... to be over the moon that Trump has been found GUILTY on all 34 charges?

I knew all that... if I just wrote "tried and jailed" then someone would point out that Christ was not jailed, he was sentenced to death.

I didn't mean to imply that all of those men were executed.

But the Republicans hold the majority in the House of Representatives—remember the recent immigration bill, which was stricter than any in a generation? Trump asked the Republicans to vote it down, otherwise he wouldn’t be able to campaign on immigration. And they did it—followed their cult leader and voted down the border bill that they had wanted, which was co-written by a Republican Oklahoma congressman, no less! You couldn’t make this up…

Yes, I agree with that. The thing is that the Israel/Palestine issue is unlikely to subtract voters in the states that Biden really needs, with the exception of Michigan. That seems to be largely a university/liberal issue, which is why the Russians are still backing Jill Stein. I know my own kids and, seemingly, most of their friends will hold their noses and vote for Biden in the end.

And RFK is tricky. He's certainly a worrying development, but I suspect as the campaign ramps up and he becomes more visible (and his family continues to be outspoken) his sheen will dim.

But I could certainly be wrong.

Edited to add - a lot of the stuff I listen to and read seems to back the theory that Trump's base is now set, and Biden's is still more elastic, which ultimately could make him or finish him.

I like this podcast a lot
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-focus-group-podcast/id1586423406

This is how I feel. As someone said, brave jurors. If he dose wriggle out of this on appeal, he’s fucking slimy enough, then he will totally gun for those jurors. And if he becomes president again, god knows what he will be capable of as he’s a nasty piece of shit who holds grudges and dosnt care about anything but his own ego. I think he’d happily bring the US down, like a toddler throwing their toys out of the cot, just because he can.

If Trump wins is on the Democrats. Things are much worse for the majority than when Trump was in. They had the opportunity and should have buried Trump in politics with common sense and competence. They are the ones in government and the amount of stupid non sense happening is astounding.

Yes, but lots of Democratic voters have promised to stay home because of the Biden Administration’s stance on Israel and RFK Jr is up and coming (the jury is still out on whether he will take more Trump voters or Biden voters—the fact that he is a Kennedy will likely attract lots of uninformed Democratic voters). Biden can’t afford to lose any voters either…

I honestly have no idea. There are so many variables, it's almost impossible to guess right now.

Between gerrymandering, the electoral college, disinformation, misinformation, culture wars, third party candidates etc., I think it's a tough but not impossible road for Biden. It's going to come down to probably about 10,000 voters in one or two states. That said, Trump can't afford to lose anyone and Americans are certainly showing ourselves to be really unhappy about the loss of reproductive freedom and women's health care, so that could matter.

Edited to add - the hijacking of the judiciary combined with minority rule does seem to be destroying America pretty effectively.

Trump will probably win. Buckle in. @Wallaw ?

I think the word "pan" there is telling.

Yes, two US presidents have committed treason. One resigned, and was subsequently pardoned by the next president. The other turned it into a shitshow and is trying to get back into office. The treason trial won’t even take place until after the election.

@Wallaw how do you think the US election will pan out?

Based on the interviews of Republican voters I have seen, a lot of Americans, women included, don't believe that women can make good political leaders. Not surprising since women's rights are being taken away and the US is sliding toward something out of The Handmaid's Tale.

Have you both noticed how easily disprovable almost all of this is?

@Anneofa1000days

I'm an American voter. Can you give me some evidence that he really loves America?

A US president committing treason.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21768668

I was thinking this too. He wasnt a bad president and he really loves America. I dont think that everyone that voted for him was toothless hicks that people like to portray as Trump voters. Cant see how "Over The Moon " you are unless you are a voting American in the first place.

What if 'something happens to him in jail' like it did with Epstein.

Well, I'm American. I'm pretty up on current events. And I'm keen to know, specifically, what's not competent about her?

I know there are quite a few people who don't like the fact that she's 1. black, and 2. a woman, 3. a black woman. But other than that, what about her is not competent?

Kamala is an extremely competent, successful former Senator / California Attorney General / State Prosecutor. Watch her Senate Hearing contributions in the Judge Kavanaugh confirmation hearings to see what a no-nonsense ball-buster she truly is. Unfortunately, there are two huge elephants in the room when it comes to Kamala, which is a real shame in 2024.

I think there is a lot you haven't noticed about Trump but you'll probably get another chance to see what is to be lost by his becoming president because, unfortunately, he is probably going to win. Then, good luck ever trying to unseat him from power because he doesn't respect the US Constitution and will probably try to rule for life. Sadly, if he doesn't win his fanatical supporters will probably burn the country down at his behest.

I'm amazed the jury had the nerve to find him guilty and fear for their safety because firstly Trump will be encouraging his followers to go after them, like he has with judges, prosecutors and his political opponents and secondly because when Trump takes office he will feel justified in taking his revenge -- he's already said he will seek vengeance on all the people who have wronged him.

Biden is not a good alternative, I'll give you that. The Democrats should realize it is vital that they find another Obama type leader because Trump is being set up to win and this trial is going to be the justification for a true reign of terror when he takes office.

‘Exactly what is not competent about Kamala Harris’

American approval ratings may give you a clue.

That’s a brilliant article, thanks for sharing.

Because Trump committed this crime with the help of his lawyer, Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen also got convicted of this crime and has already served his prison sentence. It’s Trump’s turn to face justice (yet sadly, he won’t see the inside of a jail cell).

11 July. But it’s a white collar crime and his first offence, so jail isn’t going to happen. Plus all ex-Presidents get 24/7 Secret Service protection, which would include prison protection. Would be a logistical nightmare for the prison.

Exactly what is not competent about Kamala Harris?

I'm sure that's part of it, but it's so much more complicated than that, including the dissolution of unions, the outsourcing of jobs, right wing talk radio, etc.

But the fact is, the vast majority of the demographic of voters who support Trump, have for years, chosen politicians at their local, state and presidential level who were against the democratization of healthcare. Those red state senators, congresspeople and governors had (and to some extent still have) the power to make things better for the people they are elected to serve. Getting people to vote against their own interests has been a speciality of the Republican party for a long time.