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Fall out with Grandson

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LadySmurf · 30/05/2024 06:30

Recently I was asked to look after my two grandsons 14 & 8. The 14yo can be a handful with his behaviour and language, but we had a lovely time together, I took them out for the day and they wanted to sleep over. The next morning, 14yo was stroppy and swearing - I asked him to stop and not talk like that. The 8yo said “Mum said if you’re naughty they’ll take away your Xbox for a week” well it was like a red rag. He started shouting and swearing at me - then he punched me in the stomach. I’m very sad and horrified to say, I smacked his face in a reactive moment. When his parents came, I explained what happened and said sorry to him. They said he would apologise the next day - but nothing.
They took him home and now a month on, I’ve not had any contact with him, only the rest of the family.
I saw him yesterday when I visited their house. I said hello and asked how he was? He ignored me and told his brother he hates me.
Its his birthday next week - I don’t feel like giving him a gift. should I still? AIBU?

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Yellowwallflower1 · 30/05/2024 20:31

Reacting with violence when you are actually saying violence is not acceptable, is hypocritical and sending all the wrong messages.
I'm sorry you were punched, but a 14 year old who is hitting, clearly is experiencing some heightened emotions which he cannot regulate. The best thing would have been to tell him how hurt, and upset you are about what he did to you.

The best thing to do now, is maybe have that chat but stay calm and be accepting that he needs a sense of safety and security.

Shiveringinthecountry · 30/05/2024 20:28

Hi OP,

I'm so sorry this happened to you. It sounds absolutely horrible, and must be very upsetting.

It sounds to me as though it may be a mixture of him being too embarrassed to apologise, and possibly him also telling himself it was your fault because you were generous enough to apologise.

You did nothing wrong - please try not to fret about it. FWIW I would not be buying him a birthday present, and I think his parents have really let you down.

Try not to worry about it. I know it's natural to regret reacting as you did, but it's equally as natural to have done what you did in the circumstances. A grandson punching his grandmother is just totally off the scale in terms of behaviour in my world, and in yours too from the sound of it. Again, it's just horrible.

Thinking of you Flowers

LordPercyPercy · 30/05/2024 20:12

I think that’s exactly what the ‘good’ parents on here would do.

"Gentle hands darling".

LordPercyPercy · 30/05/2024 20:11

@eggplant16 I'm so sorry. Home is the place you should feel safe growing up.

Cornishclio · 30/05/2024 20:06

I don't think I would give him a card or present as he does not deserve one. Slapping him wasn't a great retaliation to him punching you but his behaviour was inexcusable. I think I would have been tempted to say you did not like him either when he said he hated you. Hard to see where you go from here but he obviously has serious issues and I would definitely be talking to his parents. Any further behaviour like that from him and I would be reporting him for assault, grandson or not.

MummyJ36 · 30/05/2024 20:03

Jesus Christ. If any of my DC’s grew up and punched their grandma in the stomach I would be absolutely horrified, what on earth are the parents doing to rectify this??? I’m so upset for you OP. Your grandson is a nasty piece of work.

notacooldad · 30/05/2024 20:00

It was my normal growing up
To be beaten and verbally abused day in , day out.
@eggplant16
I am so sorry that you have gone through this.
I'm sat alone in my car and I feel a mixture of rage and sadness for women like you, that have gone through this abuse.

I was thinking just now we never know if posts on here are genuine. What I can say is, as I mentioned in a previous post, this story is definitely not unique. There are many grandparents who are bringing up grandchildren for various reasons ( I know the op isnt).
It is more common in my experience to see teen males batter their nans than females. The girls tend to go missing from home. I don't know if this is a nationwide trend or something to do with the referrals I get.

DotDashDot24 · 30/05/2024 19:56

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.

Lmfao.

Catch a grip.

He deserved a battering. He's a spoilt boy, getting a slap.

And now he has failed to apologise, as if you can fkg apologise for punching your granny in the stomach ....and failed to acknowledge her when she (wrongly) tried to be polite to him/acknowledge him.

He is a disgrace. His parents are failing to an incredible degree.

He should be reported for assault. His record should be accurate.... Because I'm sure there will be a record, a long one.

I know a guy who said that his mother,when he was cheeky to her, hit him hard in the face ....and he laughed while recalling it, saying it wasn't even an open handed slap like he would expect from a woman .... it was a punch. He had a good relationship with her, and it taught him some manners.
Can you imagine what that woman would do to this violent, out of control shit of a boy? He would learn that you don't punch people, including a woman, and an older woman - without getting something back.

Over40Overdating · 30/05/2024 19:53

notacooldad · 30/05/2024 19:35

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.
How would you react if some one punched you in the stomach "oh, never mind sweet heart, anyway, what would you like for your birthday?''
More fool you!

I think that’s exactly what the ‘good’ parents on here would do.

I wonder what the correlation of parents like that and men children on other threads who scream and shout and bully their partners when they are expected to be grown ups is. Quite high I imagine.

