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People commenting on my 6 YO DD weight?

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mumspiration1997 · 29/05/2024 20:09

I've had 3 different family members commenting on my daughters weight this week. "She's really filled out" "you should watch what she's eating" etc etc . Possibly from a place of concern as they wouldn't be people to be obviously nasty. For context she's 4 stone and average height. Is this a problem? She's a great appetite and an active girl who definitely loves a wee treat but big deal. I'm 9 stone and very active myself so it's not like I'm purposely just laying around setting bad examples. Perhaps maybe I should be making her eat healthier but I mean she eats fruit and ham sandwiches and chicken nuggets and mash and veg and the takeout with the whole family om a sat McDonald's etc. Big deal??!!! She's 6 I was just grateful she has a good appetite. Aibu???? Or r they???

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notacooldad · 30/05/2024 19:51

You have made a positive start, that's great! I know someone said I was harsh with you but you are jren to make changes.
My suggestions would be:

How about making your own bread at weekends. There are really quick breads with minimal ingredients. You could do it as an activity with Dd.

As others have said, look at doing food shops for healthy options. It can take a while to get in to the swing of things but it will soon become a good habit.

Buy some nice cookbooks and choose some meals together. Admittedly I didn't have a great deal of success with this. My lads weren't interested! However it worked well for my friend.

When mine were little I never had snacks such as crisps, cereal, chocolate, ice cream, biscuits in the house. Of course we did have these things occasionally, they werent forbidden, but we had to make a conscious effort to get them. They were a treat rather than an everyday expectation. If we were at the beach or a country park, of course the kids could have an ice cream but there wasn't tubs in freezer.

Op you are starting at a different point than I did. That was my normal living before I had children. With you it's a case of making a fresh life style choice sticking with it until it becomes second nature. I swear it will happen if you are consistent.
Another thing is that we were ( still are) an active family. I know not everyone wants to get out every weekend but we thrived on it and spent time hiking and mountain biking in Scotland since the kids were about seven. Now they are older this early behaviour has stayed with them and they hang round with like minded friends. Make time to do fun active activities together.
I hope it goes well for you both!

PinotPony · 30/05/2024 19:16

mumspiration1997 · 30/05/2024 18:49

Thanks guys. We are making good progress on Day 1. .. I think?!
Breakfast 9am was Weetabix and water.
Snack 11.30 strawberry banana cut up with a frube and 2 breadsticks.
Lunch 1.30. Roast chicken in granary bread sandwich.
3pm we were at shop and she wanted malteasers so I let her eat half the bag and said we'll have the rest tomorrow
Dinner 5pm. Breaded fish in oven with frozen peas.

Hoping for cereal before bed if needs be or else a pear if it's not too much of a shock to the system.

Hope this is okay and feel free for any other advice or ideas 💡 🙂

Vast improvement! Well done!

yumyumyumy · 30/05/2024 18:54

PollyPut · 30/05/2024 17:02

@mumspiration1997 the depending on whether she is closer to 6 or 7, she is somewhere around 75th centile on weight for her age according to the RCPCH charts: https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Girls_2-18_years_growth_chart.pdf

She's not officially overweight but the bar for overweight does seem to be quite high

I'd cut out the McDonalds. For the whole family - it's not a great example for the children.

In the photo I notice she is holding what looks like a sugary drink. Makes me think there are many more of those. They are not going to help her.

Cut them out and replace with water. At meals water, milk or fresh juice. The dentist may well have warned her so build on that immediately. Presumably at school she has water so this shouldn't be too hard. Make sure your relatives understand why that is happening to and support the action as they presumably offer her drinks when you see them - "for her teeth"

I think it's more accurate to base it on weight and height together, the nhs has a bmi calculator for children. She not that tall so is on the overweight/obese end.

mumspiration1997 · 30/05/2024 18:49

Thanks guys. We are making good progress on Day 1. .. I think?!
Breakfast 9am was Weetabix and water.
Snack 11.30 strawberry banana cut up with a frube and 2 breadsticks.
Lunch 1.30. Roast chicken in granary bread sandwich.
3pm we were at shop and she wanted malteasers so I let her eat half the bag and said we'll have the rest tomorrow
Dinner 5pm. Breaded fish in oven with frozen peas.

Hoping for cereal before bed if needs be or else a pear if it's not too much of a shock to the system.

Hope this is okay and feel free for any other advice or ideas 💡 🙂

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Pickledpopcorn · 30/05/2024 17:57

AnneLovesGilbert · 30/05/2024 17:48

Given how you keep describing your family as uniquely unsuited to NHS health measurements and how sure you are of that you’re posting a huge amount explaining it all. It sounds a bit defensive.

