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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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CadyEastman · 31/05/2024 20:11

flamebrick · 31/05/2024 16:57

He'll need to get his finger out if he wants a graduate job for August — the vast majority of schemes will have started recruiting in October/November and will have already made most of their offers. He needs to jump on Gradcracker ASAP as time is not on his side. If he fancies a graduate job and misses the boat for August, it'll likely be another year before he'd start earning (or at best, a January start)

Thanks for that @flamebrick. Have bookmarked that site for when DS is nearer to finishing Wink

showerjelly · 31/05/2024 20:11

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:09

He's signed up with a events agency I've already stated this.

Is that it?

No cv

One events agency?

jamimmi · 31/05/2024 20:10

I hate to say this but he's really behind on the job thing. DS due to.graduate this summer, fingers crossed. Started applying for graduate jobs last September, has one starting 1st October. He's back home and back at his summer bar job to fund his summer. Now paying us rent at his request. It's only 10% of his salary but we want him to save. Your ds needs to get applying for anything, but at 21 with no experience he may even struggle with bar work

listsandbudgets · 31/05/2024 20:09

Of course he can find a job - it may just not be one he likes!

We have Ukrainian guests. When they came they were beyond exhausted and one had a bad chest infection. I told them to rest for the first 2 weeks before they even thought of looking for a job - which they did. On the Monday of the third week they went to the job centre, on the Tuesday they went round the shops and hotels asking for work and landed interviews for cleaning jobs at a local hotel and started on the Thursday... 2 years later they're still there - one now working on reception as her English has improved so much.

If they can do that using then your son can get off his bum and get a summer job while he waits for his results and applies for something more permanent.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:09

He's signed up with a events agency I've already stated this.

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KickHimInTheCrotch · 31/05/2024 20:09

We had a new starter at work this week who has just finished uni. She applied for the job months ago and negotiated a suitable start date after her exams. Its not a graduate job but responsible and reasonably well paid. She just had to think ahead a little bit. 30 years ago when I finished uni I got a job in a pub and picked up various shifts around holidays and festivals. It's not hard for someone with half a brain.

caringcarer · 31/05/2024 20:08

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:47

I know that's what I meant but people have started benefit bashing and critisizing

I don't think people are benefit bashing OP. As many have said be edits are for those genuinely looking to find a job to tide them over until they get one. Your son doesn't sound like he's looking very hard. If he signed up to a job agency and took what they offered him he could probably start on Monday. He won't get any benefits for 5 weeks so quicker to get a job than sign on anyway. To get benefits as a fit single person they expect you to apply for 3 jobs most days. Has he even applied for any jobs since May 24th? He's really had plenty of time.

Byronada · 31/05/2024 20:08

My son isn't lazy

I disagree.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:07

Byronada · 31/05/2024 20:06

I was angry when I read this thread earlier. I've now just got home from a 10 hour shift and I'm exhausted. I'm 58 and I've worked for 42 years. I just want to weep at the idea you expect me to find your lazy son. You should be ashamed.

My son isn't lazy

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ToGinOrNotToGin · 31/05/2024 20:07

I left uni 4 year ago. I studied Paediatric Nursing
Nursing courses at the time required you to do university, alongside 37.5 hours unpaid placements in the hospitals (shifts, nights, days etc)
I had a part time job at McDonalds - due to their flexibility.
Some weeks would look like
Monday Placement 12hrs, uni work after
Tuesday Placement 12hrs, uni work after
Wednesday - full day uni, 6 hour shift at McDonalds
Thursday - Placement 12 hrs
Friday - Uni classes on the morning, McDonalds afternoon
Saturday - McDonalds, assignments
Sunday - McDonalds, assignments

I literately never stopped. But I needed money to fund my course as the loan was so low compared to accommodation costs.

When I finished I went full time at McDonalds until my NMC pin came through whilst also applying for full time nursing roles.
In the end I was told the job I was offered on Paediatric Intensive Care Unit was offered to me, over another candidate who got a 1st as well, because I worked at McDonalds. It was the only difference, on paper, between us. It showed resilience and time management skills.

What I am trying to say, without bashing you or your son, is a job now could be the difference between getting his dream job and not

Byronada · 31/05/2024 20:06

Fund not find!

Byronada · 31/05/2024 20:06

I was angry when I read this thread earlier. I've now just got home from a 10 hour shift and I'm exhausted. I'm 58 and I've worked for 42 years. I just want to weep at the idea you expect me to find your lazy son. You should be ashamed.

