given to you, and your daughter can cover the rest.

I would be extremely wary of teaching her to “buy” friends.

I would be just as conscientious about teaching her the value of helping those less fortunate and feeding the hungry.

You sound like a lovely mum!

SilverGlitterBaubles · 01/06/2024 14:02

Agreed OP, it is awful that you have to worry and struggle like this unnecessarily. Let your DD know that next time the friend stays you will be taking them to do a shop so friend can provide their own food.You will need to oversee that DD is not paying for the friends share. It will help your DD to be more independent, plan and shop for meals and to be more aware of managing her money.

PonyPatter44 · 01/06/2024 14:00

I've read all your posts and I'm slightly concerned that your DD is being taken advantage of. Now, I may well be wrong, and her friend may actually be just as vulnerable as her...but that doesn't mean he can't also be a bit of a wrong 'un. If she's asleep all the time, what the feck is he DOING? Sitting admiring the Sleeping Beauty? Do you check her devices regularly? I know she is legally an adult, but she is very vulnerable and I think it would be wise to know who she is talking to online and what she is talking about. Two very vulnerable young people, with a decent income and limited street smarts, are at risk of exploitation in multiple ways.

I would start by saying to DD that she needs to up her financial contribution by at least 50% as of now. You can also drive them to the supermarket to do their own little shop, which will be a supported introduction to shopping and cooking for DD.

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