... to be over the moon that Trump has been found GUILTY on all 34 charges?

@speyside Would they have taken this award from the Niro in 2020? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/robert-de-niro-denied-top-broadcast-award-following-his-anti-trump-speech-outside-court-report-says/ar-BB1nroWL

Celebrities otherwise have been quieter too compared to 2020.

I feel for the Jurors. When he gets back in, will they be safe?!

There seems to be some perverted parallel in America: the more crimes you commit, the 'greater' you become.

'We all know the election was rigged'

Nope. It wasn't. We don't 'all know'. And it doesn't matter how often you repeat it - it's not true.

You live in a parallel universe of Trumpist propaganda. Every time you post something you make that more obvious.

It's absolutely terrifying.

Stop repeating the same bollocks to try to shut people up.

'Biden has undelivered to the electorate'

By what metric?

Immigration? According to the CATO institute "In the two years before Mr. Biden took office, the Trump administration released nearly 713,000 immigrants, or a little over 52 percent of the 1.4 million crossers. In other words, Mr. Trump’s policies resulted in far fewer removals in absolute terms and a slightly higher percentage of released border crossers than Mr. Biden’s."

https://www.cato.org/commentary/biden-cant-stop-immigration-time-embrace-it

Suggest you read beyond whatever Trumpian propaganda you're filling your head with. Immigration is a hugely complex humanitarian problem and it's not just the US that's struggling with it.

What about the economy?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-economy-biden-election-president-e3a153c9b0c615ea6e0f2afb91cdc785

"But the economic numbers expose a far more complicated reality during Trump’s time in the White House. His tax cuts never delivered the promised growth. His budget deficits surged and then stayed relatively high under Biden. His tariffs and trade deals never brought back all of the lost factory jobs."

Every incumbent from across the political spectrum in elections across the world this year is facing challenges around standard of living falls caused by the inflation triggered by the opening up of economies after lockdown.

Healthcare?

Trump "supported failed Congressional proposals to repeal and replace the ACA with weakened protections for preexisting conditions, reduced premium assistance, elimination of the Medicaid expansion, and a cap on all federal funding for Medicaid. "

Biden "proposes to build on the ACA by increasing premium assistance and creating a Medicare-like public option plan, which would be available to anyone and automatically cover people with low incomes in states that have not expanded Medicaid. He would also lower the age of eligibility for Medicare to 60 years, and supports increased federal funding to states for Medicaid during the economic crisis."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2770427

So, in other words, nothing intelligent or factual to contribute? Got it.

@speyside

clearly anti trump and very biased different media reported differently on that event dependent on republican or democratic and what state it originated from

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Have a nice day everyone!

clearly anti trump and very biased different media reported differently on that event dependent on republican or democratic and what state it originated from

I repeat he never called to arms it was taken by the degenerates as they wished don't blame Trump for what they decided to do.

for all we know the election was rigged even by the democrats nothing in american politics would surprise me.

However, unless you are an american with a vote it's up to America to decide not the Europeans.

Personally, with no axe to grind, I wouldn't want Biden as my leader with all his skeletons in the cupboard hidden for the moment and he's clearly now an aged puppet.

I listened to the state of the union speech.

You obviously didn't.

You've obviously paid attention to every single piece of propaganda in the right wing media suggesting that Biden's moments of forgetfulness or confusion - which by the way Trump has also demonstrated REPEATEDLY - are evidence of a complete loss of capacity. Of course they aren't.

@Wallaw The time to pull that trick has now long passed. Biden is on the way out. He has undelivered to the electorate. It is not only the MAGA types wanting him out. The OP is over the moon but some are laughing at her naivety. Does not it mean they are bots or wherever insults come handy.

Nope. Happy to listen to/read opposing views as long as they're informed and substantive.

And if you read back over the thread, I think you'll find I've contributed quite a lot of material. You might not agree with it, but it's generally pretty high quality.

No shit sherlock! Who would have thought it would backfired?

And do you have anything more to contribute than calling opposing views all that tirade of bollocks?

With the precise effect of: fuck all.

There will still be dog attacks. People (statistically children) will still die.

Been that way since I can remember.

Thoughts and prayers though.

Yes, it's very worrying, but from everything I'm reading, it looks, at least at this point, like while this might enflame his base, it's unlikely to expand it. I hope that's right!

Adding- Don't forget, a lot of the spineless GOP would probably really prefer to replace him with someone like Nikki Haley, but have boxed themselves into a corner where they have no chance without the 30% of the electorate that would flounce if they dared deselect the chosen orange one. They're stuck with him, so need to make the best of it.

My apologies if this has already been posted. Washington Post article saying Trump and the GOP are managing to turn this loss into a huge win. I truly fear for a world with Trump as the next President. I also cannot understand how voters in the US don't see how dangerous he is for democracy and for the future of their country. It's utterly demoralising.

If the election is very close, it's likely to be several days after the election before all the results are in as the counting of mail in ballots, which continues past election day, could change the outcome

Considering the controversies last time that's what some of us are concerned about

I honestly don't want to think what might be attempted if it really is that close, but however we cut it the situation's looking pretty toxic already

And this is exactly the reason people often think Trump supporters are toothless illiterates or bots.

Do you have something substantive to contribute?

Thugs like Trump and Johnson have indeed lowered the bar considerably. They are both the type of political wrecking balls that turn up at the end of an era. Clowns of chaos.

Be as delighted as you want. He’s still going to be president again 😂

Nothing can be worse than doddery old fool Joe Biden. Doesn’t even know where he is half the time 🤔 Wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t even know who he is.

Yes, we are seeing the erosion of democracy and it is frightening.

This is what's now been normalised in Trump's America

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-supporters-try-doxx-jurors-post-violent-threats-conviction-rcna154882

Ha ha good one

My radio was stuck on Diane Abbott issue and Trump’s ramblings and associated analysis was a more interesting reprieve

EasternStandard · Today 11:34

It’s been a bit more interesting than our domestic politics

Well, yes. A demented demagogue with 34 felony convictions, two more federal felony trials in the offing and another state one, to go with the one he's just lost against someone who thinks he drives a bus and it's 1977.

Wishy-Washy Rishi going "Neuur!" at Sir Cowardy Custard Flip Flop, going "Ha ha! You smell!"

A Trump moment that for me was so revealing of just what an absolutely tool he is was when he met the Nobel peace prize winner Nadia Murad during his presidency. She won a Nobel prize for her advocacy for victims of sexual violence during war after her whole family were slaughtered by ISIS and she herself was kept in a rape camp for months along with other Yazidi women and girls. There are Youtube videos showing the meeting and it's painful to watch. She made an official visit to the Whitehouse to make a plea for the US to help the Yazidi people. It was clear that despite it being an official visit - you assume he'd had some briefing - Trump had no idea who she was. She told Trump that ISIS killed her mother and her six brothers. His response? "Where are they now". She repeated that they were in a mass grave. He wasn't aware of her work or her Nobel prize - incredible really given that at the time she was a well known humanitarian speaker and advocate around the world. https://www.timesofisrael.com/you-had-the-nobel-prize-trump-asks-yazidi-activist-ex-is-captive-nadia-murad/

It’s been a bit more interesting than our domestic politics

I really don’t know who will win but the donations are an expression of strong will for some. Just reading this

‘Former President Donald Trump's campaign and the Republican Party raised $52.8 million in the six hours after Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts in his "hush money" trial, the campaign said Friday, a staggering total that represents more than half of what they raised in the entire month of April.’