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Would you leave your DH to go on these trips with kids ?

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holsquestions · 30/05/2024 07:16

I've recently had to have a career break due to absolute burnout. My H is self employed and was unable to pick up any home stuff at all, so I was trying to manage absolutely everything on my own, whilst working full time in a senior ( well paid ) position. I have two kids under 5. I also have a chronic health condition that's very serious.

In any case, I've left the workforce for now, but I do plan to return next year. I need to heal and recover for now.

My family live abroad, so I've recently taken my children on a couple of 1 week trips to see them. Life in the UK is still quite lonely for me. I still do everything on my own ( think bed times, dinners, cooking, house work etc etc ). But I just don't work right now on top of it.

Anyway, my family have suggested going away for a couple of weeks in the summer together. My H can't make it because of work, but he can go later on in the summer. H gets just one week in summer, we usually go for 6 days or so with the kids.

I would really like to go on this trip with my family and think it would be great for the children also. But I just feel a bit bad about leaving H. Would you do that ? I really need support and company at the moment and it's difficult to get that at home right now.

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Mrsjayy · 31/05/2024 06:57

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

How can you love this man how can you find him attractive in any way a grown adult who refuses to do any washing it takes 2 minutes to put it In the machine, how is any of his actions loving and caring he wants you home to clean the house and be his safety net.

holsquestions · 31/05/2024 06:51

I know guys but why do I feel guilty ?

He needs my support I guess.

I think I will go buy I'll feel bad.

I'll try to leave him with everything done, but I will feel bad.

Leaving him has always been an issue for us because he thinks it's important for families to always be together. I do as well however I've always had to travel for work and I've always gone back home regularly because I don't have any family in the UK. I did have a lot of friends when I was at uni and working etc in the UK, but since we've all got married and have had kids etc, everyone has moved around and I don't see anyone much anymore.

So for me my main social network is my family and my husband's family. I'm starting to get to know the mums at my daughter's preschool ( she starts school in September ). But these are very very new connections.

Anyway point being that he's always had a problem with how much I travel. I have done it a lot less since we've had kids. But of course now I'm on this break from work, why should I stay home every half term break on my own with my kids? If I can sometimes come and stay with my parents, my kids get to see their cousins and are learning about a different culture etc. also, during term time I'm literally alone, the entire week with my kids. It's so depressing sometimes. He comes home at 8:30-9 pm. Leaves the house at 6 -7am.

I also just think that's the deal when you marry someone who's not from the UK. He thinks it's me not wanting to create a solid family unit.

In any case, I think I will go, but I'll feel bad about it. Like I usually do.

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Ames74 · 31/05/2024 06:49

Oh OP I really feel for you. Have this two week holiday with your family and don't feel guilty. You need it, your family are paying, and it won't stop you going away with your DH later in the summer.

He'll cope on his own - one person doesn't generate much housework or washing, and he can buy ready meals if he really doesn't have time to cook.

I hope you can find more happiness and balance going forwards.

BoxOfCats · 31/05/2024 06:28

What the actual fuck am I reading here. He literally only has himself to look after and he can't even do that?

You would be vastly better off without him.

Codlingmoths · 31/05/2024 06:13

You’re staying with family right? Tell him single men have houses and eat food as well as jobs, and you aren’t leaving to come home until you’ve video called and he’s shown you the tidy house, as you’re not the cleaner and if you’ve taken the children away looking after himself is the BARE MINIMUM FOR AN ADULT.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 31/05/2024 00:50

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

By "struggling with housework" he means "not doing any housework", right?

A man whose family is away should be able to keep on top of the washing up, take the bins out and wash his own pants.

He's telling you that you will come home to a week's worth of his dirty laundry and a sink full of dishes.

What a prize wanker he is.

brunettemic · 30/05/2024 23:25

Yeah, definitely. My DH is a teacher and he’s taken the kids away in school holidays for trips, albeit shorter ones but the point still stands.

Windinmyhair · 30/05/2024 23:22

Do you have any say in the choices he makes about work? Could he work less or is he choosing to work the way he does?

Did he give a shit that you were signed off because you were burnt out?

He basically seems to have no respect for you or how hard you have been working for the family. The fact that he can't cope without you for two weeks, not because he will miss you and the kids but because the house will get messy (HIS MESS) and the laundry won't be done (HIS PANTS), is pathetic.

Go, and use this as time to re-evaluate this relationship, because it seems to be putting your mental health at risk.

OliveWah · 30/05/2024 23:19

YANBU, you should definitely go for the full 2 weeks, although I'd be tempted to make it longer!

What about if you arranged for the whole house to be deep cleaned the day after you leave, and again the day before you return home, so he doesn't need to stress about housework too much. WRT his laundry, surely a grown man can manage to wash enough pants, socks and shirts to see himself through a week or two?! Failing that, you could arrange for a laundry collection and ironing service to stop by a couple of times while you're away?

I don't think you should have to arrange anything, but given that he's making you feel guilty, it might be worthwhile putting a couple of things in place to negate his arguments against you going on this (much needed and well deserved) trip with your children.

I hope you do go, and have a wonderful time!

Lucyccfc68 · 30/05/2024 22:37

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

All the more reason for you to go away, but not for 2 weeks, go for bloody 4 weeks and leave your lazy, selfish, useless DH to get his arse in gear and manage his job and the house at the same time.

You absolutely deserve the break and he deserves to be taught a very strong lesson.

Lucyccfc68 · 30/05/2024 22:34

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She wouldn’t have had to give up work - through complete burn out - if her DH had pulled his weight. They both worked full time, but on top of that she also did all the housework, childcare, life admin etc.

