... to be over the moon that Trump has been found GUILTY on all 34 charges?

Going to prison for making a hush money payment? Lunacy.

I've heard legal experts agree on 6-12 months prison sentence. I'm betting on 18 months.

Any serious person who looked at the details of the charges and the trial would not be celebrating. Far from it. I can’t stand Trump but this is a very dangerous precedent. All those celebrating should be aware that it will massively backfire.

Every other agency of law and government (all anti-Trump) passed on this case as they thought it was absurd. The DA, Bragg, used ‘get Trump’ as part of his election campaign. No one has ever been charged with paying hush money EVER in NY, where soft on crime policies mean rapists and violent criminals go free every day.

It’s not illegal to pay hush money. Rich men have been doing it forever. There needed to be an underlying crime. And no one has specified what that was. The jury was given 4 different options to pick from. And Trump wasn’t told what they were until Wednesday. The defence didn’t get to speak last, and they hardly needed a prosecutor, the judge was so nakedly biased. The trial should never have been held in Manhattan, the most anti-Trump place in the US.

This trial would never have happened to anyone who wasn’t called Donald Trump, and would never have happened (just before the election) if Trump wasn’t a presidential nominee.

Rejoice all you want, but you’re not on the right side of anything here. Biden only escaped charges recently because he was labelled a ‘confused old man’. He showered with his pubescent daughter against her will, and has enriched his son and other family members to the tune of millions. A supine press has given him a free pass on everything - including his history (and v recent, some of it) of egregious racism. He is currently circumventing a ruling of the Supreme Court who told him he couldn’t wipe billions of dollars of student loans (pass them onto working class people).

The worst thing is that this has crossed a rubicon in a country already fatally and divided by a clearly senile Biden and his whipping up of hate towards people who don’t vote for him. Just the other week he told black graduates they had no chance of succeeding in America that white people hated them. EVERYTHING is about hate, division and cynical identity politics (see also ‘trans’ obsession and the elimination of women’s rights under Title IX - which I wonder how many UK women are even aware of)

Now watch and see Republicans think ‘fair’s fair’ and bring charges against Obama, Bill and Hillary for matters such as Afghanistan, deleted emails and so much more.

Only those with a very basic grasp of American politics (and that is most people in the UK) and those who can’t see past their own ‘orange man bad’ blind tribalism could be celebrating this.

You're welcome.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-milley-execution-incitement-violence/675435/

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I think it's one of those things that it makes some sense to think but I wouldn't say it out loud except to my husband (or strangers on the internet?) but I don't think someone was "unhinged" for thinking it. I don't think they were suggesting putting together a mob to go get him (like he did for Pence).

AFAIK Trump kept Melania and Barron on a separate floor of Trump Tower when Barron was a baby and all his kids have said that he never really did Dad stuff like change diapers, throw a ball around, attend their sports events.

I feel it'll be a fine or something.
Most people think he won't go to prison.
Be interesting to see what happens to him.

It might be better than being a known sex offender in general population like Trump would be. But it would not be "good", you'd soon find yourself losing the plot a bit, no matter how many books they give you.

Must have changed your life 😂

Really? Can you quote your sources please regarding the execution of his political rivals? Thanks.

Completely off topic, but if I ever went to prison I would only want to be in solitary confinement. Give me some books and it sounds good to me. Being in the general population does not sound fun at all.

Perhaps also because the way they have to behave to secure those millions of dollars means that a lot of decent Americans will go nowhere near the process?

Well, Trump spends an awful lot of time discussing executing his political rivals for treason, and might possibly soon have the means to do so. I haven't heard him espouse much concern for their innocent children?

Before Trump's first term, this was not normal political discourse. He bears responsibility.

My God,what a horrible thing to say. You'd deprive his innocent 18yr old son of his father just because you don't like him? Disgusting,and yes,unhinged.

I don't think fines are at play in this case. The judge will be limited by sentencing guidelines which, I think (could be wrong), are prison/home incarceration or community service.

As much as I'd enjoy seeing Trump locked up, I do agree that prison wouldn't be a great outcome for many reasons, but Merchan seems like an extremely fair judge (I read a lot of the trial transcripts), so I'd be surprised if he went with incarceration. However, the repeated violations of the gag order, general demeanor in court towards the jurors and complete lack of remorse will not work in Trump's favour.

Adding - the fact that Michael Cohen was sent to prison for the same crime, and spent a month and a half in solitary confinement might also factor in.

Let’s just hope it’s “real” community service, like your example of litter picking. We don’t want another “running celebrity golf tournaments” community service like OJ got for domestic violence against Nicole.

Sending him to jail would play into his hands. Much better for the judge to say that he doesn't believe DJT has the funds to pay an appropriate level of fines for his crimes and sentence him to a considerable length of time litterpicking or similarly humiliating (in DJTs eyes) community service. He would hate the public statement that he's not well off. I think livestreaming his community service to prove he was really doing it would draw quite an audience.

Of your examples of democrat issues, you do realise that the summer of love was 55 years ago? A bit of a reach.

RFK JR is 70 so he isnt young and he is a conspiracy therapist and anti vaccine promoter so he wouldnt be a good candidate, but its his name and who his Father and Uncle was that he would rely on to get votes.

😂😂alternative cures? you mean drinking/injecting bleach and shining a light up the arse? 😂
the election was not rigged. this has been investigated. if you are still flogging that dead horse, I suggest you find some new arguments
yes we know he has support as did bojo in the uk. do you know who else had lots of support? the bolsheviks when they killed so many children and innocents during the revolution. the communist party when they perpetrated the culture war. putin. saddam hussein was wildly popular. Robert mugabe. Hitler. all popular. doesn't make them right and doesn't mean their supporters were in the right.
no one is intimidated by him. we are just terrified of how utterly dumb and incompetent he is.
if you read this link you will see the US economy was on trend and nothing to do with trump
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-45827430.amp
he was never going to start new wars, he was too busy trying to hide from bin fires he started in his own back yard!

making ridiculous allegations just makes you sound even more batshit. I am no fan of Biden, that we can agree on. the American people deserve better than either of these losers.

maybe do some reading outside of fox news or newsmax or whatever shit excuse of news site you are getting your info from?

My point is that we cannot lay this at the feet of the Democrats, who are in the minority. They wrote a strict, bi-partisan bill with a conservative Oklahoma congressman, which would limit access and help sanctuary cities, but Trump told the Republicans to vote it down, to ensure that things don’t improve at the border and don’t improve in sanctuary cities before the election. So he can campaign on how lax immigration is. The Democrats offered the strict legislation that they all claim that they want, and the Republican majority House voted it down. So no, I wouldn’t say that this is the fault of the Democrats.

@GimmeGin

I can’t comprehend how the USA can’t come up with two better candidates for the presidency.

it’s a massive country. There must surely be better prospects than those two old duffers.

Because you need millions and millions and millions of dollars. It limits the pool significantly.

In the UK it's not much better. Sunak Vs Starmer.

I believe they were elected democratically? Also, immigration is a big concern and this exploded under Biden. There is not wonder a bill was made more restrictive than before. These are genuine concerns for voters. The sanctuary cities are overwhelmed. Crimes from gangs crossing the borders have spooked people.

My point is that jail may not hurt Trump chances of being elected.

I can’t comprehend how the USA can’t come up with two better candidates for the presidency.

it’s a massive country. There must surely be better prospects than those two old duffers.

It’s unbelievable that anyone would vote for Trump. He is a nasty sexist mysoginstic pig. A complete liar and unapologetic about it! But his conviction will just make him even more popular.

Go Figure! As our American cousins would say!