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Homemade lasagna.

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Idrinkmywhiskeyneat · 29/05/2024 16:59

Is it one of the best inventions known to man?
Just stood in the kitchen with my lovely meaty, tomatoey sauce in one pan and the cheesy loveliness in the other. One of the best best is getting a spoonful of the mincemeat and topping it with the cheese sauce and just eating it off the spoon, whilst you’re stood over it, cooking it all. It has to be a very tomatoey, cheesy, thick lasagna, also extra nice, if left and eaten later in the evening or the next morning,

Anyway, sorry, just a homemade lasagna appreciation post.

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NellieJean · 30/05/2024 18:32

You want time consuming, faff and food porn then meet my dh. First the meat, shin of beef braised for seven hours in red wine, garlic, herbs etc. This must then be left overnight (no idea why). Next day the tomato sauce is made using the now very beefy and herby red wine. Meat shredded into the sauce.
Cheese sauce, must be full fat milk and only Gruyère cheese allowed. Lasagne sheets only one Italian brand allowed, Assembled, into oven and then left to cool for 30 minutes before serving. It’s delicious obviously but ffs. He’s not Italian and has a demanding job to answer two obvious questions.

LaCerbiatta · 30/05/2024 11:23

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 08:37

Yep.

I'm sorry but it's really not. I'm not italian but have been fluent, albeit many moons ago. I'm portuguese and we have that sound as well, maybe that's why it's so clear to me it's not like onion at all.
Maybe an italian will come along and back me up!!

bridgetreilly · 30/05/2024 10:55

When I was 18, an Italian lady taught me how to make ragu. Her advice was that you can put whatever you like in it, but you must cook it for at least three hours. Never fails.

pontipinemum · 30/05/2024 09:20

I love lasagne! I make it in a huge tray, 20 portions, and freeze it. I always have some in the freezer. DH said it is better than any he's ever got out. I honestly even think it was almost on par with the one I had in Rome.

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 08:37

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 30/05/2024 07:49

It's a sound that doesn't exist in the English language. Just looked it up and phonetically it's ˈɲ

I'm not here arguing how British people should say it, but in Italian there is no 'n' sound and no 'y' sound. Google an audio of how Italians say it.

Baffled by this (and interested, because I'm a languages teacher and speak a bit of Italian). I think it's a 'ny' sound as in 'onion' or 'Anya'. I just googled and listened to 4 different Italians saying it, and it definitely does sound exactly like that.

Yep.

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 08:36

LaCerbiatta · 30/05/2024 06:26

It's a sound that doesn't exist in the English language. Just looked it up and phonetically it's ˈɲ

I'm not here arguing how British people should say it, but in Italian there is no 'n' sound and no 'y' sound. Google an audio of how Italians say it.

I know how Italians say it. I'm in Puglia. I don't need to Google how Italians say it, and neither does the poster you were correcting.

Of course there's a /n/ sound in Italian. It's a very phonetically regular language. There wouldn't be a letter "n" if it didn't have a sound. The city isn't Aples, is it?

There isn't a corresponding phoneme in English for the Italian "gn" letters, no. But the closest pronunciation is absolutely the one the pp gave that you said was wrong.

There isn't one "y" sound (corresponding to the letter "y") in English either btw. It's represented generally by /j/ when the sound occurs at the beginning of a word (yes, university etc) and by other vowel/semi-vowels when it occurs elsewhere. (happy- letter y completely different in pronunciation from the y in yes, and the sound /j/ at the beginning of university.

jeaux90 · 30/05/2024 07:57

Good homemade lasagna takes time over a couple of days IMO.

I love the traditional recipe with the meat cooked in milk, and the white sauce milk boiled then left to cool with onions in.

Also has to be half beef/pork.

Absolutely stunning

CasperGutman · 30/05/2024 07:51

Bought lasagne sucks. A good homemade lasagne wins every time. However, it is a time-consuming dish to make from scratch. We tend to make the meat sauce in a big batch and freeze it, then defrost a batch so less effort is involved when we want to make lasagne.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 30/05/2024 07:49

It's a sound that doesn't exist in the English language. Just looked it up and phonetically it's ˈɲ

I'm not here arguing how British people should say it, but in Italian there is no 'n' sound and no 'y' sound. Google an audio of how Italians say it.

