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Fall out with Grandson

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LadySmurf · 30/05/2024 06:30

Recently I was asked to look after my two grandsons 14 & 8. The 14yo can be a handful with his behaviour and language, but we had a lovely time together, I took them out for the day and they wanted to sleep over. The next morning, 14yo was stroppy and swearing - I asked him to stop and not talk like that. The 8yo said “Mum said if you’re naughty they’ll take away your Xbox for a week” well it was like a red rag. He started shouting and swearing at me - then he punched me in the stomach. I’m very sad and horrified to say, I smacked his face in a reactive moment. When his parents came, I explained what happened and said sorry to him. They said he would apologise the next day - but nothing.
They took him home and now a month on, I’ve not had any contact with him, only the rest of the family.
I saw him yesterday when I visited their house. I said hello and asked how he was? He ignored me and told his brother he hates me.
Its his birthday next week - I don’t feel like giving him a gift. should I still? AIBU?

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LuckySantangelo35 · 30/05/2024 21:59

Frangipanyoul8r · 30/05/2024 20:53

Its his birthday next week - I don’t feel like giving him a gift. should I still?

Yes, you’re the grown up and the bigger person. Family doesn’t shun each other over incidents like this. He’s a child.

@Frangipanyoul8r

i would absolutely shun family over this if i were OP! What can be more serious than being assaulted? What exactly would it take in your book to shun family?

Lighteningstrikes · 30/05/2024 21:57

Yanbu
He needs to apologise to you first.

Do not reward his disgusting behaviour by giving him a birthday present.

Your instinctive reaction to being punched was totally normal 💐

WearyAuldWumman · 30/05/2024 21:55

BettyUnderswoob · 30/05/2024 21:43

Never has a thread needed one more.
This thread has been a real eye opener.

Some of the apologists on here terrify me.

Longma · 30/05/2024 21:54

Unconditional love doesn't mean forgetting what happened and not expecting severe consequences for such appalling behaviour.

Unconditional love includes teaching young people right from wrong, that it's important to accept responsibility for their actions, that remorse and forgiveness may be needed in some situations, that consequences of actions should be accepted,

Unconditional love should be two way ideally.

This cannot be forgotten, ignored, just left. This young man needs to know, and show he knows, that it is not acceptable to punch other people, let aline their grandma, in an unprovoked attack.

Male violence is a very real issue. Minimising it not an option.

WearyAuldWumman · 30/05/2024 21:54

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 30/05/2024 21:23

I’m genuinely bothered by the fucking lunatic apologists for male violence on this thread. Hang your heads.

I have a friend (an ex-teaching colleague) whose father was a police sergeant. He said that some of the worst acts of violence he had seen had been committed by 14/15 year old boys.

He retired from the police force in the 1970s.

sprigatito · 30/05/2024 21:52

I'm trying to imagine how I would have reacted if one of mine had punched MIL in the stomach at that age. It's unthinkable.

I'm so sorry OP, you must be gutted that this has happened. You have every reason to distance yourself from him for as long as you need to. I hope his parents are having some serious conversations about how to address his emotional problems and his anger.

OneNiftyPoet · 30/05/2024 21:51

Appalled by all the half wits on here saying she shouldn't have slapped him back. Any woman assaulted by a male is absofuckinglutely entitled to respond any way she can no matter how misunderstood the poor little shit is. Go grandma, next time wear some knuckledusters when you're looking after the toe rag. As many have already said, I doubt he'd punch a man in the gut - he's just learning early on who to bully.

Longma · 30/05/2024 21:50

Despair1 · 30/05/2024 16:43

This young man needs unconditional love, very difficult stage of life. I am not condoning what he did but the behaviour issues need to be addressed in the longer term by his parents. And yes, you do need to buy him a birthday present!

And yet, during this 'very difficult stage of life', almost all teenagers can control their anger and frustrations enough not to punch people, let alone their own grandma,

No, she doesn't NEED to buy him a gift right now,

This 14y male has sworn at her, shouted at her, punched her, said he hates her .. there is no remorse, no apology, nothing.

Port1aCastis · 30/05/2024 21:47

I suffered extreme violence from my exh as in my left arm smashed against the wall until it snapped and several beatings to apparently teach me a lesson. One night If had enough and knew I had to get out there and then managed to grab dd from her cot and run for the car. It was only when I got to my Mum's place that I realised I should of got out a lot sooner.
So I'm finding some of the posts on this thread staggering and offensive. I don't want another woman to go through what I did so I think we need to stop apologising for male violence. If the OPs grandson will punch his own nana who else will fall victim to his fist.

Sapphire387 · 30/05/2024 21:45

Oh look... another huge and controversial thread where an OP has dropped a bomb and then not returned.

BettyUnderswoob · 30/05/2024 21:43

JudgeJ · 30/05/2024 18:53

MNHQ, can we please have a Bollocks button alongside the Thanks?

Never has a thread needed one more.
This thread has been a real eye opener.

