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Found out my husband is using a chat porn site

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Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 30/05/2024 16:21

My husband knows I despise porn. He also claimed to hate it too with a passion. I noticed during an argument a few months back that he didn't seem as hateful of porn. I asked outright if he watched and he basically said I was stupid to even consider it. I was typing in Facebook on his phone and noticed "fap" came up as a suggestion from his search history. I clicked and it was a porn site. I then browsed his history which showed one called "chaturbate". I clicked and saw that it's like a live chat and stream site. My heart is so destroyed by this. I found out on Monday but have kept quiet about it. I told him that I have bought him a thoughtful gift for father's day, "you are such a great husband and father. Always faithful and not tempting yourself by looking at other women online" he then smiled and seemed embarrassed. He got up to check his phone and I knew he was making sure to delete all of his history. I went on his phone later on and all searches were gone.

I'm so disgusted by this. We know that the porn industry is one of exploitation and mostly "non enthusiastic consent". We are against sex trafficking of any kind. The conversation clearly struck a cord with him. He's been contrite and sweet ever since. He has no idea that I know, but I can see the guilt all over him.

Things that make this worse:

  • my husband keeps going out with or to his sister in laws house. They went out to a castle and he messaged to say people thought they were a couple. I just didn't appreciate that at all. I would never have thought anything of him and his sister in law until that message
  • after an argument a few weeks back, he said he was going to take the kids to said sister in-law. I told him it made me uncomfortable. He laughed in my face and told me he couldn't believe I was jealous and that he just wants the cousins to be together. He went despite knowing how upset I felt
  • we had a discussion that same evening whereby I told him I was unhappy. He mentioned he was definitely not watching porn and that I need to make him feel good more often. How sister in law made him feel like a good dad. I feel he only said this because I mentioned that the two of them together was making me uncomfortable.

From his search history, he viewed porn that very same evening.

I've been trying to ignore it and move on, especially as I see a genuine change in him since I made him feel guilty on Monday. I believe he will not view porn again now, but still feel so broken that he did and that it was one where you could live chat to people. I'm now left alone (he's gone out with the kids again but this time his brother is there instead of sister in law). Being alone in the house has suddenly brought all the sadness back. I'm not sure if I should confront him or not. Am I being unreasonable to want a divorce over this? I don't think I would go through with a divorce, but I'm struggling to get past how I feel.

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FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 16/08/2024 06:38

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 30/05/2024 16:57

He just seems so down about it. He still seemed angry after our last argument

He is tranferring his guilt into anger at you because you caught him both doing something he purported to hate, then lying about it.
Now that you know, he isn't going to stop, he'll either be more furtive, or he'll do it in front of you because 'you know, anyway'
I'd be a bit concerned about the visits to you sil. The ow always makes theman feel good about himself and dissatisfied with his current lot.
Sorry to be so harsh, but...

Borninabarn32 · 16/08/2024 06:21

Porn use is pretty normal among most people, especially men, but also women. Masturbation is perfectly normal and using things that make that easier/more enjoyable is common, it's no different to a sex toy imo or, if it's the corruption that bothers you, a Hollywood film. The whole film and tv industry is built on exploiting and abusing women and children it seems.

Chaturbate is a regular pop up from porn hub, it doesn't necessarily mean he's actually using that specific site. But interacting with other people is where the line is drawn for us, you can watch videos, but you can't engage in sexual activity, even online, with another person.

I find it really strange you have an issue with him seeing his family member, and it does smack more of you being controlling than him being unfaithful. I'd be incredibly insulted and angry if DP accused me of shagging my sisters partner.

NonsuchCastle · 16/08/2024 02:09

Charlijade94 · 30/05/2024 18:05

It quickly becomes difficult using your imagination, especially for men who get turned on by visual things, hence why porn is popular among men.

Have you ever thought about letting him record you having sex/sending him some raunchy snaps?

FWIW, I would be really hurt too, more so because of the lies. if he can lie about this, what else has he lied about

No! She shouldn't let him "record you have sex/sending him some raunchy snaps"! She already doesn't trust him. How can she trust him to keep those snaps private or use them against her in some way? Terrible idea.

Butterleigh · 31/05/2024 18:12

@Mumoftwinsandasingleton

All men look at porn . It's just looking .

MightyGoldBear · 31/05/2024 18:02

Coshei · 31/05/2024 16:40

@MightyGoldBear
All of this is from the OP’s initial post on this thread:
I noticed during an argument a few months back that he didn't seem as hateful of porn. I asked outright if he watched and he basically said I was stupid to even consider it. I was typing in Facebook on his phone and noticed "fap" came up as a suggestion from his search history.

He got up to check his phone and I knew he was making sure to delete all of his history. I went on his phone later on and all searches were gone.

He's been contrite and sweet ever since. He has no idea that I know, but I can see the guilt all over him.

From his search history, he viewed porn that very same evening.

Plus the insane jealousy over the sister in law.

What healthy relationship includes regular phone checking and guilt tripping, and trying to control who the parent socialise with (within the family)?

