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Friend making plan to meet up several weeks in advance.

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Longlazyday · 28/05/2024 23:05

Am I being unreasonable to consider let this friendship go?

Messaged a friend to suggest meeting for a coffee. They have suggested August. 🙄

OP posts:
Hotttchoc · 01/06/2024 11:05

@ICantThinkofAnythingClever I get being annoyed if you break plans but something like a bereavement should attract some understanding

PlaygroundSusie · 01/06/2024 10:41

OP, I hear you. I don't think you're unreasonable.

Can I advance another theory? I have a friend similar to yours. She works a 9-5 weekday job, no partner, no kids, no dependents. She lives in a small, low-maintenance apartment. She goes to church once a week, but (aside from work) that's the only commitment she's got.

And yet... whenever we make plans for a casual coffee, she normally asks for a date that's anywhere between 3-7 weeks in advance. That's because (in her own words) she likes to space out her social events. As she has a somewhat limited social life, she tries to avoid a situation where she sees 3 friends (separately) in one weekend, then sits at home by herself for the remainder of the month. So (for example) if she's arranged to have coffee with Friend A for Saturday June 8, and Friend B invites her for brunch on Sunday June 9, she'll push back Friend B until the following weekend.

Most of the time I just roll with it. Where it becomes problematic is when we've arranged to have a casual coffee weeks in advance, but then something comes up in the interim for the same date/time that I'd much rather attend. (For example, one of my favourite authors unexpectedly comes to town to give a one-off talk, etc). It then means I have to forgo the event I'd rather attend, because it would otherwise mean cancelling on my friend. And when the coffee date has been planned so far in advance, it somehow feels ruder to cancel, if that makes any sense?

tartanlove · 31/05/2024 23:25

Ask her if she can make 12th October.

FlutterShite · 31/05/2024 23:20

Yeah, I've just stopped bothering with a couple of friendships where it's 'Oh we must meet up soon!' and when I suggest dates and times it becomes 'ooh sorry, bit busy until March 2026 so I don't know...' I've plenty of stuff on, myself - I don't just sit here in a rocking chair, smoking and knitting and waiting for people to fill my time. But there are people I love to meet up with and talk with, and I make time for them. If others don't want to do the same, then they're obviously not bothered, so I stop asking.

Orders76 · 31/05/2024 23:13

Longlazyday · 31/05/2024 22:13

I’m amazed the thread continues to be so lively, and the volume of people who have responded.

I felt hurt when I posted, for reason given above. I feel OK now our expectations differ, neither right nor wrong.

This has been such an interesting read.

I'm really pleased the thread has given you other perspectives, especially that you may still be important to your friend and don't bin a good friend over schedule problems!

Longlazyday · 31/05/2024 22:13

Longlazyday · 28/05/2024 23:12

We live in same area, no caring responsibilities, nor demanding jobs. Suggestion of a straightforward coffee - one hour max.

I’m amazed the thread continues to be so lively, and the volume of people who have responded.

I felt hurt when I posted, for reason given above. I feel OK now our expectations differ, neither right nor wrong.

This has been such an interesting read.

OP posts:
Tinytigertail · 31/05/2024 18:10

This is me too. I am often booked up with things 6 weeks or so into the future. Also, if I've made lots of social plans, I can find myself overcommitting, so if rather put a date in a while away than cancel someone at the last minute because I've been out 4 times that week and am feeling overwhelmed.

456pickupsticks · 31/05/2024 18:02

Orders76 · 31/05/2024 17:51

I know this is so well meaning and lovely and kind, but I'd take it badly and would feel pressure to now fit said friend into coffee when I'm making the kids tea, juggling the kids over to theirs, or worst of all trying to watch kids in a soft play while talking. My friend would be getting zero focus.
I so much prefer pencilling in when I can give them 100%

That's absolutely fine too, and probably heavily depends on the age of your kids too, and the nature of the friendship!
A toddler in a softplay - probably not an ideal environment for a coffee with a friend, an 8 year old and a 9 year old, probably fine to go 'just go play for half an hour, I'm having a coffee'. Just presenting an option for OP which no one else seemed to have.

