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To have let another child ruin our afternoon?

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letsgoglamping · 28/05/2024 16:21

I already know I didn’t deal with this well and it isn’t a massive deal or anything but it was annoying.

The weather here is terrible so took my DDs (3 and 8 months) to a little soft play place. When we got there another little girl was very taken with DD2 which was sweet at first but she did not leave us alone for the entire session. Constantly trying to pick DD2 up and getting in her way as she was trying to crawl and play a bit. I kept trying to manage the situation but that meant DD1 was being practically ignored. I tried ‘wouldn’t you like to go and play for a bit?’ and ‘I’m sure your mummy would like to see you!’ but no joy. Short of being really blunt (go away and leave us alone!) had no idea what to do.

She then joined us for lunch which was a pain as while she didn’t eat anything it was again taking my time away from my own two.

Just wondering how others deal with this and AIBU to think parents should really check on their child every now and again? I don’t hover over DD1 but we were there for two and a half hours and it was just too much from this child.

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Hazyjaneishere · 03/06/2024 09:19

In my experience, children of this age, do not understand anything that is remotely subtle. I don’t think it is mean to say to a child it’s been lovely to meet you but please go and find mummy or daddy now as you are having lunch or you want to play with your children alone.

It’s the kind of thing that sounds a bit rude to an adult but honestly I don’t think children see things in the same way. At the end of the day, it’s not your responsibility to watch over someone else’s child either.

I would find this kind of situation quite stressful. it’s also a bit worrying that she was allowed to be with you independently for that amount of time with no intervention at all from a parent or carer. I would’ve actually been worried about who she was and where she had come from by the point that she joined you for lunch!

yorkshiredadoftwo · 02/06/2024 19:42

LewishamMumNow · 28/05/2024 16:27

You should have been more pointed with her, and ultimately spoken to her parents and/or a member of staff. Totally not fair on your older daughter. I find Dads especially are really bad at ignoring their kids who then seek attention elsewhere.....

I find that Mums from Lewisham are especially bad at making sweeping generalisations that verge on sexism…

Cazareeto1 · 02/06/2024 19:00

CosyLemur · 31/05/2024 07:19

If you don't hover over your daughter why do you expect this child's parents to hover over them? And how do you know she wasn't annoying others?
For all you know her parent was also dealing with multiple children; and trying to stop toddlers interacting with her baby!
If you don't want interaction with other kids don't go to soft play during half term - simple.
Stick on waterproofs and go to the park instead where you'll no doubt have it all to yourself!

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Scotnut · 02/06/2024 18:58

I would have taken the cowards way out and taken her to staff….. just tell them she’s not yours and let them deal with it. As a softy and a parent I would have never allowed my child to do this but if people don’t deal with it and your not comfortable being mean then that’s the only way to stop it x

Londonscallingme · 02/06/2024 14:53

I guess you won’t read this because if I were you I’d have definitely muted notifications for this 😂 however, I just wanted to say a boy ‘joined us’ at the soft play centre recently and whilst he was a total pain in the arse, I also felt sorry for him. His guardian (grand parent in this case) wasn’t interested in engaging with him at all and he just wanted some company. I can understand why you didn’t necessarily want to just send her away.

Lizziespring · 02/06/2024 08:07

Teaching children that some adults are hostile and unfriendly, prepares them for life. If a five year old doting on a baby annoys you, then take some fangs and a fright wig when you go to a play area. If a sweet small child approaches, don your props, hiss "go away" and continue to do so till she cries. She'll leave and never coo at a baby again and your children will learn the lesson too. Win-win.

Purpleheatherfronds56 · 02/06/2024 07:47

Doglover321 · 01/06/2024 23:37

I am childless, but do have a dog and have had the exact same thing. Being in a pub garden, trying to enjoy dinner and drinks with my friend, and other people’s children practically joining our meet-up (because they love the dog so much) and parents just letting them. I even had someones 7-year-old tell me he was off to take Casper for ‘a walk round the block’! My friend and I weren’t able to even talk to each other, let alone eat or drink our drinks!

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I feel your pain! I never mind a five or ten minute interaction with a child and our dogs, but it’s a bit much when they park themselves permanently at your table.

It’s so annoying because the irony is that the child’s parents end up having a lovely relaxed lunch when yours is ruined!

I never blame the children themselves but I think it’s really bad manners and entitled behaviour on the parent’s part.

Doglover321 · 01/06/2024 23:37

letsgoglamping · 28/05/2024 16:21

I already know I didn’t deal with this well and it isn’t a massive deal or anything but it was annoying.

