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Partner wants full access to my phone whenever he has doubts?!

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Permanentlydazedandconfused · 31/05/2024 11:38

So my partner (or ex) has some trust issues from past relationships.
The past 2 months have been arguement after arguement due to him being convinced that I was cheating on him, not in the slightest bit true! he started regularly checking my phone - messages, social media, emails, photos etc. It all came to a head a last week and I left as I don’t want to be constantly under suspicion.
We’ve been speaking about trying to sort out our problems - one of his non negotiables is that he has full transparency with my phone, so whenever he is feeling insecure I should give it to him so he can look through it and reassure himself…he also suggested that he would take me to a counselor who would tell me that this is what I should be letting him do.
This is crossing the line for me, I like to keep some things to myself and don’t want to hand over my phone to be searched like I’ve done something wrong. Am I being unreasonable for saying no and not agreeing to compromise?

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TiredWired · 31/05/2024 15:37

Giving him full access to your phone and location at all times could easily end up escalating into something more sinister depending on his mental health. Sounds like he is trying to make his anxiety better by controlling you.

I understand his feelings of anxiety are hard to navigate, but he’s wrongly placing responsibility on you.

Exposure therapy is one of the best ways of lessening anxiety triggers, not eliminating things that cause anxiety. Sounds like he has either told his therapist a fabricated reality or they’re not a good therapist, if they’re really advising him to insist new partners give him on demand phone access.

Also beware anyone who tells you their therapist agrees with something they’re telling you, as a way of backing it up!

countrysidelife2024 · 31/05/2024 15:35

Run

Theunamedcat · 31/05/2024 15:35

Even if he was cheating literally all he needs to do is put their name as something else in their phone and auto delete their messages genuinely that simple

RiceCrispyCakes · 31/05/2024 15:31

Me and dh randomly go on eachothers phones to look stuff up sometimes but if the other person isn't comfortable with it we always give it back.

There's some personal things I might be doing I don't want him looking at (e.g googling a health issue or mumsnet bitching) and vice versa if he's on what's app with his mates sometimes he feels self conscious if I'm staring at his messages.

I think having personal boundaries in a relationship is important and if he doesn't trust you enough to respect that then it's not going to work out. It sounds controlling to me, imagine if he said I don't trust you in the bathroom by yourself you could be doing anything in there. 😂

Permanentlydazedandconfused · 31/05/2024 15:30

Funny thing is…I really don’t think he is/was cheating on me.
He wouldn’t have time in between the constant calls and texts to me!

I was feeling like a possession rather than a person.

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TinyGingerCat · 31/05/2024 15:28

Massive red flag - run for the hills. Been married 25 years and i have never looked at my husband's phone and he has never looked at mine. Your partner's "trust" issues are not your problem to fix. He is looking to blame you for his behaviour.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 31/05/2024 15:26

Sounds like he has a guilty conscience and is judging you by his standards. If he has no reason to ever suspect you might not cheating on him, yet is adamant that you are then it is most likely that he is cheating on you and trying to turn it around.

You've left.
Stay left.

AnniversaryPainting · 31/05/2024 15:26

He could become dangerous.

This is at best hideously unattractive behaviour and at worse controlling and abusive.

Leave.

Testina · 31/05/2024 15:24

Jesus.

The only reason I would agree to go to a counsellor to hear this, would be so that on the very very very slim chance that this “counsellor” is registered with a professional body, I could make a complaint about them.

Run for the hills.

My first husband had a longstanding prostitute habit, throughout our entire relationship it turned out. I have never looked through second husband’s phone, despite opportunity. Because if I had trust issues (and you’d understand if I did) they would be my issues. He doesn’t have trust issues by the a way… just a way to control you.

Please, you can do better than this. Keeping your dignity single is better than this.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 31/05/2024 15:24

If you don't trust each other (and freely allow privacy to each other too) - there isn't much of a relationship to preserve.

It is odd to be so insecure about someone you love... unless you are a cheat yourself. Can you trust this person?

A person so oddly obsessed with where you are and what is on your phone is hanging up the red bunting in armfuls.

Choochoo21 · 31/05/2024 15:23

OrigamiOwls · 31/05/2024 15:17

I'd really like to know this too - as it sounds like he wants full access to your phone but you don't have access to his? Do you think he has a guilty conscious OP?

Anyway, regardless... This is a massive red flag and it's time to run for the hills.

My friend is in a controlling relationship and he gives her full access to his phone because he says that he’s doing it because he loves her and has nothing to hide.

He says that she must not love him as much or must have something to hide if she won’t do the same.

I think a lot of controlling men do things like this.

Witchbitch20 · 31/05/2024 15:22

Fuck that.

Congratulations on getting rid.

