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Lacky301 · 2024-05-31T15:44:21+00:00

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there. Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

Gazelda · 31/05/2024 18:51

But he's not looking for work, is he?

He's going to wait for his results before starting his job search. So at least 10 weeks away.

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 18:51

Wow benefits really do need a reform don’t they.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:49

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:48

You may not like people claiming benefits but he is actually entitled so blame the government and those who wish to stay on benefits

What?!

Why blame the Government because your DS is choosing not to work, encouraged by you??

I've encouraged him to claim whilst he's looking for work

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EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:48

You may not like people claiming benefits but he is actually entitled so blame the government and those who wish to stay on benefits

What?!

Why blame the Government because your DS is choosing not to work, encouraged by you??

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:48

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:47

I'm not sure it's criticism of your parenting; more so your attitude.

You seem to think it's totally normal he never worked in his uni holidays & that instead of doing so now, the first thought is claiming benefits.

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It's actually been pointed out I've had a epic fail as a parent

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Leavingasinkingship · 31/05/2024 18:48

OP the day he's finished his exams won't be his official end date. When I did my masters my peers ended mid April, but our official end date was august. I found this out as I had to redo part of my course (not my fault - a work placement that didn't meet the requirements so I had to wait for a new one) and wasn't eligible for any funding or any benefits as technically I was still under student finance, despite having to work an extra four months compared to my peers!!

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:47

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:44

Look people may have thier opinions but the critism of my parenting is not on is it?
If posters had of come on and said better he doesn't enter into the benefit system and just tried to find employment whilst we carry on helping him that would have been okay it just takes a bit of kindness and not for people to be labelling me and ds.

I'm not sure it's criticism of your parenting; more so your attitude.

You seem to think it's totally normal he never worked in his uni holidays & that instead of doing so now, the first thought is claiming benefits.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:46

spuddy4 · 31/05/2024 18:44

MN is saying that he needs to take any job right now and not bum around waiting for his results whilst the taxpayer keeps him.

He's never going to find a job when you make excuses for him and you've done it over and over on this thread. He's perfectly capable of taking any job until he finds one in his field but you seem to think he deserves a break which is fine, but don't expect the rest of us to fund it.

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You may not like people claiming benefits but he is actually entitled so blame the government and those who wish to stay on benefits

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TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 31/05/2024 18:46

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:23

No there was no point as I had a job lined up. I just applied for a job with a start date that meant I had a break first. Funded by my boyfriend at the time ( still together 25 years later). Having a short break after studying for years doesn’t mean you’re lazy is the point I was making.

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I agree but having a job lined up is totally different. I did the same and had an awesome 2/3 months. I knew I had the job so I planned financially to support myself. In your case, I assume you discussed with your then boyfriend who was happy to support you.
The OP’s son needs to sort his CV, it’s a far cry from taking a break after uni knowing you have employment.

Examexsham · 31/05/2024 18:46

Not really helpful to your now but HOW has he not worked before? My kids have worked from 15. They've gone out and found their own jobs.

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:46

Exactly @spuddy4

It's fine if he decides he wants to take a week or two off. I used to go abroad in the summer holidays, line up a job & have one week to relax & settle in, then work really hard for the summer.

I sometimes had to take out loans to go abroad, which I'd then pay back after the summer.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:44

Look people may have thier opinions but the critism of my parenting is not on is it?
If posters had of come on and said better he doesn't enter into the benefit system and just tried to find employment whilst we carry on helping him that would have been okay it just takes a bit of kindness and not for people to be labelling me and ds.

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spuddy4 · 31/05/2024 18:44

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

MN is saying that he needs to take any job right now and not bum around waiting for his results whilst the taxpayer keeps him.

He's never going to find a job when you make excuses for him and you've done it over and over on this thread. He's perfectly capable of taking any job until he finds one in his field but you seem to think he deserves a break which is fine, but don't expect the rest of us to fund it.

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:43

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

Talk about taking something out of context.

If you are a young person at uni / finishing up, there's really no reason not to get a job

It's nuts to say that he couldn't find a job during uni holidays. The whole nature of holiday jobs is to cover seasonal demand so it's silly to say employers only want someone who'll stay around after the summer.

You are doing him no favours trying to make excuses for him not working.

In terms of graduate roles, of course he should have had a plan before finishing uni.

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 18:41

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

Why did you ask MN as you don’t think it’s wrong?

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:38

ilovesooty · 31/05/2024 18:35

But he isn't transitioning and hasn't got a job lined up yet.

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He is as he would be looking for a job whilst in receipt

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thesandwich · 31/05/2024 18:37

He will have to pay council tax on this student accom very soon, as no longer a student.
I suggest he puts together a cv- loads of advice online, reed, gradcracker, ucas etc and gets chatgpt to adapt it for retail / hospitality roles, print it out and take copies to local bars, cafes and shops personally independent especially, asking to speak to whoever recruits. Uni careers service may have local leads.
agencies may have casual warehouse etc roles.
Doing nothing will hinder his ability to get a grad job- his degree may get him through the initial sift but his transferable skills will be vital.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:36

OriginalUsername2 · 31/05/2024 18:33

You may have some concerns about claiming welfare benefits, but you shouldn’t feel bad about claiming Universal Credit or Job Seekers Allowance. As a graduate, these benefits are in place to help you transition from full-time study to work, even if you are living at home or have job lined up in a few weeks. This is an important safety net, which you should claim just in case anything changes. If you meet the eligibility criteria below you should claim from the day after your official course end date.

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I have seen this and was going to attach it but I'd be wasting my time lol

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cherryade8 · 31/05/2024 18:36

Surely he isn't entitled to handouts? He's capable of working but hasn't bothered.

ilovesooty · 31/05/2024 18:35

OriginalUsername2 · 31/05/2024 18:33

You may have some concerns about claiming welfare benefits, but you shouldn’t feel bad about claiming Universal Credit or Job Seekers Allowance. As a graduate, these benefits are in place to help you transition from full-time study to work, even if you are living at home or have job lined up in a few weeks. This is an important safety net, which you should claim just in case anything changes. If you meet the eligibility criteria below you should claim from the day after your official course end date.

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But he isn't transitioning and hasn't got a job lined up yet.

OriginalUsername2 · 31/05/2024 18:33

You may have some concerns about claiming welfare benefits, but you shouldn’t feel bad about claiming Universal Credit or Job Seekers Allowance. As a graduate, these benefits are in place to help you transition from full-time study to work, even if you are living at home or have job lined up in a few weeks. This is an important safety net, which you should claim just in case anything changes. If you meet the eligibility criteria below you should claim from the day after your official course end date.

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Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA)

Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) is an unemployment benefit you can claim while looking for work - how to apply online, New Style Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA), eligibility, rates, rapid reclaim, JSA interview, when payment can be stopped

https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance

Hairyfairy01 · 31/05/2024 18:32

I do mean this kindly OP, but is he due to pass his degree? Have you asked him? He should have a pretty good idea what classification of degree he should be getting by now?

Goldengirl123 · 31/05/2024 18:31

I’ve heard it all now!

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 18:31

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:29

Well I'm guessing ds may want some time out after concentrating on his studies for such a long time but in doing that it appears he's earned lazy arse title

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“Wanting time out” isn’t what benefits are for.

need money = work.

or you continue to support him. I don’t see why the taxpayer has to.