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Mixed feelings towards friend - admiration/jealousy/frustration. AIBU to ask for advice?

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Acapulco12 · 31/05/2024 15:23

I went on holiday with a few friends a few weeks ago. We’ve known each other for a couple of years now and see each other every couple of months, and I liked them all beforehand, but the holiday showed me a different side to one of them in particular.

During and after the holiday, I realised I have quite mixed feelings and emotions about this friend. I really admire her, but don’t really like her as a person (and I don’t think she likes me much either). I just feel quite sad as well, because I doubt we’ll stay in touch, but I’m equally quite relieved that I probably won’t have to socialise much with her.

To give some background, my friend moved to the U.K. (where all 3 of us live) from Portugal around 10 years ago, basically with nothing.

She’d gone to uni in Portugal and decided to move to the U.K. for better job prospects. When she moved to the U.K., she started work in a coffee shop and then applied for jobs in government, which has led her to now have quite a prestigious job. I was so impressed by this, and yes quite jealous/envious.

Although she’s still quite junior in her role, her job is very prestigious and - more importantly - I’m sure she’ll learn a lot from it. She’s now fully settled in the U.K., with British citizenship, and has just bought a place with her partner.

Her life is quite hard in lots of ways e.g. her partner can be quite controlling and at times has been physically threatening towards her, her job is very stressful and demanding and she also has a long-term (minor) health condition.

Despite all of this, she’s continued to persevere and is doing very well. She is incredibly tough and resilient, and obviously a very hard worker. She’s also very intelligent, as she’s able to work out very quickly how to navigate situations (in work and life) and to understand what’s required of her (e.g. in stressful situations at work).

However, she is also quite impatient and direct, and can be quite self-absorbed (she barely asks anyone questions when with them and will very often just talk about herself and problems in her life).

I guess I’m asking how I can be more resilient and tough, like her? I’m proud of what I’ve achieved so far in life and I feel like I’m fairly resilient.

However, I’ve definitely had fewer challenges in life than she has (I didn’t have to move countries or learn a new language to have better economic prospects, for instance).

I think I feel ‘less than’ in comparison to her.I guess I feel a bit guilty that I haven’t needed to navigate as many challenges in my life. It’s a weird feeling, especially considering I don’t really know her that well - I know a lot more about her than she does about me, as she’s not really expressed any interest in my life at all.

Is there anything I can do to help with this feeling?

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Acapulco12 · 01/06/2024 15:08

5128gap · 31/05/2024 17:07

You need to tell yourself and remember, that this woman's story has nothing to do with your life. Her achievements, challenges and resilience are entirely irrelevant to your own and don't enhance or negate them. If there are elements of her character or behaviour you admire, you can take them as a role model if you feel they might inspire you. If there are aspects of her behaviour that annoy you and these outweigh her good points then don't continue a relationship with her. Above all, get her into perspective. If you want to develop some of your own character traits, focus on that.

You are absolutely spot on. Thank you. I do need to remember this, and to separate her life and achievements from my own life. I think I just felt quite rejected by her whilst I was on holiday with her, and this really hurt because we’d got on fairly well before the holiday.

As I’d had an unpleasant experience with her - and the other women - on this holiday, there is a part of me that regrets going on it. Having said that though, I also think that if I’d never gone, I would never have realised how much resilience I have. And I did enjoy some things about the holiday - it wasn’t all difficult.

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Acapulco12 · 01/06/2024 15:04

StarbucksQueen1 · 31/05/2024 17:05

Whilst she sounds strong and resilient and successful, she clearly isn’t as kind and compassionate as you- they are much better traits! I can’t stand being in the company of self absorbed people!
I do compare myself to people alot but her life doesn’t sound that great given how her partner behaves!
You don’t have to go through a trauma or hard life to be strong, every day life can be tricky! Cut yourself some slack x

Thank you! ❤️ That is very sweet of you to say and it means a lot. Generally I have very kind and tolerant people around me - family, friends, colleagues included. Given that, it was a bit of a shock to spend a week with her and the other two women, who were all much more direct and less supportive than what I’m used to.

I’m not at all saying that they owe it to me to behave in a particularly tolerant way, especially as they probably just wanted to enjoy being on holiday and to switch off and please themselves, which is of course absolutely fine. It’s just that I didn’t feel very included at all whilst I was with her and the other two women, and I wouldn’t treat others the way they treated me, so I felt uncomfortable and unhappy for a lot of the time I was on holiday with them.

