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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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XenoBitch · 02/06/2024 14:37

Waitformetoarrive · 02/06/2024 14:04

No university does not allow students to work. Your DS is spinning bullshit to justify not working and you are just lapping it up! He need to get off his arse and get a job, he is a lazy.

None say you are not allowed, but they do discourage it. I did a HCP course (as did OP's son), and we were discouraged from working during term time due to placements and the workload. We were also not allowed to go on holiday between semesters.
Many people on my course did not work (they were supported by family etc.... I was one of them), but some did.

Waitformetoarrive · 02/06/2024 14:04

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 11:03

Ds will not be claiming in any case only if he struggles to find a job and he is willing to do anything.
Has for not working at uni well is it such a bad thing to just concentrate on studies some universities discourage or don't allow.

No university does not allow students to work. Your DS is spinning bullshit to justify not working and you are just lapping it up! He need to get off his arse and get a job, he is a lazy.

rwalker · 02/06/2024 13:55

I think people don’t realise he won’t just get money for turning up
they’ll a sign him job coach he will have to apply for things or the will just stop any money they were giving him

it’s that much of a pain I would suspect it would stir him into action

Byronada · 02/06/2024 13:40

It doesn't work like that in government eyes he has finished his course so no longer a student and can get a job and contribute to council tax as his permanent address is at his dad's.*

Not just in the government's eyes but also in the eyes of hardworking taxpayers like me.

SnozPoz · 02/06/2024 12:35

I don't think he will get anything if he hasn't worked before? Also it's really not hard to get a job in the UK since Brexit. Shops, restaurants, cafes, bars, farms.... they're all desperate for workers. I think he needs a bit of a wake-up call

Hairyfairy01 · 02/06/2024 11:08

To be fair OP, physio students where I am at least are encouraged to not work in term time. Its is a full on course and the placements are full time and demanding. What is strange however is why he hasn't applied for band 5 rotational posts in the nhs much earlier in the year?

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 11:03

Ds will not be claiming in any case only if he struggles to find a job and he is willing to do anything.
Has for not working at uni well is it such a bad thing to just concentrate on studies some universities discourage or don't allow.

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Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 11:00

independentfriend · 01/06/2024 18:28

As he has accommodation until August, he doesn't actually live with his dad at the moment so there's no reason for his dad to lose the single person discount until he moves back in August.

Assuming he can't/won't live with you - it's ok for him to just have one home when he moves back rather than moving between your house and his dad's and if you already have two adults in the house it makes sense for him to live with you assuming there's space in your house for him to avoid the Council Tax issue. (Not suggesting lying about where he's living.)

If he's going to claim Universal Credit, the advice I've seen is it's best to claim between 1-18 of the month to avoid problems with two monthly salaries falling into one assessment period. It's worth doing some reading before claiming.

The university careers service should be able to help with job hunting.

A holiday / break after finishing uni isn't a bad plan before plunging into job hunting (not necessarily months worth, but a couple of weeks off)

It doesn't work like that in government eyes he has finished his course so no longer a student and can get a job and contribute to council tax as his permanent address is at his dad's.

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Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 10:58

CaribouCarafe · 02/06/2024 10:51

I'm genuinely surprised 78% of voters think OP is not being unreasonable to push her healthy, fit, almost qualified son to choose benefits over picking up literally any temporary job that would pay the same/more than UC would and would ultimately look better on his cv. Hope he gets a job soon as the thought of someone with his attitude to work receiving anything from my taxes enrages me.

He isn't choosing benefits over a job it was just an idea to tide him over whilst he looks for a job he may get a job before he receives a penny anyway.

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CaribouCarafe · 02/06/2024 10:51

I'm genuinely surprised 78% of voters think OP is not being unreasonable to push her healthy, fit, almost qualified son to choose benefits over picking up literally any temporary job that would pay the same/more than UC would and would ultimately look better on his cv. Hope he gets a job soon as the thought of someone with his attitude to work receiving anything from my taxes enrages me.

Lacky301 · 02/06/2024 10:33

CadyEastman · 02/06/2024 09:26

I don't think the OP is coming back. She hasn't updated the thread since Friday evening.

If you're still there OP I hope your DS has passed his course and is busy with his applications Flowers

Hi I've stopped responding as I've given up no point lol.