The weather here is terrible so took my DDs (3 and 8 months) to a little soft play place. When we got there another little girl was very taken with DD2 which was sweet at first but she did not leave us alone for the entire session. Constantly trying to pick DD2 up and getting in her way as she was trying to crawl and play a bit. I kept trying to manage the situation but that meant DD1 was being practically ignored. I tried ‘wouldn’t you like to go and play for a bit?’ and ‘I’m sure your mummy would like to see you!’ but no joy. Short of being really blunt (go away and leave us alone!) had no idea what to do.

She then joined us for lunch which was a pain as while she didn’t eat anything it was again taking my time away from my own two.

Just wondering how others deal with this and AIBU to think parents should really check on their child every now and again? I don’t hover over DD1 but we were there for two and a half hours and it was just too much from this child.

I am childless, but do have a dog and have had the exact same thing. Being in a pub garden, trying to enjoy dinner and drinks with my friend, and other people’s children practically joining our meet-up (because they love the dog so much) and parents just letting them. I even had someones 7-year-old tell me he was off to take Casper for ‘a walk round the block’! My friend and I weren’t able to even talk to each other, let alone eat or drink our drinks!

AgileMentor · 01/06/2024 17:36

The child sat with you for lunch and the parents didn’t intervene? I would have gotten up straight away and taken my child away. She obviously wasn’t being watched! I would have said can we please leave the little one to explore on her own thank you. The issue isn’t the child it’s the parents! Her parents should have been watching her because any normal person would have told their child to go off and play instead of hanging round one family the entire time.

HobbitDreader · 01/06/2024 17:36

YouJustDoYou · 31/05/2024 15:48

No one should be forced to look after/interact with anyone if it makes them uncomfortable/they're tired and need a break from people etc.

This is ALSO an IMPORTANT LESSON FOR CHILDREN.

nonsense. if you need a break from people you stay home.

Strawberryicecream88 · 31/05/2024 22:31

I'd be firm and ask her to return to her parents/carer but in a kind way. No need to hurt a child's feelings or be rude to them. It isn't her fault that she's not being properly supervised and at that age would have limited awareness that she was being intrusive and annoying towards you and your children. I'd not enter into a conversation with her as such or make much eye contact but would smile and say something like "shall we go and find your mummy? " Or say "it's been nice talking to you but you need to go now".

sarah419 · 31/05/2024 20:18

i find that it’s often those who have come with nannies are like that. i just move to a different location of the play gym to avoid interaction, but it is quite sad!

HobbitDreader · 31/05/2024 20:15

I think you have to realize that when you go into "communal" play areas, you're supposed to interact with other humans. It is hilarious how completely bovine some of the responses are here. Bovine and anti-social.

T1Dmama · 31/05/2024 19:30

Lovemyones · 31/05/2024 08:20

Wow just realised that the majority of ''mums" clearly don't like kids from these responses.

What happened to being kind, it's a 5 year old who's enjoying being with this family.

It's a one time thing and although annoying, people telling OP to say go away now is crazy, to a 5 year old who wants to play. The parent of the other child is the problem, however, there's no knowing what sort of life this child has.

Next time try saying that you are going to be eating so you'll see her after.

If I saw another parent telling a kid to get away at a soft play I would be disgusted. She wasn't battering them she was trying to play.

I don’t think it’s about not liking them, but it’s about not wanting your whole time somewhere taken up by someone else’s child talking, leaving you unable to talk/play with your own children?!

Princesscounsuelabananahammock · 31/05/2024 19:09

Haven't RTFT but why are you allowing somebody else's child to 'ruin your day'?! If they're being a pain in the ass then just kindly set a boundary eg 'Baby is enjoying exploring right now please don't touch' or 'we're having dinner now please go find your parents' I think it's always good to be as open as you can though for the benefit of your kids.

I have a sociable only child. As such I think it's really important for her to have the confidence to approach people and make friends. I do tend to leave her to do this at parks etc not because I'm 'lazy' but to try and encourage independent social skills. If I can see she's palling up with another family though I will usually nip over to that family and check 'is she ok over here. Please do grab me or send her back to us if needed' and on the flipside I will welcome other children over to us with open arms within reason.

