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Donning my hard hat for this one - cabin crew appearance

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TellerTuesday · 31/05/2024 20:30

I do realise I'm probably going to get flamed for this but has anyone else noticed a real decline in the appearance of cabin crew members?

Just had a flight with Virgin and the female members honestly looked dreadful. Ill fitting uniforms, red trousers stretched over VPL bottoms, tight white gaping shirts, one had a drab cardigan over the top.

I realise it's a sexist notion but when I was younger they always looked so glamorous strutting through the airport in their heeled court shoes (mainly flat now it appears), immaculate hair and make up.

Also thought the same when I last flew with TUI. The male cabin crew always seem to look well turned out.

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TorturedParentsDepartment · 12/09/2024 10:58

And if we're campaigning against terribly designed uniforms that fit NO ONE properly... can I raise the horror that is NHS trousers?!

Even my boss who has an absolutely amazing figure looks bloody terrible when she wears them. No one looks good in them, no one looks tolerable in them and the only redeeming feature they have is pockets.

OminousBirdAWing · 11/09/2024 13:07

Glamour doesn't matter to me but I feel better seeing them in more natural fibres and well fitting clothes. They look more comfortable and that makes me more comfortable.

All this ill fitting polyester gives me the panicky itch.

LordSnot · 11/09/2024 13:05

I declare the matter back OPEN.

Thevelvelletes · 11/09/2024 13:05

Reminds me of Eric cartman of South park fame.. Respect my Authority.

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 12:57

The matter is CLOSED now

Well, that’s us told.

Naunet · 11/09/2024 12:55

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 01:53

That's a load of rubbish! Cabin crew should wear uniforms that are smart and stylish and professional-looking. If their uniform is crap - ie. one of drab pants and sneakers and polo shirts - then that will NOT project a good and professional impression of the airline company. I mean, who the hell wants to be served by crew that look as if they have just come from the gym or the factory???

Anyway, that is my opinion, and I am sticking to it. And I know a lot of people agree with me on this.

Because of course, we all have to pretend there is no middle ground here 🙄

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 12:51

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 12:26

Of course you can have an opinion. I merely wondered who felt so strongly about Julien MacDonald uniforms in particular that they chose a username based on them and made multiple posts about them on a forum 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Nothing odd about my using Julien MacDonald as a username at all. It's just that - like most aviation buffs who prefer the JM uniform - I happened to opt for that particular name, as it is totally relevant to my comments on this matter. I mean, people ARE allowed to talk about their favourite cabin crew uniforms, aren't they?

It is certainly better than choosing REAL questionable usernames like "Sexy Uniform" or "Hot Chick", isn't it? I would NEVER use those names, as I am not that kind of person.

And look - I am getting a bit SICK TO DEATH of these nasty, uncalled for comments from certain bad-minded individuals on this forum. For heaven's sake, stop picking bad out of what I am saying re good and bad cabin crew uniforms. I am doing no harm at all. If some of you have a problem with aviation buffs airing their views on uniforms, then just don't bother reading them.

The matter is CLOSED now. Any further nasty comments will be ignored. I am entitled to my opinion, just like everybody else.

ThePrologue · 11/09/2024 12:51

I think it's the law that in any job requiring a uniform skirt to be worn (banks, building societies, cabin crew), the wearer has to put on weight so the skirt is at least 2 sizes too small

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 12:31

Plus of course, I was joking. I don’t really think you’re Julien MacDonald. He doesn’t strike me as the Mumsnet type.

Thevelvelletes · 11/09/2024 12:31

I don't think he'd suit a tight skirt and silk scarf somehow.

Golaz · 11/09/2024 12:29

LordSnot · 31/05/2024 20:31

Post a few recent photos of yourself and we'll let you know if you look better or worse than cabin crew we've encountered lately.

😂😂😂😂

Seriously OP? I mean wtaf ?
YABU , and grossly sexist, obviously.

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 12:26

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:29

Incredible what you just said. And ridiculous!

So a person can't have an opinion anymore then if they like or dislike a particular aspect of the airline industry?

Of course you can have an opinion. I merely wondered who felt so strongly about Julien MacDonald uniforms in particular that they chose a username based on them and made multiple posts about them on a forum 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 12:25

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:32

You are missing the point. Have you not realised that there are many people out there who like to see cabin crew dressed smartly and professionally - and NOT like bloody car tyre workers or checkout staff!

To judge by your comments, you don't seem to be a fan of smart, professional clothing.

The poster is pointing out that the new BA uniform is actually a tight skirt and neck scarf, and wondering how many tyre workers you’ve seen wearing that?

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 12:24

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:44

Apparently, another fan of the too-casual, too sporty-looking attire of drab pants and slacks and T-shirts.

And may I add that this downward trend towards wearing less smart, more frumpy clothing is not just confined to the airline industry, but it is spreading to other organisations - sadly - as well. We are becoming a nation of scruffs.

And you like or lump my comments, but I am speaking the truth.

You are speaking your opinion.

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:44

Thevelvelletes · 11/09/2024 06:31

Exactly,if female staff have to be asthetically pleasing to the pp eye ..I think they should be pinged back to the 1950s.

