Fall out with Grandson

Well done op, I hope his parent are really thinking about what you said and are going to get him some help. Good luck x

Well done, Op! Handled really well. I hope it is a wake up call for the parents and they will look into getting professional help.

Well done, OP!!

Well done op. I hope he takes a big look at himself and apologises

Well done @LadySmurf hopefully they listen and you will have changed the pathway your GS was heading to.

I am so glad you have stuck up for yourself OP.
It sounds like the parents have taken a bit of a back seat with parent and discipling and had let things slide.
Hopefully it's been a wake up call that they all needed.

The thing is, all animals are physical with their young to teach them right from wrong and keep them in line. Society is on the verge of collapse because kids haven’t been taught the difference between right and wrong early enough and are essentially like unsocialised chimpanzees, extremely dangerous. In another hundred years, we’ll probably all be living in the jungle again. It’s evolution in reverse.

@gardenmusic sadly I don’t think they are goading. I think they are the parents of men who many women come on here to complain about as spoiled, entitled, childish and angry partners.

If you can punch your gran with no consequences over a threat, then abusing a partner in a relationship isn’t going to be a thing they worry about.

Rosscameasdoody

I have given up with the apologists - I actually do not believe them. I think they are goading.

Fighting ? What is wrong with you ? It was an unprovoked punch to the stomach. That’s not fighting, it’s assault !! You may not be defending the child, but you absolutely are blaming the victim. What did you expect her to do sit him down for a cup of tea to discuss it ?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/28251614/boy-12-four-more-youngsters-arrested-suspicion-rape/?utm_source=sharebar_app&utm_medium=sharebar_app&utm_campaign=sharebar_app_article

A 12 year old, a 13 year old and two 14 year old.
Perhaps the male violence apologists would like to come back and tell us that they're the real victims.

I wish I could live to see the day when perpetrators of violence against women were universally regarded with disgust and shunned...when we will be spared the current situation, of an endless procession of male abusers (including high profile men) largely escaping consequences and their wrongdoing overlooked and indulged.

It would actually be the best service we could do for young boys like the GS, to ensure that they get an overwhelming message straightaway that abuse is unacceptable and that if they continue to indulge in it they will be shunned and despised by everyone. But I am not hopeful when I look at this thread.

I read here nonsense posts with statements like 'love and hate are intertwined' which are abuser speak. Not that those stating them are abusers - but being an apologist for the abuser is not much better, they have decided to stand with the abusers against the victims. If this is how they really think then they have swallowed the abuser Kool-Aid.

I believe that it is possible to understand why someone acts the way they do (trauma, bad childhood, etc) but still condemn their violent behaviour!

As @cerisepanther73 so wisely says, many people have terrible, traumatic upbringings, but do not resort to violence as a result. We should never use their history as a reason to excuse violent behaviour, but perhaps we should be looking at why they resorted to violence, and couldn't control themselves, when others, with just as bad childhoods, can. Then maybe we can prevent more traumatised children becoming violent adults.

But the answer is NOT letting them get away with violence. The victim in this OP is @LadySmurf, and the failure of some posters to acknowledge this, and their attempts to make her responsible for the behaviour of the violent, near adult, male, is disappointing to say the least.

I couldn't agree more, @Cantalever.

WearyAuldWumman
Thank you for sharing your terrible experience on here - it must be very difficult to read this thread with the no-hopers continually making excuses for a young thug. I hope you have not been triggered by taking part, and that you eventually found some peace after the attack you suffered. Guessing that the apologists for injustice are more upsetting than anything. Take care. Sending virtual hug.

