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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 18:30

peachyqueens · 31/05/2024 18:00

Now that's just not true, is it? I'm a hospitality manager and every summer/Christmas we have a fresh recruitment drive for seasonal workers, as well as rehiring students coming home from uni!

This it’s utter bollocks there are SO MANY summer jobs for students

CornishTiger · 31/05/2024 18:30

He needs to get a job - any job but yes he can claim UC. Only from the official term end date though as they’ll take his Student income into account until then.

titchy · 31/05/2024 18:29

Strictlymad · 31/05/2024 17:03

No he shouldn’t be applying for uc, he should be applying for job seekers allowance. And treat job hunting like a full time job, shop, bar, pot washing at restaurant. Not sitting about waiting for results. Fwiw when he applies for his degree job the prospective employer will like that that he’s made use of the time, not sat waiting.

UC is job seekers....

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:29

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:19

Are you new to this site? There was only one way this thread was going to go 🤣. Personally, I wouldn’t push my DCs into hospitality jobs - there’s a reason people just walk into those jobs and it isn’t a good one. Fingers crossed he finds something soon. I had a couple of months off when I finished uni many years ago. I’ve worked full time since and am not lazy, work shy or any of those things. I just wanted a short break before starting 40 odd years of work.

Well I'm guessing ds may want some time out after concentrating on his studies for such a long time but in doing that it appears he's earned lazy arse title

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 31/05/2024 18:29

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:51

He wants to use up the rest of his accommodation which he has until August then come home properly.

Can't he get a bar job where his accommodation is?
Agency work in a warehouse?
Call centre work?

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 18:28

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:23

No there was no point as I had a job lined up. I just applied for a job with a start date that meant I had a break first. Funded by my boyfriend at the time ( still together 25 years later). Having a short break after studying for years doesn’t mean you’re lazy is the point I was making.

I agree it’s not lazy, it’s likely the only time he will get to do it. I just disagree with his mum trying to push him onto benefits to fund it.

titchy · 31/05/2024 18:28

If he is living in his uni accommodation till August why is your ex's council tax changing now?

FWIW we funded our dcs till the end of June of their final year so they could have a bit of down time after they'd finished uni. One then got a job, one lived on student overdraft for a few months!

Snugglemonkey · 31/05/2024 18:25

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:23

I'll say it again I agree he needs a job but I've seen people applying for all of the jobs mentioned and not get a single response.

People? Or him?

Mammyloveswine · 31/05/2024 18:24

@Lacky301 why isn't he getting any casual job then to tide him over,?

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:24

Mammyloveswine · 31/05/2024 17:54

Why hasn't he been working through uni?! Christ when I was at school we all got Saturday jobs in the last year (aged 15/16) then all worked in the local supermarket whilst doing a levels then all had bar jobs at uni!!

Universal credit is not for the work shy, it's to support those that actually need it!

The absolute entitlement!!

He isn't work shy

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Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:23

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 18:20

Out of interest, did you claim benefits to pay for it?

No there was no point as I had a job lined up. I just applied for a job with a start date that meant I had a break first. Funded by my boyfriend at the time ( still together 25 years later). Having a short break after studying for years doesn’t mean you’re lazy is the point I was making.

Chocolateorange22 · 31/05/2024 18:22

I'm confused to why he is waiting for his results. For what a grad job to land in his lap? You can generally work out what your degree classification is likely to be by breaking down the units and weighting. I can't imagine he's gone through most of third year without a clue.

He found working hard whilst studying? Was he on placements or something? There is no reason for a student to not work whilst at university. There is so much time outside of lectures, not to mention the long holidays.

Sorry OP you've enabled him and now he has no sense of urgency to get a job because he's never had to because mum and dad could easily afford to keep his lifestyle at university. You can't really now say you are now feeling the strain but letting your son dither. He has to have an ultimatum of finding a job within two weeks or sign on.

showerjelly · 31/05/2024 18:22

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:49

Of course yes I am pushing him to find a job which he does want but it can take time to find one so I'm hoping universal credit will tide him over until he finds one.

He sounds work shy, getting universal credit and his dad off his back, will not incentivise him to get a job.

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 18:20

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:19

Are you new to this site? There was only one way this thread was going to go 🤣. Personally, I wouldn’t push my DCs into hospitality jobs - there’s a reason people just walk into those jobs and it isn’t a good one. Fingers crossed he finds something soon. I had a couple of months off when I finished uni many years ago. I’ve worked full time since and am not lazy, work shy or any of those things. I just wanted a short break before starting 40 odd years of work.

Out of interest, did you claim benefits to pay for it?