Sharptonguedwoman · 31/05/2024 15:20

Permanentlydazedandconfused · 31/05/2024 11:38

So my partner (or ex) has some trust issues from past relationships.
The past 2 months have been arguement after arguement due to him being convinced that I was cheating on him, not in the slightest bit true! he started regularly checking my phone - messages, social media, emails, photos etc. It all came to a head a last week and I left as I don’t want to be constantly under suspicion.
We’ve been speaking about trying to sort out our problems - one of his non negotiables is that he has full transparency with my phone, so whenever he is feeling insecure I should give it to him so he can look through it and reassure himself…he also suggested that he would take me to a counselor who would tell me that this is what I should be letting him do.
This is crossing the line for me, I like to keep some things to myself and don’t want to hand over my phone to be searched like I’ve done something wrong. Am I being unreasonable for saying no and not agreeing to compromise?

Not unreasonable at all. In my book, this is control (he can call it what he likes). Phones are private. I would never look at DP's phone, ever.

RishiFinallyDidTheRightThing · 31/05/2024 15:20

I think you are very wise to end this relationship. You might want to check that he has not installed spyware on your phone or in your home.

OrigamiOwls · 31/05/2024 15:17

Theunamedcat · 31/05/2024 11:43

And will he return the favour? Or is it just you?

I would run block and not look back

I'd really like to know this too - as it sounds like he wants full access to your phone but you don't have access to his? Do you think he has a guilty conscious OP?

Anyway, regardless... This is a massive red flag and it's time to run for the hills.

FangsForTheMemory · 31/05/2024 15:15

He says ‘one small thing’ but it’s not small and it wouldn’t stop there.

Congratulations on getting rid.

AngeloMysterioso · 31/05/2024 15:14

I told him that my decision to end the relationship was final this morning and I wouldn’t change my mind as what he was asking wasn’t sitting right with me.
He responded with the fact I wouldn’t back down on this with ‘if you loved me you’d do this one small thing for me, it’s not a big deal’

It’s not a small thing. It’s a very big thing. It’s basically handing over all privacy save the thoughts in your head. And where does it stop? If he wants to know exactly where you are would he start demanding selfies so you can prove who you’re with? Air tags in your car and your handbag? Checking your bank statements? Fucking bonkers.

You’re gonna read about him in the news one day.

wellington77 · 31/05/2024 15:13

that is abuse! I can’t believe he genuinely believe that you need to see a councellor! He behaviour and demands are totally out of order! Get rid of him quick!

Choochoo21 · 31/05/2024 15:12

Absolutely not!
And anyone even hinting at seeing my phone or sharing my location would be gone and I’d not look back.

You did the right thing and you just need to stick to it.

No healthy relationship needs to look at each others phones, share their location or need to know where the other one is and who they’re talking to.

If it’s like this already, imagine what it would be like in 6 months time.

Coffeegincarbs · 31/05/2024 15:01

There's a solid reason his exPs are ex. He tried this shit with them and they dumped him ("she's crazy!")

If you were married I'd say be ok with sharing phone messages as you'd have nothing to hide. Unless you vent about your DH constantly to your friends!

persisted · 31/05/2024 14:53

LifeExperience · 31/05/2024 14:37

In a new partnership, no. If you get married, yes. My husband and I have complete access to each other's phones and always have, and I was actually floored the first time I read on here about phone privacy between intimate, life long partners. What is the point? If you have something on your phone that your partner shouldn't see (and vice versa) then there is a big problem with your relationship.

My husband is my partner, not my keeper. He does not get to check my phone, or read my post, or check my location or any other batshit controlling nonsense.
This is not because there is anything that would be a problem, it's because its none of his business.

I'm still an individual with a right to privacy and I would not tolerate anything else. You trust each other or you don't.

Permanentlydazedandconfused · 31/05/2024 14:44

@LifeExperience I have no issue with him picking up my phone using Spotify, Google or whatever he likes on there BUT I do object to being checked up on, or trying to be caught out.
I feel it would always make me feel like I’m not trusted and I don’t think any relationship can work where there is no trust.
Messages I send to my friends/family are private to me and I don’t need someone else reading them. I also have important personal documents on my phone that I don’t necessarily want to share with a bf of 1 year.
I show more respect for my 16 year old dad and would never dream of going through her phone to check up on her!

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Begsthequestion · 31/05/2024 14:41

LifeExperience · 31/05/2024 14:37

In a new partnership, no. If you get married, yes. My husband and I have complete access to each other's phones and always have, and I was actually floored the first time I read on here about phone privacy between intimate, life long partners. What is the point? If you have something on your phone that your partner shouldn't see (and vice versa) then there is a big problem with your relationship.

So you let your bloke read online conversations between your and your friends?

If so I hope they understand that anything private they tell you is automatically for his eyes too.

LifeExperience · 31/05/2024 14:37

In a new partnership, no. If you get married, yes. My husband and I have complete access to each other's phones and always have, and I was actually floored the first time I read on here about phone privacy between intimate, life long partners. What is the point? If you have something on your phone that your partner shouldn't see (and vice versa) then there is a big problem with your relationship.

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