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TigerRag · 02/06/2024 09:40

Danielle9891 · 01/06/2024 21:34

He probably won't be able to claim until the end of August as he's university course is for the year. Maintenance loads/grants are meant to tide him over. And then it would only be £311 so he's better off getting a job.

The loan in the final year is lower as over the summer, (ie once he's finished his studies) he can work or get benefits if he needs to

AgentJohnson · 02/06/2024 09:36

Congratulations, your ‘generosity’ has enabled your son to be selfish and entitled. Cut him off! Necessity is a great motivator. He isn’t looking for a job, he’s looking for the job.

PoisedCat · 02/06/2024 09:29

He doesn’t need his uni results to make a CV. He puts the degree on as pending and if it’s relevant to the job they will give an offer. There are plenty of jobs you don’t need a degree for. The thing he will struggle with if he hasn’t worked much will be the experience. Call centre jobs usually take on no experience and train you up so might be worth a look as well as agencies. The final year of university he should have been looking at future prospects around Christmas time. Check if your local council has an employability team. I graduated and then covid hit so I didn’t have a clue where to start. They got me into work and within 3 years I’ve went from minimum wage to a decent salary. By all means get him to claim but DWP will be insistent he spends 35 hours a week looking for work and takes a job with up to an hour and a half travel. They also won’t wait on him finding his dream grad job. If he doesn’t have a job lined up what is the point in going back to his uni town? He would be as well seeing if anyone wants his accommodation. Some students might be willing to take a short let until their own accommodation starting in the new academic year.

CadyEastman · 02/06/2024 09:26

I don't think the OP is coming back. She hasn't updated the thread since Friday evening.

If you're still there OP I hope your DS has passed his course and is busy with his applications Flowers

SaffaIrish · 02/06/2024 09:02

“Some money to tide him over” while waiting for a job is not the reason for benefits. It’s not pocket money, it’s to help those who are struggling and who are genuinely trying to help themselves. Has he even tried to get a job yet?

Itloggedmeoutagain · 02/06/2024 07:25

XenoBitch · 01/06/2024 23:04

Not all degrees are the same. OP's son was doing a healthcare degree, which would mean 40 hour weeks on placement on top of exams, lectures, doing assignments etc.
And not all people are the same. Some are better at spinning more plates than others.

And the people who can spin the plates will stand out and get the jobs

LoopyLouUK · 01/06/2024 23:13

As his course ended 25th May he will be able to claim from then. Student Finance only covers the actual dates of the course.

AzureOrca · 01/06/2024 23:12

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:57

He worked before uni and ds isn't one to sit around I know my own son he's just been concentrating on his studies that's all he has had some very stressful targets to meet.

So have countless other students and I bet the majority have worked their way through uni

XenoBitch · 01/06/2024 23:04

Greengrapeofhome · 01/06/2024 22:08

Well, yes. 😂 most students work as well as doing degrees. Yours has only had to concentrate on the degree. He doesn’t need loads of time to recover just from doing a degree. He really is coming across as a lazy arse.

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Not all degrees are the same. OP's son was doing a healthcare degree, which would mean 40 hour weeks on placement on top of exams, lectures, doing assignments etc.
And not all people are the same. Some are better at spinning more plates than others.

BlueFlowers5 · 01/06/2024 22:16

No one else would have been waiting for results alone - working now will show he is capable of it when he gets graduate interviews.

Greengrapeofhome · 01/06/2024 22:08

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:29

Well I'm guessing ds may want some time out after concentrating on his studies for such a long time but in doing that it appears he's earned lazy arse title

Well, yes. 😂 most students work as well as doing degrees. Yours has only had to concentrate on the degree. He doesn’t need loads of time to recover just from doing a degree. He really is coming across as a lazy arse.

Danielle9891 · 01/06/2024 21:34

He probably won't be able to claim until the end of August as he's university course is for the year. Maintenance loads/grants are meant to tide him over. And then it would only be £311 so he's better off getting a job.

Snowflakeslayer · 01/06/2024 20:58

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

Why would you push someone into claiming benefits? Everything that’s wrong with this generation. It isn’t the governments responsibility to fund your child. I do despair for the future.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 01/06/2024 20:42

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:12

That's the crux of it I don't want me or his dad to pay out anymore so I do want him to either claim in the short term or get a job quickly

As a taxpayer I don’t want to pay out for him and I think it’s a scandal that parents can choose to opt out of bankrolling their kids but random strangers can’t.