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Acapulco12 · 01/06/2024 15:00

Happyinarcon · 31/05/2024 16:36

Her health issues suggest that she isn’t coping as well as you think. If she doesn’t start practicing some self care and cut down on stress I suspect those health issues will go from minor to major.

Yes that’s a good point - thanks. I feel like she takes fairly good care of herself, as she has good boundaries and is quite assertive about sticking to those. I do understand though that working in a stressful job, especially whilst having health issues, is not sustainable.

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RichTea90 · 31/05/2024 17:19

Do you actually want to be friends with this person? What is it about her that you like, or makes you want to be friends with her?

5128gap · 31/05/2024 17:07

You need to tell yourself and remember, that this woman's story has nothing to do with your life. Her achievements, challenges and resilience are entirely irrelevant to your own and don't enhance or negate them. If there are elements of her character or behaviour you admire, you can take them as a role model if you feel they might inspire you. If there are aspects of her behaviour that annoy you and these outweigh her good points then don't continue a relationship with her. Above all, get her into perspective. If you want to develop some of your own character traits, focus on that.

StarbucksQueen1 · 31/05/2024 17:05

Whilst she sounds strong and resilient and successful, she clearly isn’t as kind and compassionate as you- they are much better traits! I can’t stand being in the company of self absorbed people!
I do compare myself to people alot but her life doesn’t sound that great given how her partner behaves!
You don’t have to go through a trauma or hard life to be strong, every day life can be tricky! Cut yourself some slack x

Happyinarcon · 31/05/2024 16:36

Her health issues suggest that she isn’t coping as well as you think. If she doesn’t start practicing some self care and cut down on stress I suspect those health issues will go from minor to major.

Acapulco12 · 31/05/2024 15:51

Username01010 · 31/05/2024 15:41

Being ruthless, direct and self focused are often the qualities that make someone likely to succeed at something, as they are less emotionally invested in something and determined. Her background suggests she has had a lot of challenges so it is not surprising this may be some defence mechanism or driver for her

for instance perhaps a holiday for her is about her experience of travel and relaxation and she isn’t really thinking how you are, about making a human connection and getting to know you. That just means you are completely different people and different things drive you individually. If human connections mean a lot to you, she isn’t the right person to have as a friend as she can’t give you what you need. She may just want travel companions, not deep meaningful friendships. It’s ok for you to want more from a friendship too

Thanks for this - I completely agree.

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Username01010 · 31/05/2024 15:41

Being ruthless, direct and self focused are often the qualities that make someone likely to succeed at something, as they are less emotionally invested in something and determined. Her background suggests she has had a lot of challenges so it is not surprising this may be some defence mechanism or driver for her

for instance perhaps a holiday for her is about her experience of travel and relaxation and she isn’t really thinking how you are, about making a human connection and getting to know you. That just means you are completely different people and different things drive you individually. If human connections mean a lot to you, she isn’t the right person to have as a friend as she can’t give you what you need. She may just want travel companions, not deep meaningful friendships. It’s ok for you to want more from a friendship too

Acapulco12 · 31/05/2024 15:38

Yes, I think you hit the jail on the head @Newnamesameoldlurker - that really resonates. I’ll look up that theory, thanks.

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Newnamesameoldlurker · 31/05/2024 15:36

Sounds like she triggered a feeling of insecurity in you by acting more important than you (by taking no interest in you). I think you're being self- critical in thinking you need to be tougher. Some people are resilient and tough by nature and can thrive despite adversity. Others are more sensitive and have different good qualities. It's biological (look up the orchid/dandelion hypothesis)

Acapulco12 · 31/05/2024 15:32

TheSnowyOwl · 31/05/2024 15:29

I think you need to look more at why you feel the need to compete and compare with others, rather than be satisfied and content with yourself.

Thanks, that’s helpful and a good idea. I never have this feeling of competition and comparison with anyone else - it’s only when I was with her on this holiday. I think that’s why I find it so strange. I think, when I spent time with her on holiday, she made me feel insecure and unhappy because she would barely acknowledge me and never ask me about myself, and I managed that feeling by wanting to be more like her. Does that make sense?

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TheSnowyOwl · 31/05/2024 15:29

I think you need to look more at why you feel the need to compete and compare with others, rather than be satisfied and content with yourself.

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