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What do you think of the partners behaviour?

Scorbet · 31/05/2024 16:52

I can see it from both sides. If it is important to her, she feels betrayed.

But then, you cannot spy on someone all the time. Firstly because it doesn't work. And it is unrealistic to think opinions never change, or that he'll never look.

In the OP it says 'we are against sex trafficking' - no, no, no, you as an individual are against it. He's his own person, unfortunately.

The only way to guarantee your partner never ever looks at any kind of sexual content is to be single, because anyone can browse google on the loo.

Coshei · 31/05/2024 16:40

@MightyGoldBear
All of this is from the OP’s initial post on this thread:
I noticed during an argument a few months back that he didn't seem as hateful of porn. I asked outright if he watched and he basically said I was stupid to even consider it. I was typing in Facebook on his phone and noticed "fap" came up as a suggestion from his search history.

He got up to check his phone and I knew he was making sure to delete all of his history. I went on his phone later on and all searches were gone.

He's been contrite and sweet ever since. He has no idea that I know, but I can see the guilt all over him.

From his search history, he viewed porn that very same evening.

Plus the insane jealousy over the sister in law.

What healthy relationship includes regular phone checking and guilt tripping, and trying to control who the parent socialise with (within the family)?

MightyGoldBear · 31/05/2024 16:07

Coshei · 31/05/2024 16:00

I can accept different opinions and boundaries, but there is a controlling element to the OP which I find quite uncomfortable.

What bit feels controlling to you?

Coshei · 31/05/2024 16:00

MightyGoldBear · 31/05/2024 15:52

It is perfectly acceptable and healthy to uphold boundaries that feel authentic to the OP and her relationship.

Just because they differ to your own personal values and boundaries doesn't mean they don't deserve respect.

OP s partner is welcome to continue using pornography but op is stating she will not continue a relationship with him because it goes against her values. She is very valid in that choice. He is choosing pornography over a real life partner he always knew where she stood on the matter.

I can accept different opinions and boundaries, but there is a controlling element to the OP which I find quite uncomfortable.

MightyGoldBear · 31/05/2024 15:52

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It is perfectly acceptable and healthy to uphold boundaries that feel authentic to the OP and her relationship.

Just because they differ to your own personal values and boundaries doesn't mean they don't deserve respect.

OP s partner is welcome to continue using pornography but op is stating she will not continue a relationship with him because it goes against her values. She is very valid in that choice. He is choosing pornography over a real life partner he always knew where she stood on the matter.

KreedKafer · 31/05/2024 15:41

He used to watch it when we were first got together. He chose (without my opinion) to stop watching it

Yeah, of course he did 👀

LizzieBennett73 · 31/05/2024 15:39

All you've ensured OP is that he'll be far better at covering his tracks in future.

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MightyGoldBear · 31/05/2024 15:21

TheTartfulLodger · 31/05/2024 09:56

Why do men naturally leak semen or have wet dreams in their sleep if they haven't had sex or masturbated in a long time if no man has to ejaculate ever? Why is nature making it happen naturally if it's completely unnecessary?

So leaking semen and wet dreams would still happen through arousal. Leaking semen is to lubricate in preparation for sex/masturbation wet dreams would occur from arousing dreams. Neither of these have to happen although erections are all part of a healthy body with good blood flow/age permitting and naturally occur throughout the night.

The body actually re absorbs the sperm it never has to actually leave the testicles. Obviously for reproduction is the one purpose of ejaculation. Women are actually the ones who have anatomy designed purely for pleasure no other purpose - the clitorus.

It is purely society that has peddled this myth that men need to masturbate and orgasm at such a higher level than women. That without this it would be such a detriment to them.There are some studies to suggest regular ejaculation can help in lowering chances of prostate cancer. The same way there have been studies to show eating less red meat can lower chances of cancer. Its about living a holistically healthy balanced life.

Plenty of monks who have taken a vowel of celibacy/no masturbation live long healthy lives. It's not about condemning masturbation it can absolutely be healthy but society has peddled a very unhealthy and incorrect information on what is a healthy amount and the importance it plays.

Lots of people still believe blue balls is a real thing. That men have too much testosterone that means they cannot be held accountable for their actions. They can't be expected to have no sexual restraint or discipline. It's a mindset and entitlement that needs to change. It's very dangerous. And does inform the whole boys will be boys attitude where we excuse men and boys whilst blaming women.

NCMD · 31/05/2024 11:35

An ex of mine had an account on that website. Be mindful that they can spend real life money for "tokens" or whatever they're called to send to the cam girls to perform specific acts. Hard to tell now if he's deleted history but I'd be wondering if your husband had an account on there and if he did what his purchase history was.

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TheTartfulLodger · 31/05/2024 09:56

MightyGoldBear · 30/05/2024 18:41

This is entirely incorrect men aren't "more visual" at all. Many studies have proven this. This is purely down to entitlement. Lots of women and men masturbate without the need for any visual stimulus. Whilst porn is common its not healthy or "normal"

On the visual aspect We typically see women decorate their homes spaces themselves. Whilst lots of men are happy to have a TV and sofa hardly any decoration. They are not more visual. And while we are at it. Blue balls is a myth too medically no man has to masturabte or ejaculate ever at all. Neither are men more sexual than women. It is purely socialisation and entitlement.

