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To push ds into claiming

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:06

XenoBitch · 31/05/2024 19:05

UC takes 5 weeks to get anyway. Chances are, OP's son would find a job in that time... and if not, he has that safety net to fall back on.

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Well if he's booked onto a festival it will cancel his award out or massively reduce it

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EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 19:05

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:02

I've spoke to other parents who say thier dc had similar trouble getting jobs.

Really.

Because that's unusual. It can be hard in some areas for under 18s to get jobs. But the great thing about being at uni is you can travel and so move to areas where there are jobs.

That's a complete excuse & not the norm.

XenoBitch · 31/05/2024 19:05

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 19:02

When you’re 21 and your uni course is coming to an end, if you are not applying or on a grad course after, you should have the foresight to apply to cafes etc for a “meantime”
role.

the fact that there is a safety net for people who just cba is not ok, IMO.

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UC takes 5 weeks to get anyway. Chances are, OP's son would find a job in that time... and if not, he has that safety net to fall back on.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:04

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 19:02

When you’re 21 and your uni course is coming to an end, if you are not applying or on a grad course after, you should have the foresight to apply to cafes etc for a “meantime”
role.

the fact that there is a safety net for people who just cba is not ok, IMO.

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Who said he cba just because he needs help whilst seeking work. He's been extremely busy with his studies

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aytowtn · 31/05/2024 19:04

My DSS and DD both graduated university in 2020. By the time their final exams rolled around, DSS had a job lined up with Boeing, DD had been applying but knocked back from loads. Boeing job was cancelled last minute due to pandemic related cutbacks. DSS applied for benefits, but it took about seven weeks for his first payout. He then spent several months faffing about at the JC, getting told to apply to be a binman, a long-distance lorry driver, etc, and had to attend every interview no matter how unsuitable, or risk getting discharged. It then transpired he missed a work appointment at the JC because the eejit was working cash-in-hand with his step-dad. He (quite rightly) had to pay HMRC back.

In that same timeframe, DD was unencumbered by these random interviews, so had time to apply for, interview at, and was receive offers from several jobs.

Obvs anecdotal, but ime it was more faff than it was worth, and DSS was a lot less motivated than DD once he had cash rolling in.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:02

I've spoke to other parents who say thier dc had similar trouble getting jobs.

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amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 19:02

XenoBitch · 31/05/2024 18:54

If he claims UC, then he will be made to look for work anyway.... so I don't see anything wrong with that.
For those who saying UC is just for people that are unable to work.... that is not true. It is also for people that are looking for work. You can't live off of fresh air whilst doing so.

When you’re 21 and your uni course is coming to an end, if you are not applying or on a grad course after, you should have the foresight to apply to cafes etc for a “meantime”
role.

the fact that there is a safety net for people who just cba is not ok, IMO.

Flopsythebunny · 31/05/2024 19:02

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:29

Well I'm guessing ds may want some time out after concentrating on his studies for such a long time but in doing that it appears he's earned lazy arse title

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Benefits are not for people who want 3 months time out after studying

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 19:02

Poppysmom22 · 31/05/2024 19:02

Sorry to tell you this but i recruit for a grad scheme and we rarely give the application without any work experience on it a second glance. If you weren’t motivated enough to work by being a skint student then you aren’t going to have what it takes to get through a grad scheme. Work whilst studying isn’t just about money it’s about demonstrating that you have motivation and that you understand what it is to go to work every day and to have people rely on you as part of a wider team.

Exactly, good points.

Poppysmom22 · 31/05/2024 19:02

Sorry to tell you this but i recruit for a grad scheme and we rarely give the application without any work experience on it a second glance. If you weren’t motivated enough to work by being a skint student then you aren’t going to have what it takes to get through a grad scheme. Work whilst studying isn’t just about money it’s about demonstrating that you have motivation and that you understand what it is to go to work every day and to have people rely on you as part of a wider team.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:01

JamSandle · 31/05/2024 19:00

Is he anxious about working?

I wouldn't say so he appears quite confident

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EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 19:01

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:59

Applied for jobs and got nothing then I told him to just have the time out finish uni then find work

That's absolutely ridiculous.

And that's why you are getting flack.

Of course he could get a job. FGS my DD had worked multiple jobs, sometimes concurrently since she turned 16.

So you encouraged him to sit around doing nothkng all summer? That's so bad for him in many ways, not just financially.

JamSandle · 31/05/2024 19:00

Is he anxious about working?

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:00

WilmaFlintstone1 · 31/05/2024 18:59

Newsflash folks. While OP’s son looks for work he is perfectly entitled to claim UC.

Chances are he will find work before the first payment.

You think UC won’t ask him to look? They will, in fact they will insist on it.

Well in some ways they will help him into work which is good.

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 31/05/2024 19:00

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:59

Applied for jobs and got nothing then I told him to just have the time out finish uni then find work

No bar jobs?
No hospitality?
Nothing?

AmpleFatball · 31/05/2024 19:00

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:52

But he's never worked @Lacky301 ?

Surely you could have anticipated this situation then?

Why do you keep saying that? OP has previously posted:

”He has previously worked in retail and hospitality before uni but the work was quite intense at uni so we let him concentrate on his studies.”

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:59

Applied for jobs and got nothing then I told him to just have the time out finish uni then find work

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WilmaFlintstone1 · 31/05/2024 18:59

Newsflash folks. While OP’s son looks for work he is perfectly entitled to claim UC.

Chances are he will find work before the first payment.

You think UC won’t ask him to look? They will, in fact they will insist on it.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 31/05/2024 18:58

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:57

He worked before uni and ds isn't one to sit around I know my own son he's just been concentrating on his studies that's all he has had some very stressful targets to meet.

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What did he do in the holidays?

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:57

He worked before uni

So what did he do in the uni holidays?

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:57

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:52

But he's never worked @Lacky301 ?

Surely you could have anticipated this situation then?

He worked before uni and ds isn't one to sit around I know my own son he's just been concentrating on his studies that's all he has had some very stressful targets to meet.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:54

XenoBitch · 31/05/2024 18:54

If he claims UC, then he will be made to look for work anyway.... so I don't see anything wrong with that.
For those who saying UC is just for people that are unable to work.... that is not true. It is also for people that are looking for work. You can't live off of fresh air whilst doing so.

Thank you

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XenoBitch · 31/05/2024 18:54

If he claims UC, then he will be made to look for work anyway.... so I don't see anything wrong with that.
For those who saying UC is just for people that are unable to work.... that is not true. It is also for people that are looking for work. You can't live off of fresh air whilst doing so.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:54

Gazelda · 31/05/2024 18:51

But he's not looking for work, is he?

He's going to wait for his results before starting his job search. So at least 10 weeks away.

He's actively signed on with a events agency and has applied but waiting to be accepted on the events. He gets results 11th June.

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EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:52

But he's never worked @Lacky301 ?

Surely you could have anticipated this situation then?