@HollyKnight

Horrifically disturbingly twisted sick 😫 fuck case the 14 year old teenager male who strangled and stabbed and raped his maths teacher,

Like one poster said highlighted there is often an excuse 🤔 about the factors reasons for why the violent male teenager or violent abusive toxic male the pertradater committed his crime such as the classic one he came from bad background or his on the spectrum of some kind or he surfer's from poor mental health wellbeing,

and they never show remorse,

A lot of teenagers or grown ups have come from dysfunctional troubled backgrounds however they manage not to kill murder or and rape anyone,
despite their difficult upbringing

I am one of them came from extremely traumatic childhood, brought up in care homes cause my birth mother was severely mental ill, later on my adoptive mother who was lovely died young from cancer in my mid teens ect etc,

I find extremely offensive that their behaviour 😤 of violent males in our society is so often excused as Cause they had a difficult childhood,
as a factor for them murdering someone commiting domestic abuse violence sexual assaults rape,

Well join the bloody queue i had a real shit 💩 childhood at times too,
Just like others have had too in past,

It doesn't give anyone a excuse who commit Horrific crimes against society to have their criminal sentences reduced to ridiculous lengths of justice ⚖️ times,
because of the gullible naive male violence apologists enablers down players narrative,

It's a load of bullshit 💩 and bollox. !!!

There was a 14-year-old in America who strangled, stabbed and raped his maths teacher in the school bathroom.

I suppose he just needed a hug and some understanding.

@LordPercyPercy

Just looked up the Grandmother Sue Addis murder trial in which her teenage grandson stabbed killed 17 times,

Why the fuck is her Grandson allowed 🤔 to when he went to court trial last year, allowed to come to Court dressed as like he was a Ninji head covering warrior heading into battle?

Why is entiled to hide his face therefore hide his real identity in front of the worlds media press coverage then?

Why is allowed to hide himself in the shadows with cloak of anonymity from the full glare of the world's condemnation and anger,
why is his feelings protected then so much? 😡

What are other posters thoughts on this then?

Hopefully there were plenty enough photos of this Arsehole of grandson in the national newspapers who committed the ultimate atrocity against his lovely sounding grandmother,

Bellaboo01 simply cannot see that her attitude is part of the problem. Victim blaming at it's worst. No one has to take being a punch bag. Retaliation IS perfectly understandable and this case grandma didn't even give him the kick to the goolies that he deserved, just a slap. If little shits like him knew that if he lashed out someone would lash back maybe he'd keep his fists to himself and then maybe some future girlfriend would be spared the domestic violence he is clearly heading for. 14 is old enough to know that punching a woman in the stomach is very wrong.

You are an adult and he is a child!!
At work about three years ago , it was during civid times anyway, a fourteen and a bit year old boy kicked a male member of staff in the testicle. The staff was off for 6 months and had to finish work. He still has complications from that injury.
I won't give any more details out except to say this child was taller and broader than thr staff and finished his assault by spitting on the staff as he lay in agony in the floor.
Never mind, he is a child ( ffs!)
'Children' can and do serious injuries to people.

You are an adult and he is a child!!

I'm tearing my hair, now. These stupid, dangerous idiotic women just cannot absorb this -

He. is. not. a. child!

Do yourself a favour - enlighten yourself - request a 14 year old boy to get angry, shout swear and punch you in the stomach.
See if it feels like a child hit you.
See if it shocks you and hurts.
I swear they are on a wind up.

A strong fourteen year old boy punching a woman in the stomach doesn’t need to be a ‘prolonged attack’. One well placed punch can do a lot of damage. And as we’ve already seen on this thread, in a younger woman could cause miscarriage. As has been explained to you several times the’ fight or flight’ response kicks in and you do what you need to do to protect yourself. Calling the police isn’t always an option. Sometimes you have to defend yourself - to be honest, this doesn’t even sound like that, it sounds more of a reflex. Perfectly normal and not an indications that OP is violent.

*You slapped your Grandson round the face?

You are an adult and he is a child!!*

It's concerning that this is the first thing you are concerned about and comment on from the OP's posts.

You have focused on the reactive slap done in a fight/flight situation and not on the unprovoked punch by a young male on an older woman.

Male violence is a huge problem.
From some posters we can see why.

@WearyAuldWumman you're absolutely not taking over. The OP has gone quiet anyway, and yours has been a very important voice on the thread. You're someone who has lived this.