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To wonder what’s the point when I’m left with this after bills?

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ReLOa · 31/05/2024 16:01

In a stressful job and single parent to nursery age child. I have 570 left after all bills and childcare and petrol, excluding food. What is the actual point in this?! We can’t do much at weekends and holidays are out of the question. I’m supposedly in a highly paid job (earn 70k) and I feel like giving up. Just been paid and looking ahead at the month I’ve already had to turn down some things like an adventure park day with friends as it was 28 pounds entry and a 35 mile round trip. I feel like I’m failing yet not sure what more I can possibly do?!

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YorkNew · 31/05/2024 16:46

OP could you divide your money into pots so for example £20 per month goes into a days out pot and £20 for Christmas and birthdays, £30 for clothes etc? Then you will be able to afford some treats and hopefully your expenses will even out each month.

ComtesseDeSpair · 31/05/2024 16:45

There’s this bizarre dichotomy on MN whereby if somebody on benefits says they only have £120 a week left after their rent and bills to cover absolutely everything else the household needs and they daren’t even think about Christmas because the idea of not being able to treat their DC makes them cry, everyone rages about disgusting the Tories are for thinking anyone can live on such a pittance and how awful life is for them; yet when somebody not on benefits says they only have the same amount to do the same, everyone rages about them not knowing they’re born and tells them how lucky they are to eat more than beans on toast.

Doyoumind · 31/05/2024 16:45

Your DC must be young for you to be paying that much per month, but it will go down when you get funded hours, and again when they are at school. In the meantime you are increasing your earning potential, building a pension, paying towards a property you'll one day own, and you do have plenty to feed the two of you.

I've been single since nursery years and had to pay for everything on a far smaller salary. I've always shopped carefully and generally always managed to have a little to spare.

Lots of people are struggling and many much more than you OP.

Pollipops1 · 31/05/2024 16:43

Seriously, people’s expectations are ridiculous. When I had my dc I earned 18k and dh £32k, our mortgage was £850 a month (in 2008). Yes, it was tight but we budgeted and I went back to full time once dc were in juniors to get my career back on track. Nursery is such a small part of life but it’s expensive short term. I don’t think you realise how lucky you are.

@TeenLifeMum But 50k in 2008 is more like 80k in todays money so more than the OP and take home would be higher as it was two earners vs one.

ilovesooty · 31/05/2024 16:43

You're on a decent salary.

You won't be paying nursery fees for ever. When they stop you'll be pretty comfortable.

Many people have to get by on far less.

NewName24 · 31/05/2024 16:39

OlderandwiserMaybe · 31/05/2024 16:10

Grabs bag of popcorn

Another thread on MN where someone on a higher salary is saying they can't manage.

OP prepare to be bombarded with posts telling you how to make one chicken last a week and to turn down your heating.

Honestly I'm sure you'll be fine. Just look at you regular outgoings and see if anything can be reduced - but If I have £570 left after paying out all my bills I'd be ok.

Exactly

and this
"The point" is that we work to pay our bills, put a roof over the family's heads and food on the table.

If you are on £70K, you are doing very well indeed.
Presumably there is also contributions from the dc's father to be added to that, plus child benefit ?
If you are able to pay a mortgage that will give you a long term asset that will increase in value, will give you security of tenure and will give you and your child a roof over your head, you are doing very well indeed.

Nursery years will be over very soon and look how much you will have then.

Perhaps have a little consideration for all the mere mortals who will never earn £70K, despite being senior in their careers.

Mindymomo · 31/05/2024 16:36

When we bought our first house in 1985 the interest rate was 15%, after bills, mortgage and food we had £5 left each week. It was about 2 years later that we could start going out and go on cheap holidays and another few years before we could consider starting a family.

WalkingonWheels · 31/05/2024 16:35

Bloody hell. I'm on 26k with a first class degree, Masters and PhD to my name, and felt bad for moaning I was struggling.

70k?! Poor dab.

TeenLifeMum · 31/05/2024 16:35

Seriously, people’s expectations are ridiculous. When I had my dc I earned 18k and dh £32k, our mortgage was £850 a month (in 2008). Yes, it was tight but we budgeted and I went back to full time once dc were in juniors to get my career back on track. Nursery is such a small part of life but it’s expensive short term. I don’t think you realise how lucky you are.

