To push ds into claiming

He can take some time out if he wants - if you and his father are willing to fund it. It's not the job of the state to fund people who have finished their education but don't feel ready to work yet.

If he wants to apply for jobs now in earnest he can by all means claim JSA equivalent part of UC.

Hospitality is shit pay and mostly zero hours. OP's son could work in it, and still be topped up by the tax payer anyway.... and probably get more in UC top up than if they were just unemployed.

And you think the tax payer should fund it,

It takes 5 weeks and you can get an immediate advance.

i would encourage him to get a job in a cafe, bar, restaurant or supermarket asap, then once he’s secured that, start working on his cv and applying for jobs in his field.

Hospitality industry is crying out for people and the majority of graduates have a tough time landing a job in their field/ preferred area. There is also quite often a mismatch with what graduates think they should be earning as their starting salary vs the reality so he might be overly picky when looking as job adverts and salary. But any job is far better than a gap in the cv. He has already finished uni so needs to plug that gap sooner rather than later.

good luck to him, and hopefully you won’t need to subsidise him for too much longer!

it will take at least 3 months to get any money through from UC, in that time he could easily have had a full time-sized pay packet from a job.

@Lacky301

Would it help him to join the CSP, OP?

https://www.csp.org.uk/networks/new-graduates

https://www.csp.org.uk/apply-online/student-prescreening

Nobody minds him choosing to having time out but NOT paid for by him claiming UC. That would make him a lazy arse and daft, as clearly a future employer is really going to be wondering why he wasn't working and others were. This makes either you and his father ignorant or goady on this thread.

I did a similar course and many people just couldn’t live without a part time job. They needed to eat! I worked in my first 2 years, even with full time placements. Obviously it was very part time. I was extremely fortunate and was financially supported by family in my final year. I worked full time in the long summer holidays though. I also did a bit of voluntary work here and there - no commitment, plenty of flexibility- to show I was building skills. I was a similar age to the OP’s son. People make so many excuses.

Interesting that he's only signed up for an events agency. He's previously worked at festivals. Sounds like he wants a job where he can attend things for free.

OP, he's making excuses and you're enabling it. How many pubs had he been to asking if they have jobs? How many shopping centres has we walked round, calling in at every shop or cafe to see if they have vacancies? How many normal employment agencies has he signed up to for ANY work? How many hospitals has he contacted to volunteer at to help his CV? How many care homes has he contacted to ask if they have jobs going?

None by the sound of things because the poor little flower needs a 3 month rest after all that hard study. And he can't get a job in Uni town because he might have to come home. And he can't come home before August because if he does you might expect him to get a job he's already paid up for his digs.

He simply ain't going to get a job as a Physio if this is a correct assessment of his attitude. It's not about whether you're a failure as a parent. Its how to stop this ridiculous situation rolling onwards. I was given 3 months after my final exam at Uni to get a job or I would have to leave home because my parents wouldn't sub me a minute longer. Whether that was true or not I have no idea, but it scared the pants off me enough to ensure I got a least a bar job, and then had 3 "career" interviews lined up within 4 weeks (and that was with a 3rd!). Graduates can't just hang round in their Uni towns doing nothing - they need to get their arses into gear and start making themselves look attractive to employees. Taking a 3 month dossing about 'rest' is nothing but making excuses.

He won't get a job while you're paying him £450 not to.

Honestly you’d think from this thread that he’d been out of work/studies for many a month, it’s been a week.

That's a really good call. I think he may be preparing the OP for the fact that he hasn't passed.

This.
If he is not sure he has passed, then his MH must be in tatters, especially after all the time and effort getting to this point.

I went to uni (ODP) and at the start, we advised to not take on a job during the course duration (term time), as placements, lectures, OSCES, assignments, exams etc.... we would not have time to shit, let alone have a part time job. Lots of people didn't work during the course duration, but some did. Some people are good at spinning lots of plates, and others are not.... and that is ok.
I dropped out in the end as I could not even manage the course itself (and I fucking hated placement.... so it would have been nuts to do it as a job after).

There are thousands of jobs out there. He should get any job.

OP I have managed a lot of recent graduates over the years. Your son doesn’t sound like he has the motivation at the moment to succeed in any competitive career. He needs a good kick up the ass.

it is shocking that a parent would rather their child be in benefits than look for work - what a strange attitude.

He is an adult - and shouldn’t need to be in benefits while he finds his feet! He needs to grow up and get a job - even part time.

Oh I see, he's possibly waiting for his results because it hasn't worked out, different kettle of fish then...

As I have implied a few times OP, it seems he may be concerned that he hasn't passed his physio degree. No judgement there, it's a tough course and the placements can be brutal. Just be mindful of his mental health here, check in with him, is he ok?

Get him to look into doing fundraising calls for his uni yo alumni, it's a flexible and easy job he can do for a few weeks in the summer to earn cash before his accommodation ends.

I live rurally but see signs all the time for pub staff, cafe staff wanted. Shop staff usually wanted in the local town. Best thing is to walk in and ask rather than email.
It seems quite usual for graduates to have a temp job then move on to start building their career. He’ll need to treat job finding as a full time project.

I "intend" to get married one day. It doesn't mean it'll happen! And it definitely ain't happening without a bit of effort on my part. I can't just sit back without joining any dating sites, tell people I 'intend' to get married, and expect a husband to miraculously waltz into my living room.

And if someone was subbing me £450 a month I'd be even less inclined.

I totally agree. Even if it's just as a porter or HCA temporarily. It'll make him stand out more for job applications. He could even voluntarily shadow some physios when he isn't on shift. I don't get this hesitancy in applying for any job and preferring to go on benefits. There is much more to this and I'd image he hasn't passed and is hiding behind it until it's official.

All this is true, but the red flag is him "not knowing if he's passed", which would be unusual with grade predictions, etc.

And while grad schemes may make an offer conditional upon grades, the time to actually apply is often months before this - which is yet another thing he doesn't seem to have done

So from your OP it seems that DS is going a physio degree, hasn't had any job at all apart from working at festivals and now wants to stay in his uni town until August, still not working and being funded by you to the tune of £450 per month. You're wondering if you can stop paying the £450 and have Universal Credit pay it instead to keep him in the lifestyle to which he's become accustomed?

Surely this can't be right, if he's really insistent on waiting for his results, he needs to get any job in the meantime and then look for a 'proper' job. It seems like he's somehow missed the boat for a graduate job, but there must be tonnes of healthcare related jobs that he can be doing?

UC should really be a last resort and not some pocket money to enjoy the summer.

He needs to be mindful gaps in employment don't look good on a cv and during an interview they will want to know what he's been doing with his time. Working in a shop or bar sounds a lot better to an employer then I was playing on my xbox until I got my results

Can he get touch with the Bank at his local NHS trust and sign up for Bank Work?