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for being upset as my dh has retired early (at 60) and expects me to keep working until 60 too, even though he is 10 years older than me

542 replies

MrsPuddle · 29/05/2024 12:53

I dont particularly enjoy my job or it would be ok, but now he is 65 and I am 55, I am getting resentful as he is out and about enjoying himself, going on lads holidays etc and I am stuck at home behind a screen. I just cant do this for another 5 years, but he cant see the problem. If we wait until I am 60 he will be 70 and he will be older and who knows, maybe not well, and not inclined to be active with me. We will have enough money, if we just tighten out belts in retirement. Has anyone else faced this issue with an older partner? thanks

OP posts:
Stargazing24 · 29/05/2024 16:48

Someone else mentioned police retiring at 50. What about doctors/nurses/NHs workers?

AInightingale · 29/05/2024 16:47

Isn't your husband bored? I can see how life would be difficult and how quickly you might start to resent his freedom when you're both based in the house seven days a week, even if he does take himself out and about. Wouldn't you prefer to work outside of the home again, is that a possibility? Be nice to come home to a cooked meal and a tidy house - please don't tell me you're doing all the chores too!

Stargazing24 · 29/05/2024 16:46

I’m surprised how many posters are shocked or horrified that op might want to retire at 55. All the teachers I know are retired between 55-58 at the latest. In fact in my county it’s hard to hold on to your job when you reach 50. In the last reorganisation everybody over 50 was first out.

Naunet · 29/05/2024 16:46

Lampslights · 29/05/2024 15:50

this is bonkers. Why would you assume he needs a carer at 70 and she will be in fine health with no issues.

irs like another planet on here sometimes, where people don’t get sick and they hit seventy and they need carers. Utterly ridiculous.

She didn’t assume anything, she said “may not”. And she’s right, it’s possible.

JimBobsWife · 29/05/2024 16:45

Sorry, to be clear, I meant for him to have paid earlier on while he was still working. Although he could pay top-ups in now as well!

JimBobsWife · 29/05/2024 16:44

The point about pensions is so under-discussed. Especially at the divorce stage.

The way to counteract your situation OP, is for your DH to pay into your pension as well as his own. I would hazard a guess that some women think this is unreasonable but it's the only way to have real equity at this stage in life if you've sacrificed earlier on for childcare.

Inkyblue123 · 29/05/2024 16:39

Very odd you are so resentful when he has done his time, nevertheless you do need to talk about your retirement and what shared goals you have and how it will be funded. The average life expectancy in UK is 80. By 70 the majority of people are living with a significant health problem - so 60-70 is prime time ! If you are planning on going exploring maybe leaving it till your 60 is too late, for him anyway.

LBFseBrom · 29/05/2024 16:39

Do you like your job? If you do, I don't see any problem. Your husband can do some jobs around the house, shopping and the like, on some days now he is retired.

It sounds OK to me.

MrsPuddle · 29/05/2024 16:39

Coffeerum · 29/05/2024 15:25

One the one hand you say you didn’t take any time out with kids and then on the other you say your income greatly reduced due to kids?

I switched to a job that was more child friendly, therefore on much less pay and pension. I dont regret it, but it has consequences now, so I realise!

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Harassedevictee · 29/05/2024 16:38

@MrsPuddle I know you have dismissed a poster for saying similar to what I am going to say but bear with me.

My first response is fuck that, either we are a couple or not. Make it crystal clear he will be paying for carers if he needs them as you will be enjoying your retirement.

I’m going to be practical and give the advice I always give on these threads.

  • State Pension - check your entitlement https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension. You can always pay c£900 a year for any years you are short, but make sure you will get a full state pension.
  • works and private pensions - get up to date statements, you should have annual statements. Make sure you understand your entitlement at age 60 and if you go early. Do projections to age 80 as this often shows taking a lower pension (actuarily reduced) for more years = the same as a higher pension for less years.
  • work out your current joint expenditure now and when you retire. Include Christmas presents, annual insurance etc. but adjust for changes e.g. commuting costs reduce but petrol increases. This helps you work out what you can jointly afford. In your shoes I would also cost out what my retirement costs would be if I lived alone.
  • Use a gross to net calculator https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/tax-calculator/ to work out your net pay a) going part time b) pension. Remember you don’t pay NI or pension contributions out of pension income. Also remember when you go part time you lose the income that has the most deductions.
  • Phase your retirement by going part time e.g. stop working Wednesdays. This is a day for you to do what you want to do e.g. go to a class, day trips, cinema etc. Do not let your husband suggest you do the cleaning or chores or something together be clear this is your day,
  • Once you have the finances all sorted go to 3 days, I did Mon, Thur, Fri. This phasing in means you gradually start your retired life so the change is not so great.
  • Have a deadline when to fully retire and book a holiday in advance so you have a clear timeline.

Check your State Pension forecast

Find out how much State Pension you could get (your forecast), when you could get it and how you could increase it

https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

betterangels · 29/05/2024 16:37

CharlotteRumpling · 29/05/2024 16:33

Why is MN so against jollies with friends?😂

A lot of people on here don't seem to like their friends much tbh. Perhaps that's why 😅

godmum56 · 29/05/2024 16:37

MrsPuddle · 29/05/2024 14:43

What a strange unhelpful statement? should I eat less than my husband? not buy any clothes?

women have the children - many take time off for childcare- should they pay their husband back for supporting them when they weren't working?

do you realise the majority of men have bigger pensions than their wives, because they havent had to compromise their careers due to childcare?