I think we have to set boundaries but then I don't think we can simultaneously deny kids the opportunity to socialise and then complain when they become chronically depressed tiktok zombies by age 12 either

Mememe9898 · 31/05/2024 19:01

SpunkyMintZebra · 31/05/2024 17:28

It’s cute but I do have a problem with a 6 year old picking up my baby, i do not know how rough this child is, how strong they are to hold them, have they a cold/ill? (Wouldn’t surprise me some parents taking their kids out I’ll) if it’s a friend, you know their kids.
I get older kids making friends but older kids playing with younger kids, has to be boundaries. A 7 year old was pushing my 2 year old (she’s 4 now) on the swing and my daughter didn’t like it and she tried grabbing her out of it, that was not on - I know she was trying to be helpful but I had to tell her to let go and we stopped playing on the swings annoyingly.

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I agree about the boundaries and my son who’s 6 would never try and pick up a baby. He would play with her/him from the mat and be super gentle. I’d never let him hold a baby as that’s out of order. I wouldn’t even let him lift his younger brother as I’d worry he dropped him.
This is when you intervene as it’s not easy for ppl with multiple kids to be looking at their kid every second esp if they are older. My son is super gentle and gets boundaries as he’s been taught not to cuddle other kids. They get taught this at school. But if a parent wasn’t happy about my son being close to them I’d expect them to tell him as he’s just being friendly and if it was a problem him going near them then I would be fine with them telling him even if I would find it odd to be that way when in a public soft play where kids go to play with others. If kids are hurting others/being overly rough that’s a different story but just playing gently should be ok.

GRex · 31/05/2024 17:49

Prinnny · 31/05/2024 17:40

Well I’ve had a successful soft play trip today, my child made a friend within 2minutes of arrival and played nicely with him for the entire session so I didn’t get pestered to go on the slide and I didn’t have to tell anyone to ‘go away’ win win 😊

Same, but at scooter park. DS met a kid a year younger with the same scooter, they introduced themselves gleefully. His dad had been running with him but gratefully sat down with a phone about 1 min later, as did I on the other side, and squealy laughs while they chased each other round until the other kid's home time; big hugs and fond waving farewells. Despite hand wringers on here, I'm certain both kids knew very well that they are loved and wanted, they just had kid play instead of adult play for an hour.

Prinnny · 31/05/2024 17:40

Well I’ve had a successful soft play trip today, my child made a friend within 2minutes of arrival and played nicely with him for the entire session so I didn’t get pestered to go on the slide and I didn’t have to tell anyone to ‘go away’ win win 😊

Ilovesmesomefriedchicken · 31/05/2024 17:31

letsgoglamping · 28/05/2024 16:21

I already know I didn’t deal with this well and it isn’t a massive deal or anything but it was annoying.

The weather here is terrible so took my DDs (3 and 8 months) to a little soft play place. When we got there another little girl was very taken with DD2 which was sweet at first but she did not leave us alone for the entire session. Constantly trying to pick DD2 up and getting in her way as she was trying to crawl and play a bit. I kept trying to manage the situation but that meant DD1 was being practically ignored. I tried ‘wouldn’t you like to go and play for a bit?’ and ‘I’m sure your mummy would like to see you!’ but no joy. Short of being really blunt (go away and leave us alone!) had no idea what to do.

She then joined us for lunch which was a pain as while she didn’t eat anything it was again taking my time away from my own two.

Just wondering how others deal with this and AIBU to think parents should really check on their child every now and again? I don’t hover over DD1 but we were there for two and a half hours and it was just too much from this child.

Honestly, the majority of the time I let those kids join us, as I felt so sad for them, since they obviously weren’t getting the attention they needed from their own parents, and I was that child once who’s parents didn’t play & just sent me off on my own. It’s not the poor child’s fault, they just want to feel connection, feel wanted, feel like their company is a pleasure instead of a nuisance.

If it was ever causing me difficulties, like they were not being safe/hitting/disruptive etc, then I would just say very calmly but firm, “please don’t do that”, or “please leave us alone”.

SpunkyMintZebra · 31/05/2024 17:28

Mememe9898 · 31/05/2024 15:41

You should have just upfront said it’s an issue. My 6 year old loves to play with babies and will often hover around them. I find it incredibly cute and never once thought a parent would have an issue with it. Having said that I go to soft play to hang out with mum friends and let me kids play with other kids. It’s not for me to spend 1:1 time with them as that’s what you do at home. A soft play is a big public place for kids to play with others just like playgrounds. I did see a parent the other day look sour faced when my kids and my friends kids were playing around him. It’s a public place and not private to them so having kids running around next to them shouldn’t come as a surprise. We all found it incredibly annoying as they kept giving us death stares. Next time my son tries to play with a baby I’ll make sure I ask the parent if it annoys them as he’s only just being friendly and kind.
He would never have lunch with them though as that’s just odd. I would have sent the kid back to the parents as it’s not your responsibility. It’s strange the parents didn’t notice he/she was trying to have lunch with you.

