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To wonder what’s the point when I’m left with this after bills?

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ReLOa · 31/05/2024 16:01

In a stressful job and single parent to nursery age child. I have 570 left after all bills and childcare and petrol, excluding food. What is the actual point in this?! We can’t do much at weekends and holidays are out of the question. I’m supposedly in a highly paid job (earn 70k) and I feel like giving up. Just been paid and looking ahead at the month I’ve already had to turn down some things like an adventure park day with friends as it was 28 pounds entry and a 35 mile round trip. I feel like I’m failing yet not sure what more I can possibly do?!

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gamerchick · 31/05/2024 20:19

SleepingStandingUp · 31/05/2024 20:03

Where are you getting nappies from that cost £5 a week? Even when we were on shops own brand, it cost more than £10 a week for my twins.

Aldi nappies are pretty cheap and decent.

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:17

whistleblower99 · 31/05/2024 20:15

It is always the same posters racing to the bottom. Every post with a higher earner - you’ll see the same names. It is absolutely wrong that people like the op should feel so financially stressed. It does happen and punitive tax policy and childcare costs are harmful to women. Often forcing them out of the workplace: this then widens the gender gap. Bigger picture.

No one is "racing to the bottom" and childcare costs ARE ridiculous but that's not going to change overnight, so if OP is seriously struggling there are ways to cut back.

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 20:16

whistleblower99 · 31/05/2024 20:15

It is always the same posters racing to the bottom. Every post with a higher earner - you’ll see the same names. It is absolutely wrong that people like the op should feel so financially stressed. It does happen and punitive tax policy and childcare costs are harmful to women. Often forcing them out of the workplace: this then widens the gender gap. Bigger picture.

Totally agree

whistleblower99 · 31/05/2024 20:15

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:09

You have lost the point of her post!

WHY oh WHY is some who is gainfully employed and earning a decent wage unable to afford bubble bath! You called bubble bath a luxury! Give your head a shake!

Luxury is staying in a superlux hotel, dining on lobster and fine wine. It’s not bubble bath!

It is always the same posters racing to the bottom. Every post with a higher earner - you’ll see the same names. It is absolutely wrong that people like the op should feel so financially stressed. It does happen and punitive tax policy and childcare costs are harmful to women. Often forcing them out of the workplace: this then widens the gender gap. Bigger picture.

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 20:14

ReLOa · 31/05/2024 18:52

@CerealPonderer my mortgage is due to be paid off when I’m 70!

900 a month and only paid off when your 70? Are you an older mum or do you live in London? That's alot to be paying out per month for the rest of your working life. I'd consider selling and moving area to be honest. I mean the nursery fees are by far the biggest problem right now but that's still alot for the rest of your life practically. Unless you absolutely love the house or desperately need to stay in the area you are in I would consider moving. Even the nursery fees will be lower tbh. My daughters full fees were 860 a month and that felt alot yours is double. I'm guessing your in London or surrounding area.

Willyoujustbequiet · 31/05/2024 20:14

You earn twice what the national average is for a HOUSEHOLD.

Cut your cloth

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:13

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:11

It categorically doesn’t in this country. Your post is silly ! And tells me you have never lived/worked anywhere else in the world.

And you clearly have no idea what the reality of life on benefits is like, so you're spouting nonsense.

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:12

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:09

You have lost the point of her post!

WHY oh WHY is some who is gainfully employed and earning a decent wage unable to afford bubble bath! You called bubble bath a luxury! Give your head a shake!

Luxury is staying in a superlux hotel, dining on lobster and fine wine. It’s not bubble bath!

Of course she should be able to afford it. But if she's struggling that much, it's not a necessity to buy.

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:11

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:07

Of course it pays to work. What a silly comment. OP is a homeowner, that in itself is an achievement that people who can't work will never have.

It categorically doesn’t in this country. Your post is silly ! And tells me you have never lived/worked anywhere else in the world.

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:11

orangeleopard · 31/05/2024 20:06

I agree with you. I’m a single parent to a four year old and I cannot get my weekly shop below £100. Ignoring the fact that I’m vegan and he isn’t - if you take into consideration cleaning items, toilet roll, laundry, shampoo conditioner etc. Then foods for each meal and snacks and drinks. Then if you have pets, taking that into account. I see people say they feed a family of 5+ on £50 a week and think, are they solely eating pasta and cheese for every meal and wiping their bum on a leaf.

Who buys cleaning products every week though? I haven't bought any this week. Pets are a luxury as well, not a necessity. It's about choices some times.

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:09

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:05

As a single parent of one you really don't need to spend £40 a week on that stuff. Wash dishes by hand, there can't be that many with only 2 of you. A big bottle of Fairy liquid lasts me 3-4 weeks and costs £3. Bubble bath is a luxury not a necessity. Supermarket brand wipes are less than a quid.

You have lost the point of her post!

WHY oh WHY is some who is gainfully employed and earning a decent wage unable to afford bubble bath! You called bubble bath a luxury! Give your head a shake!

Luxury is staying in a superlux hotel, dining on lobster and fine wine. It’s not bubble bath!

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:07

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:03

I completely understand! When you work in a stressful full time job you need r&r. £570 / month is not enough for that. It’s just not. It doesn’t pay to work in this country. Have you thought about using your skills to take up employment abroad ?

The UK has this tall daisy mentality. People hate to see others doing well. Want to see them suffer like they do.

Go to a webpage advertising jobs in the Middle East, you won’t believe the packages on offer.

Of course it pays to work. What a silly comment. OP is a homeowner, that in itself is an achievement that people who can't work will never have.

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 20:07

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 19:59

I really hate when people on these threads say "why aren't you getting child maintenance?"