Baffled by this (and interested, because I'm a languages teacher and speak a bit of Italian). I think it's a 'ny' sound as in 'onion' or 'Anya'. I just googled and listened to 4 different Italians saying it, and it definitely does sound exactly like that.

RagzRebooted · 30/05/2024 07:29

Idrinkmywhiskeyneat · 29/05/2024 17:13

Served with boiled potatoes (controversial perhaps) dripping in melted butter

I serve mine with peas and put vinegar on it. Apparently also odd, but I'd like to to try your potato idea.

Whitegrenache · 30/05/2024 06:42

Lilyhatesjaz · 29/05/2024 18:24

Every few months I make a massive amount of the ragu sauce and portion it up for the freezer, so when I make lasagne I only have to make the white sauce as the meat is ready to use, saves much of the faff.
I now want lasagna for tea.

Me too

Whitegrenache · 30/05/2024 06:39

bridgetreilly · 29/05/2024 17:29

Now, if we’re talking homemade cottage pie you need to start with left over roast beef…

Yes absolutely or left over roast lamb and make shepherds pie

LaCerbiatta · 30/05/2024 06:26

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 06:15

Like the "ni" in "onion" would be the nearest equivalent. Very definitely a /n/ sound, followed by a semi-vowel /j/ that in letters would be rendered with a "y" or "i" when trying to tell people how to pronounce it. Without phonetic symbols, it's standard to render the "gn" in Italian words as "ny + vowel" as pp has.
How is there not a /n/ in your lasagne, gnocchi and Bolognese?

It's a sound that doesn't exist in the English language. Just looked it up and phonetically it's ˈɲ

I'm not here arguing how British people should say it, but in Italian there is no 'n' sound and no 'y' sound. Google an audio of how Italians say it.

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 06:25

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Yet you don't know how to use a comma. Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself before trying to be clever with others. Rarely works.

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 06:20

user1471462701 · 30/05/2024 06:14

How do people layer their lasagne?

i’ve not quite figured out what I prefer. Have seen some recipes that put the white sauce between to pasta layers

However you want.
I go for as many layers of pasta as possible, which makes a more solid sliceable dish. Probably about 8-10 layers of pasta in total.
Apart from the bottom, which I just use the meat mixture to coat the tin to stop sticking, every other layer I put a mixture of meat and bechamel together. I didn't use to, but dp who's a chef was taught that way and I much prefer it now. Here (Puglia) they also put mozzarella into each layer.

Lifelong · 30/05/2024 06:18

MouseMinge · 29/05/2024 23:06

@Idrinkmywhiskeyneat thank you for this thread. I shall try and keep a long story as short as I can to let you know why I'm thanking you. I have cancer of the oesophagus. Actually, if treatment has worked maybe I don't. I'll find out by the middle of next month. Anyway,poor me etc. I drink a lot of food supplements because for ages I just couldn't eat because food go stuck and blah. Recently I've been aware that I'm sure I could eat more but I have a bit of a mental block and get scared that x will get stuck and I don't want to try it. A couple of weeks ago a friend and I talked about cheese for an hour - we are that exciting - and I brought up Gouda and then really, really, really wanted to try it. I did. I am currently eating it every day without too many problems. I want to introduce more food to my diet (I am underweight, it's not nice to look at myself) but it needs to be something that suddenly grabs me from somewhere and then becomes like some made pregnancy craving but, you know, cancer instead. I read what you'd written, read a bit more and now I desperately want lasagne and it has to be homemade. It couldn't be real meat as that is a definite no-no for now, but with well seasoned quorn or similar. I am salivating.

This has ended up longer than I wanted it to be. Of course you're not unreasonable and (currently) 13% of people on this thread are a bit wrong, possibly in the head. You've made me happy and I'm going to get a friend to help me make a really good homemade lasagne (I used to make great lasagne, I need help because I'm a bit feeble at the moment, blah, blah). If it turns out I can't eat it (slowly, all eating is slow) then she can have it, there's no waste and a delicious lasagne gets eaten one way or another. Thank you for giving me a seriously tasty in so many ways, from actual taste to smell and texture and oh my, craving. Possibly the best one yet!