Why do men naturally leak semen or have wet dreams in their sleep if they haven't had sex or masturbated in a long time if no man has to ejaculate ever? Why is nature making it happen naturally if it's completely unnecessary?

TheTartfulLodger · 31/05/2024 09:51

It may be just me but I always wonder if people may have unrealistic expectations in a partner where occasionally looking at porn is concerned. Also believe that we can't realistically expect other people to have the same boundaries as us and never ever deviate from them ever, because even people with shared values are only human. My DP is only human. In isolation It just wouldn't shock or suprise me if I discovered he looked at porn a few months ago.

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 31/05/2024 09:42

Thank you all so much for your comments. They have truly helped me gather my thoughts and have good arguments in my head for why this is wrong for our marriage. I ended up discussing porn with him again last night. I mentioned how disgusting it is that some men can watch 100 men ejaculate onto a woman and somehow find that arousing. He nodded along and said its disturbing. I then told him outright that he knew he was watching that kind of awful content. He confessed and said he doesn't know why he watched it. Said he is willing to do anything to keep us together as a family. I've said that I'll give him one more chance but if he breaks my trust again, I will 100 be out. I mentioned that he's been demeaning towards me in the bedroom, less caring about my sexual experiences and orgasms. He agreed that he's become ungrateful to have me but that he will now change. I'll have to see. I had a terrible father so I'm fully prepared for the worst mentally and also fully prepared to keep my word and leave if it comes to him watching it. He's mentioned that he's happy to put a lock on his phone which will prevent him watching porn. I've declined this offer

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Olivegardenishome · 30/05/2024 21:45

MightyGoldBear · 30/05/2024 18:41

This is entirely incorrect men aren't "more visual" at all. Many studies have proven this. This is purely down to entitlement. Lots of women and men masturbate without the need for any visual stimulus. Whilst porn is common its not healthy or "normal"

On the visual aspect We typically see women decorate their homes spaces themselves. Whilst lots of men are happy to have a TV and sofa hardly any decoration. They are not more visual. And while we are at it. Blue balls is a myth too medically no man has to masturabte or ejaculate ever at all. Neither are men more sexual than women. It is purely socialisation and entitlement.

Thank you! I always say this but get told I’m wrong, that men are more visual. The home decorating analogy will really help me articulate my point in the future.
Entitlement guised as biological needs!

piningforautumn · 30/05/2024 20:18

He sounds disgusting. I'd be much more worried about his shady behaviour around SIL (messaging you about them being mistaken for a couple) than anything else, but none of it's good. Definitely wouldn't believe him regarding his stated distaste for porn, after this.

DontKnow1988 · 30/05/2024 20:18

Wow your updates paint a very grim picture. He sounds sleazy and horrible. I wouldn't be up for sex with him either, he just sees you as a hole to entertain him, he clearly has no respect for you (or women generally).

You can do better. Much better. Even just on your own, life would be much nicer.

StrawberryCucumber · 30/05/2024 19:47

He sounds more and more sleazy the more your revealing, and tbh Id find it very suspicious that he's always hanging around SIL when she just happens to be there on her own

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 30/05/2024 19:36

DontKnow1988 · 30/05/2024 19:15

There must be a backstory here? I have never quizzed my DH on whether he watches porn or checked his phone. How does an argument about porn come about? Why would you even ask him if he watches it?

The SIL detail is...strange. where is BIL in all this?

Backstory- my mum was living with us for a while. Hubby was sleeping alone downstairs on the sofa. It seemed at first he was protesting but then suddenly said how great it was because his back pain disappeared. He has work early in the morning, so we generally left him at around 10pm so that he could sleep. In his search history, he was viewing from 10:30pm. He won't be able to view now that we're back in bed together, but he's changed massively since before sleeping on the sofa. He doesn't have an opportunity to watch porn now that he's back with me in bed. I just don't feel like ill ever be enough for him. He's desperate for oral and coming in my mouth. This is also what was in all of his searches. He made it out as if vaginas are boring. I honestly feel so sick about this. I have 3 young children, the oldest loves her dad. BIL is always working when he goes round (he works on weekends up until 6pm)

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Scorbet · 30/05/2024 19:33

DontKnow1988 · 30/05/2024 19:15

There must be a backstory here? I have never quizzed my DH on whether he watches porn or checked his phone. How does an argument about porn come about? Why would you even ask him if he watches it?

The SIL detail is...strange. where is BIL in all this?

OP says she opposes porn ethically

Only she can decide if it's unforgivable enough to warrant divorce. I really think it's a battle to police your partners porn use.

If you don't even know, and have to coax them and search on devices - then presumably it's not affecting life that much.

Is it worth splitting up? The next 10 men you date will probably look at some type of explicit content at some point in their life.