I grew up in a violent household and abhor violence but I still think the granny was within her rights to slap the little shit. His parents should be the ones saying sorry not OP

ChangeAgain2 · 30/05/2024 19:53

Absolutely not. I wouldn't give him anything at all. Don't beat yourself up for slapping him either. He punched you in the stomach. I wouldn't look after him again either.

LuckySantangelo35 · 30/05/2024 19:48

notacooldad · 30/05/2024 19:35

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.
How would you react if some one punched you in the stomach "oh, never mind sweet heart, anyway, what would you like for your birthday?''
More fool you!

I genuinely think some people on here would react like that!

showerjelly · 30/05/2024 19:43

Yousay55 · 30/05/2024 19:23

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.

You are obviously deeply sorry and I think giving him a gift will help heal wounds, even if he doesn’t deserve it.

ultimately, it’s for his parents to manage this situation. It sounds like your grandson needs a lot of support for the issues he has.

GrinGrinGrin

What would you have done?

Cuddled him?

showerjelly · 30/05/2024 19:42

@eggplant16 I'm sorry for you Flowers

eggplant16 · 30/05/2024 19:41

LordPercyPercy · 30/05/2024 19:10

Btw I also know of several cases where women were battered black and blue by teen brothers when they were growing up, and the parents were too feeble to put a stop to it. I think I've even seen posts about it on here.
Female blood relatives are apparently acceptable collatoral for not having to tell boys no.
One of the women I know no longer gets physically hit by her brother, but he regularly calls her a whore and says he hopes she's found dead in a ditch.
He's an utter shit and she's got awful self-esteem issues. Great parenting.

It was my normal growing up. To be beaten and verbally abused day in , day out.

notacooldad · 30/05/2024 19:35

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.
How would you react if some one punched you in the stomach "oh, never mind sweet heart, anyway, what would you like for your birthday?''
More fool you!

SummerintheCity24 · 30/05/2024 19:34

I’m shocked too. Have these posters never had teenagers or know any teenage boys to appreciate how extreme this is?

notacooldad · 30/05/2024 19:33

I can't understand posters who want to tip toe and fucking apologise to the teen.
This is male violence against a woman and some people are saying 'aww he must have something going on" Of course he has but the minute a hit or punch is thrown then boundaries have been crossed.

We all ( should) know that domestic violence escalates and increases in frequency when unchallenged.
This is DV, this is male violence against a woman and no one seems to give a shit.

I would put my house on this kid not hitting a bloke twice the size of him. If he wouldn't do it then why does he think it's ok to do it to his nan. The boy knew exactly what he was doing.
There's been no meaningful consequences. The message us that he can do it again.

As a side note, this is not a unique case. I have dealt with something very similar in the last month ( work related I hasten to add!)

User8646382 · 30/05/2024 19:33

There are a lot of very worrying attitudes on this threat. It’s hard not to wonder if people are really that stupid or if more nefarious motives are at play.

A lot of people on Mumsnet appear to have a vested interest in seeing the complete collapse of British society.

gardenmusic · 30/05/2024 19:32

HE ASSAULTED HER. Fucking hell this thread is insane! All these apologists for violent males.
Yes, I am wondering if some of them are just having a laugh, now - surely nobody can be this naive? Stupid? Ignorant?

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TheFormidableMrsC · 30/05/2024 19:25

Yousay55 · 30/05/2024 19:23

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.

You are obviously deeply sorry and I think giving him a gift will help heal wounds, even if he doesn’t deserve it.

ultimately, it’s for his parents to manage this situation. It sounds like your grandson needs a lot of support for the issues he has.

HE ASSAULTED HER. Fucking hell this thread is insane! All these apologists for violent males.

gardenmusic · 30/05/2024 19:24

ByPeachSeal · Today 07:51

'You don’t seem to understand. She didn’t need to defend herself. She reacted because she was angry, not because she needed to defend herself.'

'We don't seem to understand'. OK, got it everyone? We just don't understand, that's the problem here.
How the hell do you know that she did not need to defend herself. How do you know he was going to stop at shouting, swearing and 'just' one thump? Hmm?

Yousay55 · 30/05/2024 19:23

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.

You are obviously deeply sorry and I think giving him a gift will help heal wounds, even if he doesn’t deserve it.

ultimately, it’s for his parents to manage this situation. It sounds like your grandson needs a lot of support for the issues he has.

gardenmusic · 30/05/2024 19:20

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ageratum1 · 30/05/2024 19:19

ByPeachSeal · 30/05/2024 07:51

You don’t seem to understand. She didn’t need to defend herself. She reacted because she was angry, not because she needed to defend herself.

For one thing slapping a child as a disciplinary measure is entirely legal.Punching a middle aged/elderly wo.an I definitely not.she reacted to shock him into stopping.
Jeez some of the answers on this thread are shocking !

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