OlderandwiserMaybe · 31/05/2024 16:34

Unsurprisingly the nursery fees are your biggest bill. Luckily that one wont be for ever.
Once your LO starts school you'll find things get a lot easier.

Honestly @ReLOa you do realise many millions of people are managing at the moment on much lower wages than you?

Pollipops1 · 31/05/2024 16:33

£4200 take home pay

it’s likely the OP pays more than £50 into her pension

VickyEadieofThigh · 31/05/2024 16:32

"The point" is that we work to pay our bills, put a roof over the family's heads and food on the table.

What's the alternative - to give up and let those who carry on working pay taxes so that you don't have to?

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 16:32

ReLOa · 31/05/2024 16:24

Nursery 1,600 and mortgage 900!

So when nursery finishes you’ll have at least £1k more a month even if wrap around is £600 (likely to be less). You’re in a very good position.

GoldenHorse · 31/05/2024 16:31

How old is your child? Nursery should go down with funded hours or end altogether at school age. Are you planning on state education or independent for your child? If state, this is a short term issue as wraparound care will be considerably cheaper than nursery fees.

RedHelenB · 31/05/2024 16:30

70k is a good dual income so I can't see why you can't afford any treats on that salary

blacksocks33 · 31/05/2024 16:30

£570 for food and fun isn't a lot at all.. it's about £140 a week. Also being a single parent you have to pay for EVERYTHING on your own...
I completely see and hear you OP. I am a single parent, albeit much lower earner but I too have a very low weekly budget. I'm trying my best to be happy doing less... but it's tough. Just know you aren't alone ❤️

daffodilandtulip · 31/05/2024 16:28

£4200 take home pay

£1600 nursery (which will end soon)
£900 mortgage (which gives you an expensive asset)

Leaves £1700 for bills and food. Which is most people's take home pay.

Boomer55 · 31/05/2024 16:25

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 16:17

Just two of them though so good can be a lot less than £100 a week, we spend that for a family of 4 including a fussy toddler and a baby on formula plus all the nappies.

This. Not really a problem.

ReLOa · 31/05/2024 16:24

Nursery 1,600 and mortgage 900!

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ComtesseDeSpair · 31/05/2024 16:24

daffodilandtulip · 31/05/2024 16:17

She's already included petrol. It's £570 for food and fun for two people. If child is in nursery full time, it's basically teas and weekends.

I'm just looking for my violin.

Except that it’s not really just food and fun: it’s that plus laundry and cleaning products, nappies, birthday and Christmas presents, clothing and shoes, the odd haircut, replacing odds and ends in the home, occasional travel to visit family. And having less than than £150 a week for all of that doesn’t then leave much in the way for saving anything for emergencies. Just because somebody isn’t going to be knocking at the doors of the food bank doesn’t mean they’re deserving of mockery.

Gemmahearts94 · 31/05/2024 16:22

You must have quite significant out goings to have so little left at the end of the month? Debt?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 31/05/2024 16:19

You have a car, mortgage and job paying well over most people's, can cover gas, electricity, council tax, phone, internet, repairs, insurance, pension, food, clothing and everything else (except overpriced theme park visits and expensive holidays).

It'll be fine - and you'll be sitting on a significant asset at the end of it.

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 16:17

Caspianberg · 31/05/2024 16:14

£570 isn’t much tbf to op. That’s got to included food, petrol and essentials still.

£100 a week food nowadays (£400)

Leaves £170 for all petrol, transport costs, replacing anything broken, fixing things in house, kids and adults essentials, outgrown clothing, entry fees, etc.

Just two of them though so good can be a lot less than £100 a week, we spend that for a family of 4 including a fussy toddler and a baby on formula plus all the nappies.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 31/05/2024 16:17

Jegersur · 31/05/2024 16:13

570 left after all bills is pretty good. You earn double the national earnings. Nursery lasts only a short while, then it should get easier.

£570 gets nibbled away pretty easily between food and birthdays and unavoidable stuff, but it is just for a few years.

daffodilandtulip · 31/05/2024 16:17

Caspianberg · 31/05/2024 16:14

£570 isn’t much tbf to op. That’s got to included food, petrol and essentials still.

£100 a week food nowadays (£400)

Leaves £170 for all petrol, transport costs, replacing anything broken, fixing things in house, kids and adults essentials, outgrown clothing, entry fees, etc.

She's already included petrol. It's £570 for food and fun for two people. If child is in nursery full time, it's basically teas and weekends.

I'm just looking for my violin.

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