OneNiftyPoet · 30/05/2024 21:43

No gift and no card. I'd refuse any interaction at all until a meaningful apology was made. He'll end up in prison if he isn't taught now that actions have consequences. Tough love is needed. He's probably been spoiled rotten.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 30/05/2024 21:42

I'd give him bugger all until he apologised for his disgraceful behaviour and I'd be telling his parents to take a long hard look at themselves too.

DotDashDot24 · 30/05/2024 21:42

but a 14 year old who is hitting, clearly is experiencing some heightened emotions which he cannot regulate.

He'd regulate them if it was the school bully, I bet

He's big & bad enough to punch a woman,his grandmother - he's big & bad enough to see what happens when you assault people.

TypingoftheDead · 30/05/2024 21:41

The fact people think OP is in the wrong (for reflexively reacting against a teenager who chose to punch her) is genuinely terrifying. I’d be not only not getting him anything for his birthday, but possibly shopping him to the police.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 30/05/2024 21:37

Frangipanyoul8r · 30/05/2024 20:53

Its his birthday next week - I don’t feel like giving him a gift. should I still?

Yes, you’re the grown up and the bigger person. Family doesn’t shun each other over incidents like this. He’s a child.

Are you on a wind up?

It was an assault. Not an "incident".

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 30/05/2024 21:33

Yellowwallflower1 · 30/05/2024 20:31

Reacting with violence when you are actually saying violence is not acceptable, is hypocritical and sending all the wrong messages.
I'm sorry you were punched, but a 14 year old who is hitting, clearly is experiencing some heightened emotions which he cannot regulate. The best thing would have been to tell him how hurt, and upset you are about what he did to you.

The best thing to do now, is maybe have that chat but stay calm and be accepting that he needs a sense of safety and security.

Again, like I asked a previous poster who never responded, I will ask you:

Have you ever been hit by a larger stronger male? Do you know that feeling of panic and terror when you don't know if this is the first hit of many that could lead to your severe injury or even death?

Her slap was a defensive, instinctive, reflex to stop someone stronger from continuing to PUNCH her in the GUTS.

Stop excusing, denying and playing down male violence.

frecklejuice · 30/05/2024 21:32

Wow. Not only is he vile but he has shit parents as well, my son (15) wouldn’t see the light of day if he punched my Mum in the stomach, I would be telling you to absolutely not apologise for slapping him and he would be having some serious consequences.

No gift just a card.

gardenmusic · 30/05/2024 21:31

ShadesofPoachedSmoke

Thing is, it's not just ridiculous, it's dangerous.
This kind of thinking is a free pass to any male who wants to test his muscle.
I have gone from being bewildered to angry to bloody scared that women can think this way.

caringcarer · 30/05/2024 21:30

Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 06:34

Have the parents punished him for punching you? They hold blame here; they are clearly not managing his behaviour to the extent that he thinks it is ok to swear and to punch a woman, let alone his grandmother, in the stomach?
You have no reason to be horrified at your slap.

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This. He is disrespectful and sounds vile. It's never ok to punch people in the stomach let alone an older female. My DH would have taken his gaming machine and smashed it. He would not get another.

Nowdontmakeamess · 30/05/2024 21:28

LordPercyPercy · 30/05/2024 21:16

while I understand why you hit him, I don't agree with it. it's not really leading by example and he is a child. you are a grown up. you can't tell a child to be non-violent if you've used it too

No. OP was assaulted by someone who possibly has full adult male strength, or close to it, and reacted to the assault.

When you've just been punched in the stomach and are in shock and pain, "leading by example" won't be at the forefront of your mind.

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Maybe violent reactions are something that run through the family

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 30/05/2024 21:26

Yousay55 · 30/05/2024 19:23

I think you reacted badly to an awful situation by hitting your grandson back.

You are obviously deeply sorry and I think giving him a gift will help heal wounds, even if he doesn’t deserve it.

ultimately, it’s for his parents to manage this situation. It sounds like your grandson needs a lot of support for the issues he has.

Oh just get tae.

Ridiculous.

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/05/2024 21:26

justasking111 · 30/05/2024 20:55

Lady Smurf. Has never posted before. It's school holiday entertainment

Even if it is, it's no wonder people like Andrew Tate exist. The posts on this thread have deeply shocked me and I am a parent of a very large teen. There isn't a single situation where I would find him punching his grandmother in the stomach as acceptable and needing to be apologised to and rewarded. I am just stunned at the amount of people making excuses for a violent male. It's beyond belief.

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 30/05/2024 21:23

I’m genuinely bothered by the fucking lunatic apologists for male violence on this thread. Hang your heads.

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/05/2024 21:22

gardenmusic · 30/05/2024 19:32

HE ASSAULTED HER. Fucking hell this thread is insane! All these apologists for violent males.
Yes, I am wondering if some of them are just having a laugh, now - surely nobody can be this naive? Stupid? Ignorant?

.

I am frankly stunned at some of the things I've read here. Absolutely mind blowing.