Arent you and your partner a team?

well it doesn't sound like you are......

godmum56 · 29/05/2024 16:36

CharlotteRumpling · 29/05/2024 16:33

Why is MN so against jollies with friends?😂

oh its ok if you are female.....

godmum56 · 29/05/2024 16:35

YellowPolkaDotBikini1980 · 29/05/2024 13:37

So bizarre what couples don't talk about.

"We've been together 8 years and he's just said he doesn't believe in marriage."

"We've just had a baby, and partner says they've always wanted the name Bartholomew and they've put that on the birth certificate."

"I want my 3 month old to be christened in the Catholic faith but my partner wants them to be agnostic."

"We have an enormous age gap and he has retired and I want to retire at the same time. We've had 20 years to talk about it but never have."

Maybe these people are having such good daily sex they're always too exhausted to talk about anything.

oh this for sure! I mean hindsight is a marvellous thing. I am saying this not for the OP but for anyone else who reads this who needs to hear it. TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND AGREE PLANS. If you can't agree plans then should you be together? I don't understand why "his" pension feels more like his than "his" salary? Or have you never shared? I really don't think that the "tighten our belts so I can retire early" sounds fair either. Not sure about the "can't do this" I mean if you were single or partnered with a younger man, you'd have had to!...but yes there are things you can do and they start with shock horror calm discussion. Did you both work full time before he retired? How was the housework shared? does he ever want to do stuff with you? I mean I am assuming you don't work 24/7? How long has he been retired for? Its pretty common to kick over the traces for the first few weeks/months after retiring. But for goodness sake talk and talk calmly.

CharlotteRumpling · 29/05/2024 16:33

Why is MN so against jollies with friends?😂

alrightluv · 29/05/2024 16:31

My dh is almost 70 and semi retired. I'm mid 50s and pt. Even if he was fully retired he wouldn't want to go on jollys with friends. He does most of our cooking, lots of housework etc.

Does your dh pull his weight around the home?

It doesn't sound very balanced to me.

UserNumber56 · 29/05/2024 16:28

What is it that you're so desperate to do in retirement that you can't do now? You can still go on the nice holidays, for example. Probably much nicer ones than if you'd stopped working and had no income.

Remember, retirement is an everyday thing, not a now and then thing. Once you're out of the workforce, at your age it would be very difficult to get back in if you got bored and changed your mind.

Work keeps you busy, gives you a reason to get up and showered in the morning, gives you opportunities to talk to other people, to keep your brain active and to feel like a useful and functional member of society. Once retired, one sort of diminishes in those respects. So, think carefully before giving all that up too soon.

Having said all that, if you do have some definite plans for what you want to spend your time doing day to day and you won't just be drifting, then go for it.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 29/05/2024 16:24

Why should you manage to retire early if he didn’t?

ittakes2 · 29/05/2024 16:24

You are a partnership - I would expect a partner ways to spend quality time with the other partner and rather than you work 10 more years he would work a bit longer and you would work a bit shorter. Ie three years more each or whatever.

Slavica · 29/05/2024 16:21

LaPalmaLlama · 29/05/2024 13:05

I guess the flip side is that when you were younger you potentially benefited from getting with someone who was more financially established so it’s swings and roundabouts- possibly not though.

I would agree with this. My DH is 8 years older than me, we were both in our thirties when we met. He had savings, I had none. Now I earn more than he does, but his savings have given us security when it was crucial and enabled us to buy a property.
I have thought about what our life will be like when he retires (at retirement age or early). Knowing him, he will take over the housework and cooking, while I'll still do food shopping. I hope we'll both be healthy enough for this to come true, I've known too many people not be able to retire in good health.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 29/05/2024 16:19

@EllyGi

I see as usual a bunch of nasty realistic and honest responses.

Fixed that for you. You're welcome. Smile

BigDahliaFan · 29/05/2024 16:19

I have sympathy. Slightly different in that my DH is likely to want to work longer than I do, but same feeling that his pension seems more 'his' than 'ours'. if I work longer I'll have a bigger pension to put in the pot I get that, but he actually likes working, and also my family history means I'm unlikely to have a long healthy retirement. Mine pop their clogs in their early 70s.

His family are mostly still very active and healthy into their late 80s!

Dropping a day a week might be a good compromise.

Soontobe60 · 29/05/2024 16:17

I’m older than DH. I retired slightly early with a reasonable pension but still work part time. I will continue to do so until State Pension age. I earn more than him with my combined pension and salary. As a result of this, he has been able to reduce his hours, initially dropping 1 full day and more recently reducing the number of hours he works each day. He will likely continue with this work pattern until he reaches his state pension age.
I do the bulk of the domestic stuff now, but he still does all the laundry!!!

EllyGi · 29/05/2024 16:17

I see as usual a bunch of nasty responses.

My dad was older than my mom. She retired 1 year after him 8 years earlier than he did.

They had a few years of travelling and being together and very happy.

Retire and enjoy your life if you can afford it. You will regret it if you keep working.

ImNotReallySpartacus · 29/05/2024 16:16

Count your blessings. Retirement at 60 is living the dream, except that future generations won't even be able to dream of it.