To push ds into claiming

If he's physiotherapists he shouldn't be signing up for events organiser, he could have a locum or bank job assoon as he wanted it🤷‍♂️

@AmpleFatball I wasn't questioning him keeping his uni accommodation until August, I stayed in my uni city between years so I could, well, work, as there were more opportunities there than my home town.

I was questioning why he couldn't get casual work in either/or his uni town or home town whilst job searching. Should he suddenly be offered a career opportunity in physio in another part of the country he would probably only have to give a week's notice max in a summer job.

Again, why can't he find casual work?!

During the summer holidays and prior to permanent work my dc did:

Hospitality (bar and waitressing(
Babysitting
Gold caddying
Kumon assistants
Gardening
Writing for catalogues
Amazon warehouse shifts
Reception work.

They both had permanent jobs within 2/3 weeks of graduating. maybe because they had work experience on their cv's

No he shouldn't claim universal.credit. He should get a job if he wants to stay in uni accommodation. If he doesn't get a job he can pack and go home. When home he needs his arse kicked tonearm as much as or more than uc would pay.

https://www.charityjob.co.uk/

Tell him to start applying while he's waiting for a job and to temp in a bar in the interim. You need to snap out of the benefits culture mindset. Your 1st instinct should have been to encourage him to get a job instead of signing on.

I can’t believe this….I don’t know any single person who doesn’t, or didn’t, work during uni at some stage. What did he do for those long summer holidays??

He has been to Uni to go on the dole ? FFS surely he has a career in mind ?

I don’t think a lot of people realise that income based JSA doesn’t exist anymore and is under Universal credit.

You claim UC while looking for work. Students are not eligible, but if he is technically not a student rn, he can definitely claim the job seeker element of UC while looking for any job. Even temporary work in a pub or whatever.

It does make sense.

I studied at the other end of the country from where my parents lived. While job hunting, I kept my accommodation so that I could easily attend interviews at that end of the country (without having to spend on train fare each time).

They can’t possibly have done - they were giving him about 5k a year and the fees are 9k for one year.

No, I don't think your son should be encouraged to apply for UC, he needs to look for a job which can tide him over until he finds a more permanent role.
My views are influenced by the people who choose UC over work

Having some taxpayer's money you mean. He needs to get a job but sounds like he is used to other people paying for him to loaf around.

You guys paid for everything whilst he was at uni?!?

how?£?)????

but why hasnt he had any work the past 3 years

If he’s not living with you? Then I’m unsure why he needs to claim it

He's got no business applying for benefits. He needs to be walking round local bars/cafes/tourist attractions, signing up with temping agencies and getting himself a job doing anything.

Even once he's got results and started looking/applying for grad jobs, the interview process can take weeks/months. It won't look good on his application that he's sat on his arse for months either.

I wouldn't employ a 21 year old "man" who lived off his parents and would rather claim benefits from the state than get a summer gig in a bar/cafe/shop/call centre/warehouse.

But claiming the jobseeker allowance via universal credit isn’t a case of rather claim benefits than work. It’s a benefit anyone is entitled to while they seek a job. It is for people who would rather work and are looking for work.

With coursework and previous marks

Unless there is a marking strike that covers 40% or more of your grade for the year…..

This doesn't make sense?! He can find out whether he's passed or not whether he's at home or in his uni town.

He has a very blasé attitude to the whole thing, what if he hasn't passed and getting a job "in his field" may not be as easy as he imagines? Or will he then just repeat the year and kick the can down the road for another year?

I have a friend who is a (self-employed) physiotherapist and it's a very competitive industry. The last person he employed at his clinic impressed him with their work ethic and range of part time jobs throughout education (it's a career that requires you to be personable and good with people).

I wouldn't employ a 21 year old "man" who lived off his parents and would rather claim benefits from the state than get a summer gig in a bar/cafe/shop/call centre/warehouse.

Also just seen your update, and jamimmi is spot on! Also consider looking for private and independent sector jobs at Health Jobs UK and The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy Job Board. In addition to whatever you advise him to do around applying for benefits, please urge him to start applying for these jobs now, not in August, as they fill up very quickly with the large cohort of incoming grads in his year group who have already started looking. He doesn't need to sort out his CV; most of these jobs require a tailored profile.

Additionally, if he's unsure whether or not he will pass, it's worth checking out the resit policy. His university will probably have summer resits, which will delay his completion date and hence also his council tax burden. I may be reading too much into this as it's just over text, but his general recalcitrance to follow the very bog standard career advice for physio does sort of suggest to me he thinks he has failed his exams. This is not the end of the world, and loads of people go on to pass their resits and get a job. But it's better to prepare now than put it off if that's the case.

Yes but you don’t get to your final exams and not be sure you’ve passed unless you’re right on the border of failing. With coursework and previous marks you know roughly if you’re going to get a 2:1 or 2:2. Potential for failing means you’re going to get a very low degree even if you don’t fail, that’s not most students.

Where in the UK are you?

I guarantee he could have a hospitality job before the end of the week in any area bar the Outer Hebrides!

I employed 6 students this week on a short term contract until they return to study end of September. All are paid well, with added tips, and have booked existing holiday/festival weekends off over the next 4 months, so it's not that they are "tied into" anything.

There is no marking strike at my DC’s uni. Some unis have a marking strike rn, leaving many students in total ignorance as to whether they have passed.

Well he's been living off his parents thus far, the concept of working the long student summer at least seems foreign to him and his mum!

There's at least 5 months between the end of one academic year and the next (usually May-October). That's almost half the year to be spending not working/studying.

By the way, no coincidence that the people who did best at university/academic study amongst mine/my siblings/friends peer groups were the ones with enough of a work ethic/family values to have supported themselves (even partly) through at least some of their lives up to the age of 21/22.

Those who hadn't, got a big shock when they entered the real world of work after leaving education.

It’s not that unusual to not have your results yet. My DC graduates next week, got results yesterday and emailed them for a final transcript and proof of degree. Nothing yet. Many graduate programs and jobs require proof of your degree and classification before starting.

I agree that there’s too many degrees that probably shouldn’t be degrees, but physiotherapy is not one of them.