AffIt · 31/05/2024 18:20

I work in fintech. Our interns start next month and our grad programme, which kicks off in September, is about 95% full. If your kiddo hasn't been applying to these programmes, then he's missed the boat.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I had three PT jobs -one as a cleaner, one as a tour guide and one in retail - while doing my MSc. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but it was doable.

Tell your little prince to get off his arse and get a job.

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:19

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:47

I know that's what I meant but people have started benefit bashing and critisizing

Are you new to this site? There was only one way this thread was going to go 🤣. Personally, I wouldn’t push my DCs into hospitality jobs - there’s a reason people just walk into those jobs and it isn’t a good one. Fingers crossed he finds something soon. I had a couple of months off when I finished uni many years ago. I’ve worked full time since and am not lazy, work shy or any of those things. I just wanted a short break before starting 40 odd years of work.

Snugglemonkey · 31/05/2024 18:19

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:07

That's not what this is about it's about ds having some money whilst he sorts his career not a lifestyle choice

That is a lifestyle choice. Unless you have parents supporting financially, you get a job for income. You sort out your career while working!

His lack of any work experience looks terrible to employers!

Hairyfairy01 · 31/05/2024 18:18

He might find his official last date at uni is later than his last exam, which will make claiming any benefit impossible really. Are you sure he is expected to pass his course OP? I would be suspicious that he may think he won't, hence not applying for jobs earlier. Most seem to apply for graduate jobs November - April time, his reasoning doesn't make sense. I would be pushing him to make contact with his university's career department, his CV for example should have been sorted out long ago, along with interview techniques etc. In the meantime you need to stop facilitating him by giving him money. Universal credit should not even be on his or your radar to be honest.

Jeezitneverends · 31/05/2024 18:13

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:07

That's not what this is about it's about ds having some money whilst he sorts his career not a lifestyle choice

So he can get off his lazy arse and work for it

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 31/05/2024 18:13

Absolutely make him claim it

Cm19841 · 31/05/2024 18:12

University is over. In our home if you are not in full-time education then you are expected to be in full-time employment (and part-time employment is not acceptable). You work and you pay a contribution to the household.

Those are the choices we have given.

It doesn't matter what you do but you are working and contributing to your living costs and society.

The default, at 21 and beyond, is that it is time to support yourself, even while waiting for the "proper job". So I would say it is time to reduce/then stop the financial support and make it clear a job, any job, needs to be found immediately.

cestlavielife · 31/05/2024 18:12

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:48

He applied for jobs but they all wanted somebody that was going to hang around and not shoot back off to uni

So mow he will be around. What is his degree in? How come he has not applied for grad scheme?

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 18:12

elliejjtiny · 31/05/2024 18:00

Is the graduate jobs scheme thing where you apply the previous autumn something new or has it been around a long time. Just wondering as I didn't get any careers advice at uni at all and hadn't heard of jobs specific to new graduates apart from teaching jobs. Although I left uni 20 years ago so things have probably changed loads.

OP, my son is nearly 18 and just finished college but he's been going all over the place with his CV. He already works part time self employed so he is going round asking for more work with that and also applying for places like tesco, Lidl etc to bump up his earnings.

It’s not new, it was like that when I graduated 14 years ago and it had been around long before that. We had a well established careers fair for the grad schemes at my uni every year and everyone applied for the grad schemes from the autumn before graduating and throughout the year. I think it was called milk round before my time at uni.

mybeautifulhorse · 31/05/2024 18:12

This is really embarrassing for him. And you OP, if it's true.

If he's finished a degree then he's a grown up and needs to start acting like one. If you are in anyway presentable and articulate you can walk into a temp office job in most big cities, if he's above bar work. There are loads of agencies - I did it all the way through uni and had a full summer of reception jobs every year, paid better than retail or bar work and still allowed for a social life. Mind you I didn't have parents footing the bill for my lifestyle so I did have a bit more motivation...

Or as others suggest - retail, bar work, supermarkets. It's coming into summer and lots of people will be taking on temp staff.

The fact that you and he would even consider claiming benefits before doing any of these things, while he 'sorts his career' is truly embarrassing. I wouldn't be holding my breath for that career being sorted either by the way, if this is an indication of his work ethic.

LessOfMe99 · 31/05/2024 18:08

Wow op!! You have had enough of paying, so all of us should instead??! He is perfectly able to work- just doesn't want to- and you think the benefit system is for lazy ex students to do not a lot.
Nobody on here is benefit bashing- just lazy entitled layabout bashing.
And, yes it is easy to get a job as a stop gap. My teens have both worked in hospitality from 15 and the now 17 yr old has 2 jobs alongside college so that she can run her own car.