WayOutOfLine · 31/05/2024 20:04

My students tell me the best way to get work is to do temp work, sign up with an agency, a lot of hospitality companies take on students and they struggle when they all leave, so that would work where he is.

Getting a longer-term job in a supermarket or shop can be harder, mine have applied for jobs where 100 people are going for one job in Holland and Barratt or whatever, and the application processes take longer than the 'days' which people are talking about on here, most companies these days do not employ straight away, my teenagers have sought jobs and it's taken 2-4 weeks minimum to get employed in Costa or in shops.

Not saying he shouldn't try, I'm saying temp work is available on the next day often, whereas other jobs require more persistent application and can be quite competitive and if it's just to fill a gap, temp agencies are better- there's often temp warehouse work as well.

showerjelly · 31/05/2024 20:04

@Lacky301 If he doesn't have a cv, tell us where he has tried for employment?

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:00

Castleview6 · 31/05/2024 20:00

Not if he doesn’t get a job! What’s his degree in?

Physiotherapy

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Castleview6 · 31/05/2024 20:00

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:58

Yes ds may end up really well off despite the criticism on here

Not if he doesn’t get a job! What’s his degree in?

caringcarer · 31/05/2024 19:59

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:12

Exactly which is why I mentioned him claiming universal credit also people on here are saying they can get a job same day but it's not always that straight forward. Also ds has said he will take a random job until he finds one in his field

Both my son's walked into a job agency and started working 2 or 3 days later whilst looking for a job they wanted to pursue longer term. It really is that easy.

Hedgeoffressian · 31/05/2024 19:58

YABU. There are loads of jobs out there. He could EASILY get a job at the local supermarket to tide him over until he gets something more permanent. Claiming benefits should be the absolute last resort for those who really need it. I’m absolutely flabbergasted that the majority vote on this post is that YANBU.

Bellyblueboy · 31/05/2024 19:58

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:07

That's not what this is about it's about ds having some money whilst he sorts his career not a lifestyle choice

OP tell him to get a temporary job while he finds his career. I finished uni in may, temped though the summer and started my big grown up career job in October. Most of my friends did the same:

you need to explain to this man that he is int he real world now!! Why automatically go to benefits when he could easily get even a part time job to cover expenses while he career hunts?

you really are not setting him up for life! Benefits should not be the default position.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 19:58

AmpleFatball · 31/05/2024 19:35

Before leaving education (aged 24), I had little work experience - a few part-time, seasonal jobs but that was it. I was on benefits for a few months post-education, while job hunting.

I’ve been employed ever since and my salary crossed the 6 figure threshold years ago, and I’ve continued to get significant raises.

Do you think I should be kicking myself for not spending a little more of my youth working in a bar of whatever?

I’m not saying that getting some solid work experience as a teenager isn’t a good thing but it’s really not as important as you’re making out.

Yes ds may end up really well off despite the criticism on here

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caringcarer · 31/05/2024 19:57

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:02

I've spoken to him and he plans on sorting his CV then applying for jobs in his field but I think he just wants his results before doing anything and to make use of his accommodation as it's paid up until August. I don't want anybody to rely on benefits and I don't for a minute think ds does but I thought it would tide him over

He needs to sign up to a job agency and they even find the job for you. In the longer term he can polish his CV and apply for graduate jobs in his field but he needs to get some work on his CV or future employers will think he's lazy and give him a wide berth. Most graduates have been working alongside studying showing they can multitask.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/05/2024 19:55

SavingTheBestTillLast · 31/05/2024 19:51

I don’t think, correct me if I’m wrong, he can claim UC until the September after he finishes Uni.

Ok. I’ve just checked.
Thats not the case apparently, don’t know why I thought it was 🤪

CadyEastman · 31/05/2024 19:54

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:49

Of course yes I am pushing him to find a job which he does want but it can take time to find one so I'm hoping universal credit will tide him over until he finds one.

It really doesn't take time to get a job. Most places are desperate for staff.

There's no point in being picky. He needs to work.

Waitformetoarrive · 31/05/2024 19:54

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 19:50

It’s laughable when you put it like that. Imagine putting that on your CV… between end of exams to X month, waiting for degree results 😅

He probably will and think employers will think it is normal. Just read the OPs updates, I struggle to understand how people like this family get by in life.

AmpleFatball · 31/05/2024 19:53

showerjelly · 31/05/2024 19:50

@AmpleFatball did you claim benefits?

Yes - housing, council tax and JSA for about 3 months. Then I found a job in my field.