To push ds into claiming

Physiotherapy is an incredibly worthwhile course and essential to be taught to degree level. If you have studied it, or even considered it, then you know why it is. Podiatry is the same - clinical practice.

He doesn’t know if he’s passed? So that’s the problem, he might not have passed his degree. Has he really been concentrating that much on his studies if he might not even have passed? I think he’s not been telling you the truth op, it’s unusual to get tit he end of a degree and fail, there’s usually intervention before then and options earlier on.

Physiotherapy is a medical profession! 😜

He can claim the job seeker element of UC while looking for a job.
That’s what it is there for.
It’s not choosing to go on benefits instead of working.
£370/mo is barely enough for food, and utilities.

Sorry but to be honest you quite obviously have no idea of what physio involves. It most definitely does need degree level qualifications unless you want dangerous. Mistakes in your care . Physios don't just donwhat drs tell them, the assess, treat and manage conditions as independent practitioners.

Aw OP, sorry you’re getting a tough time! It was so lovely and generous of you to support your son financially through university.

Now that his course has ended it would be absolutely fair of you to let him know you can longer afford to support him - he is an adult and will need to figure out the next steps, whether he can quickly find a job or if he needs to claim whilst looking.

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not, sorry!

As a side note can he claim Universal Credit or indeed any benefits at the moment? Certainly when I graduated (which granted was in the days of income support) you couldn't claim as a student and we were technically students until the end of the academic year which is usually 31 August (can vary by institution) NOT when our exams finished. They had closed the loop holes that previous generations enjoyed of being able to 'sign on' each summer for the holidays. Seems strange that they identified that loop hole with legacy benefits and then reopened them with the replacement

My friend’s son was like this, she told him to find a job and he was turning his nose up at working in Tesco. She said, if you don’t take it I will take ALL your benefits but if you do take it, I’ll only take some. He took the job and got the message. Giving him money is enabling him.

Sure there should be qualifications in physiotherapy but universities should be for degrees in proper subjects. Like math, or biology, or history. Medicine obviously.

Isn't the simple answer to stop funding him the £450 a month and put that towards the council tax? If he's not propped up by you it's up to him to find money to support himself. He's an adult not a child and if he wants to chill out fine but it's time he stood on his own two feet.

He completed his course when, maybe a week or two ago, and doesn’t even have his degree yet.

Not sure why a degree in physiotherapy is funny?

He's been extremely busy with his studies

No doubt he has, but then so will most of the others, and at least among the students I know most of them work as well

And if he's "not lazy", then as already asked, how come he hasn't already applied for grad schemes, got a stopgap job or even prepared a suitable CV?
You mentioned that he'd "have to leave" when his accommodation deal runs out, but casual employers know and accept this - especially when they're desperate for staff as many currently are

Ok op just seen the update about what his degree is in. I am one. Fist off gradcracker won't be any use as it doesn't cover physio or other medical roles, he needs to get on the NHS jobs site https://www.nhsjobs.com/ and start looking for posts now. He doesn't need a CV as such he needs a profile on this to apply, like a cv but slightly different. The bad news is that most of not all of his contemporary students have been applying for months and most trusts will have filled band 5 riles for the year, certainly for up to winter. He will have been told this and to start applying as the unis all no this run job fairs etc. I have done several as part of our recruitment this year. Unfortunately with the current NHS budget cuts there are fewer jobs 2 for 200 applicants at out trust . He need to look now but unfortunately he may have missed the boat, so I would look for Healthcare related roles now

DS had zero paid work experience until he finished his A levels. He easily lined up bar work for the summer literally straight after his last exam. He worked there the whole summer before starting uni and returned to work there during the Xmas hols. He managed to get a 3 mth paid summer internship relevant to his degree last summer. Now he has just completed his 2nd yr at uni and has a month off before he starts his 12 mth industrial placement in July. This wasn't easily attained - he literally applied to numerous companies and went through multiple interview/assessment rounds and endured rejections over the course of 6+ mths before having 2 placement job offers to choose from - all for a sandwich year job. It is really competitive out there!

A DEGREE in physiotherapy? 🤣
and he cant find a job??

are you trying to drum up support of Sunak in weeding out monkey degrees? 🤣

If he's wanting any job I'd say the care sector would be the quickest way to get into work, once I finished uni I got a home care job straight away with no experience. It was my first job. I worked there for 6 months until I found something else. It wasn't great and I found it really hard but it was a wage. If he's wanting to hold out until he finds a specific job in his field I'd be pushing him to find a job for now rather than claim UC. If he's genuinely struggling to find a job then by all means claim UC. You know your DS best so as long as he's not planning on staying on UC for longer than he needs I think it's fine to apply and see what he's entitled to :)

I bet if you hadn't been subsidising him he'd have found work.

YABU to not have instilled a work ethic in him. I was a student for 6 years and every single holiday Easter, Summer & Christmas, I worked full time. During term time, I also worked part time, and some of the time full time (evenings and full weekends). I've been working since I was a young child (before child employment limitations were a thing).

Never had I a gap in my CV. Your son is now disadvantaged to have such a poor work history. Studying at Uni is no excuse to not work part time and in holidays, nor is physiotherapy a degree that makes it impossible to work alongside uni.

Is he serious about his future career? I cannot understand why he hasn't already been applying for roles or volunteering for sports clubs already.

My children are still quite young but both of them are really excited to turn old enough to get a part-time job.

Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp.

This is the question you asked and I think the answer is very clear - you are wrong to push him to claim benefits.

If he is staying in his accommodation until August till him to look for work in a large company like supermarkets, mcdonalds or wetherspoons. They often have space to transfer location so he is less likely to have to give it up when he moves back. This will tide him over until he can apply for graduate jobs.

The first question any employer will ask a fresh out of uni adult is what have they done since/outside of uni. They are unlikely to be jobs he wants based on his degree but will get him a reference and give him a way of showing some key skills such as time management, good communication working under pressure etc. It will pay more than he gets now and will help him in the long run. Even if he decides to apply for other stuff once he has his degree result it is easy enough to leave a job and start a new one. His results are not a reason for him to wait. His CV needs to stand out and he can use these types of jobs to fund him whilst he gets work experience if needed too.

I wouldn't be giving him a penny even if I had more than enough money to give it. He's an adult and needs to learn some independence and work ethic. I worked whilst at uni as did most people I know. I also had a grad job lined up before I got my results.

Surely he's completed some placements during his degree course? Maybe reach out to them, where they know him.

In my nhs trust, all grad jobs starting august/sept are spoken for. However, there are always waiting lists and looking keen is a good start!
There'll be plenty of summer jobs; kids sports clubs especially will be looking out for fit young people.

My DS may have some time off this summer. He is doing a very punishing degree. But I am not expecting the taxpayer to fund it.

He would my sister got made redundant aged 22 during covid and got nearly that living at home too.