Because Ive had to be defensive ! With my older dc it was just how they were but I’ve had a lot of hassle with my youngest so I thought I’d post about our experience that’s all.

to add - not defensive due to MN but our experience with HV mostly

AnneLovesGilbert · 30/05/2024 17:48

Pickledpopcorn · 30/05/2024 17:22

Oh I know I mean we as a family disregard the bmi calculator till after that age as my dc come out as overweight but they all grow tall and slim down quickly around age 5/6 and stay slim . The HV didn’t even believe my food diary at one point !

Given how you keep describing your family as uniquely unsuited to NHS health measurements and how sure you are of that you’re posting a huge amount explaining it all. It sounds a bit defensive.

Pickledpopcorn · 30/05/2024 17:22

Ilovecakey · 30/05/2024 17:09

That's not true at all, my son in reception was checked and I had a letter saying he is a healthy weight. So no not all under 5s are classed as overweight!

Oh I know I mean we as a family disregard the bmi calculator till after that age as my dc come out as overweight but they all grow tall and slim down quickly around age 5/6 and stay slim . The HV didn’t even believe my food diary at one point !

Ilovecakey · 30/05/2024 17:10

Pickledpopcorn · 29/05/2024 22:13

I’ve had to decline the weight checks for all my daughters (I have 3) because up until age 5 they are all classed as obese. They suddenly then have a massive growth spurt and are tall and slim , it’s just how the girls are in my family. Currently battling the HV about youngest (3) and I’ve had to show her family photos to prove my point this is how we are!

Sorry jus reread your post. I now realise you meant just people in your family are overweight until 5. I apologise

Ilovecakey · 30/05/2024 17:09

Pickledpopcorn · 29/05/2024 22:13

I’ve had to decline the weight checks for all my daughters (I have 3) because up until age 5 they are all classed as obese. They suddenly then have a massive growth spurt and are tall and slim , it’s just how the girls are in my family. Currently battling the HV about youngest (3) and I’ve had to show her family photos to prove my point this is how we are!

That's not true at all, my son in reception was checked and I had a letter saying he is a healthy weight. So no not all under 5s are classed as overweight!

PollyPut · 30/05/2024 17:02

@mumspiration1997 the depending on whether she is closer to 6 or 7, she is somewhere around 75th centile on weight for her age according to the RCPCH charts: https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Girls_2-18_years_growth_chart.pdf

She's not officially overweight but the bar for overweight does seem to be quite high

I'd cut out the McDonalds. For the whole family - it's not a great example for the children.

In the photo I notice she is holding what looks like a sugary drink. Makes me think there are many more of those. They are not going to help her.

Cut them out and replace with water. At meals water, milk or fresh juice. The dentist may well have warned her so build on that immediately. Presumably at school she has water so this shouldn't be too hard. Make sure your relatives understand why that is happening to and support the action as they presumably offer her drinks when you see them - "for her teeth"

https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Girls_2-18_years_growth_chart.pdf

CerealPonderer · 30/05/2024 16:59

A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side

You're proving pretty spectacularly that you don't understand how centiles work @Otherstories2002.

The phrase 'wrong side of 50' is nonsensical. Children are not one homogeneous group and not every child can or should be under the 50th centile. Even within the exact same height, there will be a range of healthy weights to account for the individual. Build, muscle mass, whether they've just had a growth spurt. For girls after puberty there needs to be a wide margin of normal weights just to account for differences in breast size, hip size etc.

Do you realise that if every child on the 'wrong side of 50' lost weight to get them down to just below what 50 is now...then your hypothetical average child on the 50th centile for weight would suddenly be on the 100th centile?

Goldengirl123 · 30/05/2024 16:52

That’s an awful lot of food. Breakfast cereals are full of sugar. Well done on recognising this and trying to change it

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 30/05/2024 16:50

I do think she looks overweight OP. It’s a tell tale sign when the thighs meet until the knee then the legs splay outwards from there (like hers are doing). And also the stomach being visible through the clothes. Good luck with the health kick - looks like you can reverse this pretty quickly.

Isitautumnyet23 · 30/05/2024 16:48

OP, she does look a little bit overweight in the pic (being honest) and it sounds like you are taking all the comments onboard. Just one other thing, does she drink plenty? Kids always presume they’re hungry when actually they could just be thirsty. Make sure she drinks lots of water/no sugar squash (if she wont drink water) throughout the day.

I do think the snacking culture has to change in this country - we have become a culture that can’t do anything or go anywhere without ‘grazing’. People need a snack for the train, the car journey, waiting in a queue, sitting at their desk! I love the feeling of actually being hungry for my meals so tend to not snack. We always grew up on breakfast, lunch and dinner, never missed any of those meals and the occasional biscuit as a snack (no problem at all as we burnt off the energy). It sounds like if you cut down a few of the extra snacks and make sure she does plenty of activity, there wont be any problem at all.

