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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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BodyKeepingScore · 31/05/2024 18:08

@Lacky301 it absolutely is a "lifestyle choice" he's perfectly capable of working, yet is choosing not to despite being an adult. He either expects you to financially suppprt him or to rely on benefits whilst he takes some time to "decide". The reality is that if you weren't supporting him he'd have to work to feed and clothe himself. And with good reason too.

Greengrapeofhome · 31/05/2024 18:07

Wow op you’ve done him no favours. He’s what, 22, and never had a job?! Most people work through uni. And now you’re telling him to claim benefits rather than work? Ridiculous

Howmanycatsistoomany · 31/05/2024 18:06

jolenethea · 31/05/2024 18:00

Also, having a job and work experience will help him massively when applying for jobs, and doing interviews, in his chosen field.

This.
Out of necessity I worked nights and weekends term time and 2 jobs (one full time in lab) and a second nights and weekends in the holidays when I was an undergrad and postgrad. I know for a fact that helped get me my first "proper" job post uni.

Octavia64 · 31/05/2024 18:03

I left uni in 1998 and graduate schemes were definitely a thing then. September intakes.

Very time consuming to apply for - application form, interview, weekend assessment centre etc.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 31/05/2024 18:02

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:40

He has previously worked in retail and hospitality before uni but the work was quite intense at uni so we let him concentrate on his studies.

OK, but what about during the holidays? Honestly I'm gobsmacked that you think he should be applying for benefits rather than focusing on getting a job. Any job. He's a grown ass adult who needs to start acting like one.

elliejjtiny · 31/05/2024 18:00

Is the graduate jobs scheme thing where you apply the previous autumn something new or has it been around a long time. Just wondering as I didn't get any careers advice at uni at all and hadn't heard of jobs specific to new graduates apart from teaching jobs. Although I left uni 20 years ago so things have probably changed loads.

OP, my son is nearly 18 and just finished college but he's been going all over the place with his CV. He already works part time self employed so he is going round asking for more work with that and also applying for places like tesco, Lidl etc to bump up his earnings.

jolenethea · 31/05/2024 18:00

Also, having a job and work experience will help him massively when applying for jobs, and doing interviews, in his chosen field.

peachyqueens · 31/05/2024 18:00

Now that's just not true, is it? I'm a hospitality manager and every summer/Christmas we have a fresh recruitment drive for seasonal workers, as well as rehiring students coming home from uni!

NoTouch · 31/05/2024 17:56

ds is on his 2nd job since starting uni. He got fed up with the first one, pizza delivery (which he got by going into all the shops in town in person) after 10 months or so as the shifts were rubbish, so looked for something else by walking into places to enquire and had a new one within the week. Handed in a weeks notice at pizza place and was working as bar staff the next day.

He needs to go out and find a job.

Megera · 31/05/2024 17:55

He’s making himself more unemployable by the day. How embarrassing.

Mammyloveswine · 31/05/2024 17:54

Why hasn't he been working through uni?! Christ when I was at school we all got Saturday jobs in the last year (aged 15/16) then all worked in the local supermarket whilst doing a levels then all had bar jobs at uni!!

Universal credit is not for the work shy, it's to support those that actually need it!

The absolute entitlement!!

AmpleFatball · 31/05/2024 17:53

When I got my post-grad qualification I was on benefits for around 3 months while looking to get my foot in the door of my chosen profession. I’ve been in full time employment for decades since then so I don’t feel remotely bad about it.

He shouldn’t be relying on his parents when benefits are available but some of these posts (OP has utterly failed a parent, blah blah blah) are a tad deranged.

Sirzy · 31/05/2024 17:52

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:48

He applied for jobs but they all wanted somebody that was going to hang around and not shoot back off to uni

So he either moves back home and gets a job there or doesn’t tell them he is planning on leaving.

most jobs like that in uni towns know there will be a lot of movement, and come September there will be a whole new batch ready to work through their studies

BMW6 · 31/05/2024 17:52

It's really lazy to accuse people of "Benefit Bashing" when it's suggested that a person might be lazy/ workshy /entitled when they are perfectly able to work but would rather not.🙄

Leavingasinkingship · 31/05/2024 17:51

Ignoring the ethics for a second, he's unlikely to qualify. Although his course may have finished, any student finance support that he has will have calculated to cover at least until the end of term, if not till August, depending on the terms. While he's entitled to student finance (even if he's received all the payments due) he won't qualify for unemployment benefits

1AngelicFruitCake · 31/05/2024 17:51

My parents went on at me to get a minimum wage job to tide me over. It was hard, the people were all low earners and the whole thing humbled me making me realise just how hard people work. I’d been the typical slightly spoilt teenager before then!

NoTouch · 31/05/2024 17:51

Why did he tell them he was leaving, especially hospitality, they are all zero contract anyway? Get the job and just hand notice in later.

spuddy4 · 31/05/2024 17:50

@Lacky301 that's absolutely not true. I work for Tesco and regularly transfer my students from my store to one near their university then they transfer back home in the holidays. Lots of the big supermarkets offer this.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:48

NoTouch · 31/05/2024 17:47

ds has just finished 2nd year at uni a couple of weeks ago and is now off until mid September. What did he do with himself when off for so long in the summers?

He applied for jobs but they all wanted somebody that was going to hang around and not shoot back off to uni

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NoTouch · 31/05/2024 17:47

ds has just finished 2nd year at uni a couple of weeks ago and is now off until mid September. What did he do with himself when off for so long in the summers?

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:47

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 17:45

Also, if he does move back home at the end of August, yes he should claim universal credit if he hasn’t managed to get a job. It’s what it is there for, to pay for his transport and clothing to attend job interviews, to pay towards the broadband he will use to search for jobs, as a contribution to household costs.

I know that's what I meant but people have started benefit bashing and critisizing

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Megera · 31/05/2024 17:46

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:16

Well it seems we've failed at parenting despite having bought up a young man who has never been involved in crime and is respectful to people and went to uni and worked hard I find that posters comment very judgemental and random

Is the bar really so low it’s literally under the ground!?

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 17:46

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:46

He hasnt worked through uni but did before starting. By let him I meant we supported him financially

And does he live at home as you said or not?

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:46

He hasnt worked through uni but did before starting. By let him I meant we supported him financially

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Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 17:45

Also, if he does move back home at the end of August, yes he should claim universal credit if he hasn’t managed to get a job. It’s what it is there for, to pay for his transport and clothing to attend job interviews, to pay towards the broadband he will use to search for jobs, as a contribution to household costs.

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