Maybe if he was left at home for a few weeks and had to juggle cooking, laundry and cleaning the house with his job, he may finally understand what his wife’s life has been like.

arethereanyleftatall · 30/05/2024 22:26

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

Genuinely op. How did you not laugh in his face?

This grown man has just told you he sees you as his maid. Is this not ridiculously embarrassing?

I know it's harsh and horrible for you to realise, but, he can't give a flying shit who it is, he just needs someone to do his laundry because he's incapable of it.

That is embarrassing. And it's even worse that he thinks it's fine to say it.

You need to set the wheels in motion to leave op. You cannot be modelling to your children that housework is women's work.

Codlingmoths · 30/05/2024 22:21

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

He should be focussing on his family and his struggling wife, but he’s not, so no one gives a rats arse what this selfish fucker thinks. Or his mum. Look in the mirror op and remind yourself - you are worth care, love and support. You deserve respect. You are your children’s everything and they need you healthy.

itsmylife7 · 30/05/2024 22:11

It's none of your mil business, she can go and look after her useless son while your away.

Go for the two weeks and have a really good think about what you're getting out of this marriage.

YOU need to take care of YOU.

Onedaystronger · 30/05/2024 22:01

This sounds really tricky OP. From what I can gather for a long time your H has focussed on work and left you to juggle work, kids, housework and all the mental load that goes with it. Quite understandably you burned out, and he did not step up to support your recovery, leaving you having to quit your job or go under.

By taking issue with having to take care of himself and the house whilst you're away he is clearly showing that he's not capable of juggling the things he expected of you when you were working. In fact given that the children will be with you it's even more pathetic.

I'm cautious about crying LTB, but please do prioritise your recovery and take care of yourself because if you do decide that your marriage isn't right you will be in a stronger position if you're well enough to work. ATM he's got a live in housekeeper, nanny and PA to help him focus on his career- he should be prepared to share those roles to make room for you to work when you are able to.

I'd hazard a guess that life would be a lot less stressful without him.

Chocolateorange22 · 30/05/2024 21:58

Go for it. I take my kids away in February half term with my family. DH stays at home and works as we don't have enough leave to cover all the school holidays otherwise. Then in the summer he takes the kids to his parents for a week and I'm home alone working. I've also thrown my husband to the wolves by jetting off for a week when the kids were 1&3. They all lived and my husband even managed to not burn the house down. Who knew they could parent and function?

ErrolTheDragon · 30/05/2024 21:45

How much housework does one grown man generate FFS?

And as to your MiL ... as the saying goes, who made her the boss of you?

Happyddays · 30/05/2024 21:39

Tell your MIL to mind her own bloody business.
What a shower.
You are being abused and controlled.
Get home to your parents for a couple of months. Take the rest.

Olika · 30/05/2024 21:06

Adult man isn't capable of taking care of himself? WTF!

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 20:49

I bet it's my mother in law who's feeling sorry for her son having to sort his own washing out etc.

I've always gone back to see my family very regularly, even before we were married / kids. Every couple of months or so.

When we got married she said that now we are married and have kids I can't be doing it as regularly. Fair enough, I don't go as often as it's not practical, however, she shouldn't be the one telling me this.

In any case, I'm sure she won't approve and will make it known.

Now I feel bad, like I am doing something wrong.

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Mintchocco · 30/05/2024 20:39

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 11:39

Sounds similar indeed ! My H has never even taken them anywhere by himself!

He has no idea what it's like to get them both out of the car on his own.

When I was working I did go on work trips but his family rallied around to help him. He managed a couple of pick ups on his own when he finished work early and his mum and sister / brother were there to help him make dinner and put them to bed.

No one ever helps me! They live 5 minutes away. I would love for someone to come, even once a week to have dinner with the kids and I.

In addition they were up in arms whenever I needed to go on a work trip, because my children need me and it's not fair to leave them. It's been a terrible year. Beyond exhausting and frustrating. I can't win either way. I work and need to leave my kids and that makes me a bad mum. I don't work for a bit, that makes me a lazy mum who's not contributing.

All the while my health is massively suffering. No one cares.

No one cares because unfortunately this is what is expected of mothers and society continues to enforce this message.

I am hopeful my DD does not end up like it - but a really good starting point is to rebel against it even at an individual level, so please take the time you need and do not feel guilty - it is what I have started doing,

You are a person outside of being a housemaid and a mother and you deserve to look after yourself as well.

Noseybookworm · 30/05/2024 20:10

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

Is he really saying that as an adult man, he is unable to do his own laundry and cooking and clean up after himself for 2 weeks??? Honestly, he should be deeply embarrassed and ashamed of himself.

Happyddays · 30/05/2024 19:58

His priority is having his skivvy at home.
Please go and take every bit of support you can.
He is not supportive of you, does not help, gets more rest, despite you being post-partum. He is grumpy.
Your well being does not figure.
Go to your family and stay as long as you can.
He is not good man.
He is a selfish arse that has reduced you to an appliance for his convenience.
A good man would be delighted for you.
Tell your family the truth about is treatment of you.

EverybodyLTB · 30/05/2024 19:54

Again. I’d be looking at my options. I think your ‘D’H has contributed to your burnout and is either a moron who can’t work a washing machine, or is abusive and sees you as a maid.

holsquestions · 30/05/2024 19:27

Spoke to him in more detail today and he thinks two weeks is just too long to be away and that he's struggling with house work etc. apparently the house is now a mess and laundry is running low etc.

I am away at the moment for a week. ( not a holiday but just a visit to my family home ).

So he doesn't like the sound of me going away again for two weeks.

He says I should be focusing on our family holiday instead...

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