Namechange43654 · 30/05/2024 16:39

Namechange43654 · 30/05/2024 16:28

So, using your logic, the 'healthy' bmi scale for adults is between 18 and 25. Under 18 is underweight and over 25 overweight (same as second percentile and 90th for children).

Admittedly the adult range is not percentiles, but the median of that is 21.5. So all adults with a BMI above 21.5 are on the wrong side? Hope you don't have one greater than that!

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Also, I would argue that an active child with an excellent, varied diet on the 64th percentile is far far healthier than a child on the 10th* who doesn't exercise and has a very limited palate.

*Am obviously in no way suggesting that every child on the 10th percentile is that way because they don't eat 😆

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 16:38

rainbowunicorn · 30/05/2024 16:35

You know that even after you edit we can still see the original post? Dont know where you are getting your calculations but a 5 year old at 116 cm weighing 3 stone 11 lbs is most certainly overweight at the 90th centile on the NHS
Nowhere near 17th

That's why I edited and deleted my comment, because I'd put in the wrong figure into the calculator. Unfortunately MN does not allow you to delete a post.

But you chose to try and score a point anyway, even though I'd retracted my incorrect comment. 👏

Well done you. What a fun life you must have.

rainbowunicorn · 30/05/2024 16:35

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 07:15

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Edited

You know that even after you edit we can still see the original post? Dont know where you are getting your calculations but a 5 year old at 116 cm weighing 3 stone 11 lbs is most certainly overweight at the 90th centile on the NHS
Nowhere near 17th

Grinchinlaws · 30/05/2024 16:34

@mumspiration1997 she does look a little overweight.

I have a 6 yo who looks like skin and bone to me (can see all ribs, spine, knobbly little knees, no fat anywhere) but he is 75th centile weight and height so perfectly in proportion. We’ve forgotten what “normal” kids should look like.

It’s great that you have noticed and are taking action.

PPs have made lots of good points about her diet - for me the thing that stood out is that she is eating loads of UPFs. If you can replace these with real foods (read up on the science) she will feel fuller and it will be so much healthier for her, and for all of you.

drspouse · 30/05/2024 16:33

(And what's extra scary is that the number of children who are overweight DOUBLES between Reception and Y6. What are we doing to our children??)

Namechange43654 · 30/05/2024 16:28

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 15:23

The centiles based on average children. A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side. But ignore the reality. Had no affect on me.

So, using your logic, the 'healthy' bmi scale for adults is between 18 and 25. Under 18 is underweight and over 25 overweight (same as second percentile and 90th for children).

Admittedly the adult range is not percentiles, but the median of that is 21.5. So all adults with a BMI above 21.5 are on the wrong side? Hope you don't have one greater than that!

drspouse · 30/05/2024 16:28

@Investinmyself those stats are indeed horrifying. 40% of year 6s overweight! I have a year 5 and a year 7 - the year 7 gets regular growth checks but as he's on ADHD meds they are never problematic - the year 5 is a skinny minny and as I've said pretty good at stopping when she's full - just need to watch her sugar intake. She is however from an ethnic group which has a high genetic risk of overweight.

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 16:26

When I was 16 I was slightly overweight in the 91st centile. "Come back a decade later" - I was BMI 19 as a 26 year old.

Pickledpopcorn · 30/05/2024 16:25

My dc are always on the 99th and then drop right down currently the older 2 at age 11 and age 13 are on the 12th and the 17th . Youngest still on 99th

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 16:25

CelesteCunningham · 30/05/2024 16:10

I'm not sure what's causing the confusion. PP's child has a BMI on the 64th centile and is officially a healthy weight and nowhere near overweight. Do you genuinely not understand that there is a range of weights that is healthy at any given height and age? Some smaller and some bigger but all healthy. And then there are weights outside that range that are too low or too high.

It's not a matter of opinion.

Edited

And do you understand that the mid point - 50 - is just that. As children get heavier that mid point relates to heavier children. Children today are overweight. Our idea of what’s healthy is utterly warped.

shearwater2 · 30/05/2024 16:22

Otherstories2002 · 30/05/2024 15:23

The centiles based on average children. A child sat on the 67th centile is on the wrong side of 50. You don’t want to be on the heavier side. But ignore the reality. Had no affect on me.

No, there are a range of weights which are healthy between the 7th centile and the 90th.

It's a bit like arguing with a government minister who thinks that all children should be above average academically.

My 15 year old is 5'10 and ten stone, so she is exactly on the 50th centile for weight. I'm not about to tell her to lose half a stone just so she can be in the bottom half. She could be a stone heavier or a stone lighter and still a healthy weight.