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It’s cute but I do have a problem with a 6 year old picking up my baby, i do not know how rough this child is, how strong they are to hold them, have they a cold/ill? (Wouldn’t surprise me some parents taking their kids out I’ll) if it’s a friend, you know their kids.
I get older kids making friends but older kids playing with younger kids, has to be boundaries. A 7 year old was pushing my 2 year old (she’s 4 now) on the swing and my daughter didn’t like it and she tried grabbing her out of it, that was not on - I know she was trying to be helpful but I had to tell her to let go and we stopped playing on the swings annoyingly.

SpunkyMintZebra · 31/05/2024 17:23

I feel like I would have been the same as you, too polite to tell a 5 year old to go away 😅 but I have had this before where a toddler wouldn’t leave us alone and it was hard watching my daughter as he was interfering so much, eventually I just ignored him and didn’t interact with him and he got bored and went away.
Why their parents don’t stop them I don’t know - my daughter didn’t want to play with him, she was too young to anyway and was not interested in the slightest, but yes you should have told her to go back to her mummy/daddy or find them and tell them she needs to go back to them now.

LizzieBennett73 · 31/05/2024 17:11

Happens all the time OP, and I was the parent that seemed to attract other people's kids. But I was there to entertain my own, and not those of lazy parents sat with their head in their phone/mug of coffee. I became more confident to say to the kids that we'd enjoyed playing with them but it was time to go back to their own Mum/ Dad now.

Terramom · 31/05/2024 17:10

“You need to go and find your mummy now. Off you go. Bye bye!”

BigAnne · 31/05/2024 17:06

ThatLibraryDebate · 31/05/2024 15:51

Nothing the poster you were replying to was saying would have got you locked up for unstable behaviour 😂

I think you have the skills from classroom management to have dealt with a really persistent child being a bit of a nuisance , perhaps the different setting just threw you a bit.

Starting off gentle and escalating to kind but firm and through to rude if you are being ignored is a perfectly reasonable communication pattern - you just felt like you couldn't escalate it beyond a certain point because of the situation you were in, but I think you could have done.

"It's time to leave baby alone now please."
"My children would like to play by themselves now. Would you rather go play by yourself or find some different children to play with?" "Okay good plan, off you go!"
"Please stop playing with my children now. You can stay in this ball pit and play by yourself, or you can go find some company in another part of the play centre."
"Time to stop playing with my children and go do something else."
"Stop playing with my children NOW, thanks."
"Who is your grown up? (wait for answer) - Do I need to take you back to them and tell them that you're being a nuisance or are you going to go play with somebody else like I asked you to?" (and if necessary go ask her grown up to remove her from playing with your children as she's being a bit of a nuisance. If she can't or refuses to point out her grown up, that's the time to shout out DOES ANYBODY KNOW THIS CHILD, or to ask a member of staff to deal with it as the child appears to be unaccompanied).

"It's time for my family to have lunch now, bye bye"
"This lunch is for me, child X and baby Y. You can either go play with some other children or go back to your parents."
"This table is for my family only to have lunch. You need to go sit with your own family or go and play elsewhere please."
"I would like to have some time alone with my children. Please go and find somebody else to play with now."
"Where is your grown up? Do you need me to take you back to them or can you go by yourself?"
"Go and play by yourself or with somebody else now."
"Go away please." (go away in this context isn't sending the child out of the play area, it's sending the child away from you and your children.)

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I'm actually laughing out loud 😂

Josette77 · 31/05/2024 16:24

I was the mom who other kids gravitated towards at softplay and playgrounds. I used to be a nanny so many kids sensed that?

Ds has sn's and when he was younger was very possessive of me. He is also adopted. Sometimes it was hard when other kids would be chatting away to me and I was trying to answer and pay attention to my son.

I love kids so I didn't actually mind unless we were now eating, or he needed some space.

I usually just said " Alex and I are just going to eat now ( or play by ourselves) for a bit."

It can be really awkward but sometimes the parents aren't paying any attention. I could have walked away with a few kids before their parents noticed. One followed me to the bathroom once. I brought her back out and the mom was still chatting away to someone. We were gone for about 5 minutes. She was only about 3..

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