A lot of time I've seen my local friends over the last few months has been with a 'well I'm doing this on that day, but you're welcome to come along' or a 'I'd love to come to a games night, but I promised another friend I'd do something with them as they need some company, would it be ok to bring them along?' or 'I can't make that, husband is at a sports thing so I've got the kids' 'Oh it's fine to bring them along, they can either join us or sit in the other room reading or watching tv and just join us for food'.
All fine to say, but would be a contributing factor in 'I don't have any free time for the next two months'. l.

Mary46 · 31/05/2024 18:01

Think I let it fizzle out op.. if friends want see you they will. Im finding though months can pass due to elder parents, work, kids sport at wends months are just gone by.

Ohwellithappens · 31/05/2024 17:52

Some friends will say sorry can't meet before X because of....I have other friends who just don't say which I find a little annoying. I find weekends really busy so often suggest meeting for coffee at lunchtime or breakfast, is that an option?

Orders76 · 31/05/2024 17:51

456pickupsticks · 31/05/2024 17:17

If August is the first schedule-able free time they have, maybe you need to offer an alternative - perhaps her and her family can come to you for dinner? or you can offer to bring coffee and meet her on the sidelines of her kids sports matches? Or you could offer to go along to softplay with them, so the kids are occupied whilst you have coffee?

Parents are often juggling so many things - its not unusual for them to not be 'free' to do something, particularly if they've got childcare to consider too! But that doesn't mean you can't work it around what she can do - drop her a message, and say something like 'August is really far away! I'd love to see you before then, I'm happy to come to you, or for you and the kids to come to me, or we can go somewhere like a park or softplay with them. Let me know what would work for you!'

I know this is so well meaning and lovely and kind, but I'd take it badly and would feel pressure to now fit said friend into coffee when I'm making the kids tea, juggling the kids over to theirs, or worst of all trying to watch kids in a soft play while talking. My friend would be getting zero focus.
I so much prefer pencilling in when I can give them 100%

Polishedshoesalways · 31/05/2024 17:28

westisbest1982 · 31/05/2024 12:18

Busy, busy, busy - we’re all so busy.

But anyone who is too busy to meet a friend for a coffee for one hour - the friend who lives in the same town as you - has no concept of friendship or just doesn’t care enough.

I can’t meet any friends at the moment, I am taking final exams and it’s been like this for months. Others might have elderly parents to deal with, or health issues. I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of friendship to look beyond yourself and what you want and consider why a friend can’t make a single coffee.

456pickupsticks · 31/05/2024 17:17

If August is the first schedule-able free time they have, maybe you need to offer an alternative - perhaps her and her family can come to you for dinner? or you can offer to bring coffee and meet her on the sidelines of her kids sports matches? Or you could offer to go along to softplay with them, so the kids are occupied whilst you have coffee?

Parents are often juggling so many things - its not unusual for them to not be 'free' to do something, particularly if they've got childcare to consider too! But that doesn't mean you can't work it around what she can do - drop her a message, and say something like 'August is really far away! I'd love to see you before then, I'm happy to come to you, or for you and the kids to come to me, or we can go somewhere like a park or softplay with them. Let me know what would work for you!'

westisbest1982 · 31/05/2024 12:18

Busy, busy, busy - we’re all so busy.

But anyone who is too busy to meet a friend for a coffee for one hour - the friend who lives in the same town as you - has no concept of friendship or just doesn’t care enough.

Underestimated4 · 31/05/2024 11:39

What are her actual dynamics. Work, kids, husband?

Underestimated4 · 31/05/2024 11:36

People are busy. I work part time, meeting up is limited because I priorise my family first and any appointments I have. Childcare also can be an issue so sometimes we book things months in advance.