Apparently, another fan of the too-casual, too sporty-looking attire of drab pants and slacks and T-shirts.

And may I add that this downward trend towards wearing less smart, more frumpy clothing is not just confined to the airline industry, but it is spreading to other organisations - sadly - as well. We are becoming a nation of scruffs.

And you like or lump my comments, but I am speaking the truth.

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:32

Porridgeislife · 11/09/2024 06:20

No I understood your point perfectly. There is no factory in which you’d wear a tight skirt and a neck scarf which is the new BA uniform.

You sound frankly very creepy if the “look” of the crew matters to you on a flight.

You are missing the point. Have you not realised that there are many people out there who like to see cabin crew dressed smartly and professionally - and NOT like bloody car tyre workers or checkout staff!

To judge by your comments, you don't seem to be a fan of smart, professional clothing.

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:29

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 07:00

You have a really weird obsession with the Julien MacDonald uniform 😁, you even chose your username in its honour. Are you… Julien MacDonald?!

Incredible what you just said. And ridiculous!

So a person can't have an opinion anymore then if they like or dislike a particular aspect of the airline industry?

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:27

ForGreyKoala · 11/09/2024 07:52

So? I couldn't care less what they are wearing, I'm more concerned that they are good at their job. You are obviously someone who values style over substance (i.e. you are shallow)

Oh for goodness sake!

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 11:26

Porridgeislife · 11/09/2024 06:18

Really? What impact does it actually have on you if the airline staff are in polo shirts? Is the plane less safe? Your coffee less warm? Luggage less likely to arrive?

You’re entitled to your opinion but others are entitled to point out the ridiculousness of it.

No comment. Everybody to their own opinion.

ForGreyKoala · 11/09/2024 07:52

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 10/09/2024 17:18

I take your point. However, there are some really BAD cabin crew uniforms rolled out recently - esp from BA - who look more like the kind factory workers would wear than airline crew. It has to be said.

So? I couldn't care less what they are wearing, I'm more concerned that they are good at their job. You are obviously someone who values style over substance (i.e. you are shallow)

LakieLady · 11/09/2024 07:25

Up until c. 2019 it was MANDATORY for female cabin crew to wear make up - a list of required items like eyeliner, blush, and lipstick - and high heels, per their employee handbook across almost every airline. I've been down an aviation rabbit hole this past week so your post is timely.

A former colleague's daughter got a cabin crew job with Emirates. Not only did the dress code specify a minimum heel height for their court shoes among loads of other nonsense, they were issued a colour chart of acceptable lipstick shades. There were only about 5 shades on it!

That is an absurd degree of control freakery imo.

Youdontevengohere · 11/09/2024 07:00

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 01:37

I don't know what you mean. You don't seem to have understood my point. I meant that for an airline to change from a beautifully smart, professional uniform - namely the Julien MacDonald one - to one that looks more like the kind of drab, dull gear that a factory or fast food worker might wear is a HUGE downgrade. Wearing a uniform that is comfortable is all very well - but if it ruins the look of the crew, then for me, that is a HUGE minus, I don't care what the casual-uniform-loving lot might say.

Keep cabin crew SMART and PROFESSIONAL. To HELL with drab slacks and sneakers and polo shirts!

You have a really weird obsession with the Julien MacDonald uniform 😁, you even chose your username in its honour. Are you… Julien MacDonald?!

Thevelvelletes · 11/09/2024 06:31

Porridgeislife · 11/09/2024 06:20

No I understood your point perfectly. There is no factory in which you’d wear a tight skirt and a neck scarf which is the new BA uniform.

You sound frankly very creepy if the “look” of the crew matters to you on a flight.

Exactly,if female staff have to be asthetically pleasing to the pp eye ..I think they should be pinged back to the 1950s.

Porridgeislife · 11/09/2024 06:20

BringBackJulienMacDonaldUniform · 11/09/2024 01:37

I don't know what you mean. You don't seem to have understood my point. I meant that for an airline to change from a beautifully smart, professional uniform - namely the Julien MacDonald one - to one that looks more like the kind of drab, dull gear that a factory or fast food worker might wear is a HUGE downgrade. Wearing a uniform that is comfortable is all very well - but if it ruins the look of the crew, then for me, that is a HUGE minus, I don't care what the casual-uniform-loving lot might say.

Keep cabin crew SMART and PROFESSIONAL. To HELL with drab slacks and sneakers and polo shirts!

No I understood your point perfectly. There is no factory in which you’d wear a tight skirt and a neck scarf which is the new BA uniform.

You sound frankly very creepy if the “look” of the crew matters to you on a flight.

JustAnotherDayInNorfolk · 11/09/2024 06:19

I was on a jet2 flight a couple of weeks ago and one of the cabin crew was my size - at least an 18 which wouldn't have been a problem if her uniform fitted her. The skirt was at least 2 sizes too small and rucked up at the back, her blouse was un ironed and the back of it was hanging out and her shoes could have done with a polish. Did it affect how she did her job? No but quite frankly she looked a mess.

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