BECAUSE MEN CAN GET AWAY WITH NOT PAYING IT.

Only if they don't work. It can be taken from their wages otherwise. Regardless that's just one option. She has access to other help aswell hopefully she can use some of the childcare help available to her.

orangeleopard · 31/05/2024 20:06

ReLOa · 31/05/2024 19:10

@Ithinktomyselfwhatawonderfulworld how?! Washing powder, bubble bath, nappies, wipes, dishwasher tablets… that’s already the best part of 40 quid a week?

I agree with you. I’m a single parent to a four year old and I cannot get my weekly shop below £100. Ignoring the fact that I’m vegan and he isn’t - if you take into consideration cleaning items, toilet roll, laundry, shampoo conditioner etc. Then foods for each meal and snacks and drinks. Then if you have pets, taking that into account. I see people say they feed a family of 5+ on £50 a week and think, are they solely eating pasta and cheese for every meal and wiping their bum on a leaf.

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 20:05

ReLOa · 31/05/2024 19:10

@Ithinktomyselfwhatawonderfulworld how?! Washing powder, bubble bath, nappies, wipes, dishwasher tablets… that’s already the best part of 40 quid a week?

As a single parent of one you really don't need to spend £40 a week on that stuff. Wash dishes by hand, there can't be that many with only 2 of you. A big bottle of Fairy liquid lasts me 3-4 weeks and costs £3. Bubble bath is a luxury not a necessity. Supermarket brand wipes are less than a quid.

SleepingStandingUp · 31/05/2024 20:03

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 31/05/2024 19:43

Nappies are £5, wipes are 65p a pack, washing tablets are £10 but last a month, dishwasher tablets again 10 but last a month, bubble bath is £3 and lasts a month

Where are you getting nappies from that cost £5 a week? Even when we were on shops own brand, it cost more than £10 a week for my twins.

Saltyswee · 31/05/2024 20:03

I completely understand! When you work in a stressful full time job you need r&r. £570 / month is not enough for that. It’s just not. It doesn’t pay to work in this country. Have you thought about using your skills to take up employment abroad ?

The UK has this tall daisy mentality. People hate to see others doing well. Want to see them suffer like they do.

Go to a webpage advertising jobs in the Middle East, you won’t believe the packages on offer.

Chickenuggetsticks · 31/05/2024 20:02

It won’t be forever OP, in a few years you may find your wages have gone up and your bills have fallen substantially. It is shit though, it’s supposed to be a comfortable wage and you shouldn’t have to think twice about a day out. But it’s not forever, it will get better.

SleepingStandingUp · 31/05/2024 20:00

ReLOa · 31/05/2024 19:10

@Ithinktomyselfwhatawonderfulworld how?! Washing powder, bubble bath, nappies, wipes, dishwasher tablets… that’s already the best part of 40 quid a week?

How much are you using daily that you need to buy washing powder, bubble bath and dishwasher tablets every week? Nappies and baby wipes, I feel your pain but look at Mama brand on Amazon. Subscribe and you save even more, box of baby wipes will last you ages.

transformandriseup · 31/05/2024 19:59

how?! Washing powder, bubble bath, nappies, wipes, dishwasher tablets… that’s already the best part of 40 quid a week?

No way would that be £40 a week. Even if was using a dishwasher wouldn't be essential for two people and bubble bath isn't a necessity.

Beezknees · 31/05/2024 19:59

I really hate when people on these threads say "why aren't you getting child maintenance?"

BECAUSE MEN CAN GET AWAY WITH NOT PAYING IT.

NoSquirrels · 31/05/2024 19:58

Bibi12 · 31/05/2024 19:36

Yeah I get it but at 70k she's working in demanding job that probably took a lot of effort to get into. I think it's natural for her to feel a bit disheartened?

I come from country where childcare is heavily subsided and treated as important part of infrastructure. Women just keep their jobs and their salaries and its great for equality, economy and productivity. It's like that everywhere in Europe.

We need to stop normalising UK astronomical childcare costs and stop telling women they should be happy they are not starving when they earn great salary and pay a lot of taxes.
The problem is not women's attitude or their lack of budgeting skills. The problem lies with the system.

Many many posters have sympathised with the OP that it feels shit in the expensive nursery years. Of course she’s not unreasonable to feel disheartened. But that wasn’t your original point and so not what I was replying to.

Yes, it’d be nice if childcare was more subsidised. But in this country apparently we don’t like to vote for tax increases. So there’s no money for it.

Margorett · 31/05/2024 19:55

Oh dear , poor you !

JLT24 · 31/05/2024 19:54

I think the point is you are progressing in your career (even if it might not feel like it) and setting yourself up for a better future whilst covering extortionate nursery fees BUT only for a very temporary period of max 2-3 years.

Are you claiming everything you should be - child maintenance, child benefit, funded childcare and tax free childcare? £1,600 is HUGE so seems like you might not be??

Can you reduce any bills? Buy DC clothes from Vinted. You can go with minimal new clothes for a couple of years??

Have you looked into doing bank account switches? Really easy and can earn a few hundred - would pay for a few nice days out?

Can you put aside enough for one day out a month? It’s not much but it’s only temporary.

In 2 years time you’ll have an extra £1,600 a month (plus potential pay rises), you’ll have the lifestyle you want then!! It’s worth sticking it out!!!

NoSquirrels · 31/05/2024 19:54

WYorkshireRose · 31/05/2024 19:37

£570 wouldn't even cover our monthly food bill as a family of 3, nevermind everything else besides. It absolutely is not "loads" Confused

You are spending much more than the ‘average’ 3-person family on food, in that case.

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