Johnthesensible · 31/05/2024 10:37

More info is needed. Do they live near you/what job do they do/do they have young children.

It is hard to give an answer as it depends on the above. If they are single and fancy free working nearby, then get rid as they have you well down their list of priorities. If they are miles away or kids etc then August might not be so bad.

Though for me personally if I had to wait two months simply to have a coffee each time, I would be fazing them out, that's just me though.

Thepeopleversuswork · 31/05/2024 09:58

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 28/05/2024 23:55

You can always ask why she is so busy. Careful though, I did something similar and got a 12 minute voice note explaining friends DS sporting schedule, her medical appointments, work deadlines and her DHs shift work rota (which wasn't even relevant)!

To be honest: “why are you so busy?” comes across as bossy and nosy.

It’s none of your business why she’s busy. Your post implies that there’s something wrong with being busy.

I am pretty busy and on weekends when there’s nothing in the diary I crave downtime and not having to schedule something. There are all kinds of reasons why she might be busy and she’s not obligated to justify this to you!

TrustyRusty68 · 31/05/2024 08:43

If you’ve got kids who play a sport, hobbies yourself, a social life, job etc - your diary fills up pretty quickly. If a friend asked me today to meet up on a weekend, it’d be late July before I’m free. People’s lives are busy - get the date booked in, something to look forward to & pick your next date whilst you’re together. Have a lovely time :-)

westisbest1982 · 30/05/2024 21:26

wintersgold · 29/05/2024 15:01

Too busy for a coffee for the next 2 months, really?

Exactly.

This is a classic situation where the other person just isn’t into the other person as much as the other person is into them, otherwise she’d easily find the time for the OP. She thinks of the OP as an acquaintance, a true friend would easily see you for an hour within the next month or so.

ICantThinkofAnythingClever · 30/05/2024 21:17

I had a friend like this who always wanted to schedule catch-ups for ages in advance as if it was a meeting with the Prime Minister, and I gave up on her in the end. It wasn't just that she didn't ever have time in the short term, which I can understand, I am also very busy and I can be crap at catching up with friends. But she also became extremely unpleasant if for any reason I couldn't keep to her scheduled appointments.

Last time we spoke, she got pissy I cancelled on her because I had a bereavement in my family! I'm sorry I couldn't predict that one 3 months in advance, Lizzie.

wintersgold · 30/05/2024 21:03

betterangels · 30/05/2024 13:39

That's fine. We don't have to agree. What's important to me is that my friendships are fine. Because we do understand this in each other and accept it.

As I said, OP should make her own decisions about her friendship - if she sees this situation as a personal slight. No one should stay friends with someone if it no longer works for them.

That's very fair, I'm glad it works for you. I do agree that friendships are very personal and OP should make the call that works for her

betterangels · 30/05/2024 13:39

wintersgold · 29/05/2024 17:59

I've worked 60-80 hour work weeks in the past and dealt with family issues at the same time - and even then I could always spare an hour for coffee with a close friend. I don't think I'll ever understand your point of view

That's fine. We don't have to agree. What's important to me is that my friendships are fine. Because we do understand this in each other and accept it.

As I said, OP should make her own decisions about her friendship - if she sees this situation as a personal slight. No one should stay friends with someone if it no longer works for them.

Oblomov24 · 30/05/2024 10:31

But yes, in answer to your question I'd let the friendship go. She doesn't value you and has no free time.

Orders76 · 30/05/2024 10:29

Ferngardens · 29/05/2024 18:03

@wintersgold exactly, it's whether you see it as a chore or something that makes all that hard work and time sorting family out a bit more bearable. I would say though that my friends who struggle to meet are the ones that struggle most with MH and there can be something there. I think relationships help with that side of things

It's not MH that reduces my frequency and contact, it's busyness and also prioritising what I need.

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