To think I can leave my bins here?

I agree with you, as she never actually said it, and I had to specifically ask. However, she said she moved them, so that is the current situation as presented.

I suspect that they are moved, but only marginally, and still a smelly nuisance to the neighbour. Although this is her right, as confirmed by the housing officer.

I just rang the housing association and checked with the neighbourhood officer and he said he was very happy for them to be left there as it’s in my front garden and not in his so at least now I can just ignore his comments knowing I’m not doing anything wrong … This comment makes me think
OP is leaving them in the original place, annoying her neighbours 🤷🏻‍♀️

The "Yes of course" was her response to my questioning if she had moved them yet, as up until 10:40 she hadn't confirmed.

I imagine OP got their backs up, as she left her bins by her new neighbours pathway. I'm not sure how long it took for them to complain about it, but ideally OP should have moved them once the new people moved in. Hindsight is a fine thing though!

I do now wonder where they are, as OP has been rather vague.

OP’s words - I normally leave them next to the pathway/hand rail for next door

Yes of course, I completely understood right next to the pathway, the issue I have is as long as it’s within my space they shouldn’t be telling me exactly where they think they should go instead

Implies to me that OP has left the bins exactly where they were 🤷🏻‍♀️

I HAVE read her posts .. seriously, maybe you should read them again. At no point does OP say she has moved her bins. All she says is she can keep them anywhere she wants, especially after checking with her HA.

OP does repeatedly say that she understood the objection to it being near the boundary but doesn't see the issue with it being elsewhere in the garden.

Which implies that she has moved it away from the boundary but the neighbours are still objecting.

I HAVE read her posts .. seriously, maybe you should read them again. At no point does OP say she has moved her bins. All she says is she can keep them anywhere she wants, especially after checking with her HA.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/274034294205

Would this sort of thing work?

We are meant to take our bins out to the collection point. And return them. But people just leave them in the street. Windy days it's a disaster. Then we have trash everywhere. I personally can't stand them being out. I think people are bin blind. And it's always a pleasure walking past festering bins in the sun. Ours even have wheels on, so aren't exactly hard to move. It all started with one house just leaving them out, then it just multiplied as behaviour. Just saying this as just because everyone else does it, doesn't necessarily make it okay.

As they are on your property it's not so much an issue, unless they have a proper home. You could always ask if they would be so kind to put your bin out as and when needed.

Do you mean legally or ethically?

If you are being a good person, you will do your best to keep them as far away from neighbours property as you can whilst making them accessible for you.

Just because you have the right to have them directly next to their path doesn't mean that's the kind of decent thing to do.

She already has assisted collection, and the position of the bins has been agreed with the council.

OP said very near the beginning of this thread, that she had done exactly that.

Seriously, at least read her posts.

Contact the council about an assisted collection if you’re struggling to put them out. Save falling out with your neighbours.

YABU, have some consideration for your surrounds and your neighbour's surrounds and take them in.

Ha I've just been the other person on the side of this argument feeling annoyed that since our adjoining house has been turned into an HMO, they've started putting their overflowing bin in the front garden next to our front door. I'm working up the courage to ask them to use the alleyway like our previous (elderly) neighbour did because it is so depressing to have to come in and out of your house right next to a bin and it's already started smelling and it isn't even that hot yet. Obviously they have a 'right' to do what they want but there is also something about being considerate of your neighbours and community. Which is exactly the reason I was so sad when our lovely neighbour passed away and they turned a 3 bed family home into a 5 bed HMO with a constant turnover of neighbours that we barely know to say hello to, let alone have any real connection with like we did our previous neighbour who had lived there for 50 years. I think being community minded is something that benefits everybody, so I would personally try to take their feelings on board where possible.

I would just tell them that you can't do that because of your mobility issues - but if they really want this to happen they would need to move your bins to the another place and sort out on bin day.

It sounds as if the front garden is small and near the road?
It’s a tad strange that your neighbours sit in their front garden imo.

I do not like seeing bins outside the front of houses either and it can make the area look unkept and rough. Many of our neighbours keep their bins just inside their front hedge tbut the hedge hides them. Would it be possible to put them in a bin storage unit? You can get nice looking ones with grass growing on top? They look much neater than seeing the bins themselves?

we need a diagram

Yup. This. Make sure they aren't in their way. If they look an eyesore you could ask the neighbours to take them out and return. Then on bin day

My neighbours park their cars and walk right past their bins on the footpaths to get to their front doors. It's sheer grotty laziness in this street. I hate it.

Another observation from the Modern Day Britain:
My exH lives on a leafy street, opposite an equally leafy private school, mere 10mins walk away from mine.
His, like mine, is a street of Victorian terraces, same front gardens, same rear access; though the houses are considerably grander in size and all with the exception of two are owner-occupied.

Never have I seen bins left out on the pavement there. Never have I seen an over-flowing bin. Not one household keeps their bins in the front garden (though one has a bin store and a couple I wouldn't know due to hedges). The pavements and gardens are not strewn with rubbish after the collection day.

10 minutes apart but also worlds apart in this fractured society.
If ones surroundings are more like the second scenario, I understand why the bin blight doesn't seem like much of an issue. In fact, most of what is an issue for the working class people is straight over the head of the privileged.
If I had more money or an inheritance incoming, I too could buy my way away from other people's trash. Alas, venting online will have to suffice.

@IndigoLaFaye
Well, I suppose we can somewhat agree then. The fact that people keep their bins wherever/however "because they can" (like many on this thread) has nothing to do with the budgets or help not available.
On the other hand, the situation with the HMO arseholes around me has everything to do with the politics and where the budgets go. Come for a visit before you decide who to vote for. 😊

I'm not the only one affected by the slipping waste management standards - it's enough of a thing for the government to consider new regulations:

www.mrw.co.uk/news/government-planning-changes-to-end-bin-blight-14-02-2024/

In my area everyone keeps their bins out the front. I’ve never even thought about it being weird or gross 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sorry but it has everything to do with government and budgets. Not only what’s possible to get help with but also how much people have to work/their commitments elsewhere and their ability/willingness to help all comes back to politics. It’s not as simple as societal decay - like that isn’t influenced by government and the economy anyway!

You might not be alone, but you sure don’t live in London! Most people in London leave their bins in their front gardens or areas, and we aren’t slovenly or messy with no pride in ourselves or in our homes.

Just watch where your high horse is leaving its hoofprints and poo please.

And also
People don’t have the spare time to help and certainly aren’t interested in jobs that take 2 minutes.

It never was a 2 minute job - the helper would come round, say every Wednesday, put the bins out, maybe bring in some basic shopping, sweep the leaves or cut the hedge away from the path, post a letter or maybe mop the floors. Put on a cuppa and have a little chat.
I should know, as that's how I earned my pocket money at 13. There were ladies of retirement age doing as much. My Grandfather visited his ailing friend once a week to help with whatever.

If it's not at all possible these days (I sound old typing this but I'm in my 30s still) , has nothing to do with the government or the budgets - it's yet another sign of societal decay. Badly managed urban waste is a universal symptom of communities in socio-economic decline. It matches very well with what my eyes are seeing.