(I hope I haven't derailed the thread too much!🙂)

Oh you poor thing.
May I suggest this super nourishing dish that is a bowl of comfort and beloved by young and old alike.
Make a chicken stock from bones, onions, full bulb of garlic, lots of herbs like bay, sage and rosemary from the garden, if you have them.
Boil the hell out of them, bash down, allow to stand for an hour, drain.
When drained, add a bag of spinach, heat and whizz up. Then add a bag of orzo pasta. We call it baby pasta.
Cook, top with grated parmigiana.

Comfort and real nourishment in a bowl.
I wish you well.

SudExpress · 30/05/2024 06:15

LaCerbiatta · 30/05/2024 06:02

@KreedKafer
"And in Italian, is pronounced 'boll-o-nyeh-zeh',"
No it's not! Not sure how to phonetically do the 'gn' sound (same as lasagna) but there's no 'n' sound there and definitely no 'y' sound 🙂

Like the "ni" in "onion" would be the nearest equivalent. Very definitely a /n/ sound, followed by a semi-vowel /j/ that in letters would be rendered with a "y" or "i" when trying to tell people how to pronounce it. Without phonetic symbols, it's standard to render the "gn" in Italian words as "ny + vowel" as pp has.
How is there not a /n/ in your lasagne, gnocchi and Bolognese?

user1471462701 · 30/05/2024 06:14

How do people layer their lasagne?

i’ve not quite figured out what I prefer. Have seen some recipes that put the white sauce between to pasta layers

DataColour · 30/05/2024 06:07

I love doing a lasagne and I don't find it a faff. I make the Bolognese sauce the day before, takes about 15mins to prep and leave it cooking for a couple of hours. Next day, make the bechamel sauce, later, top with grated cheese and bake for 30mins. Recently, I've started to use the food processor to chop up the onion, carrot and celery which makes it even easier.
Had it yesterday!

Lifelong · 30/05/2024 06:06

Recently substituted gnocchi for the sheets, was exceedingly good.
I add green lentils to the ragu which goes unnoticed and veg are grated into it so dissolve. I make the ragu in a slow cooker overnight, just bung in before bed. It is very quickly assembled the next day.

LaCerbiatta · 30/05/2024 06:02

@KreedKafer
"And in Italian, is pronounced 'boll-o-nyeh-zeh',"
No it's not! Not sure how to phonetically do the 'gn' sound (same as lasagna) but there's no 'n' sound there and definitely no 'y' sound 🙂

Orangeandgold · 30/05/2024 06:01

I agree! Most restaurants have changed their recipes over the years and so my homemade lasagnes feel more special! Although I have a quick cheat recipe for the weekdays (cheese sauce and less tomato) and it takes me about an hour to make.

There is only one cafe near my work who I’d get lasagne from as it tastes close to homemade.

Westfacing · 30/05/2024 05:53

Layer, grate a bit on top, bung in the oven. Serve with salad (or chips, or indeed boiled potatoes, or mash!?!!) I prefer it with Sarsons vinegar

Some serious food heathens on here Grin

@MouseMinge Sending positive vibes for good news next month Flowers enjoy your lasagne - hope your friend doesn't serve it with big boiled buttered potatoes!

Caiti19 · 30/05/2024 05:37

PurpleBugz · 30/05/2024 00:32

I love my lasagne but I get feedback that I put too much veg in it 😔. Has to be full of peppers mushrooms onions and courgette 50/50 with the meat for me personally. Then served with salad and balsamic dressing. My absolute favourite meal. Has to be home made restaurant or shop bought never have enough veg

I feel the same. When it's bursting with veg, it's just next level!

Greenmayleaves · 30/05/2024 04:22

I love lasagne but recently I prefer stuffed peppers. Tastes like lasagne but without the lasagne sheets which I don't love anyway.

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