To think that improving state schools needs people to pay an e.g. a state school tax?

Look at you with your hand in somebody else’s pocket 🤣😂🤣

Because private education is a luxury service that is currently an anomaly in not attracting VAT.

Exactly ! Countless posters saying these things on countless threads over the last week or so. I don't agree with them. I just find it amusing how many people try and claim whatever facts suit their narrative

What I find interesting is that this is the only thread I have seen talking about additional funding required for state schools (even in a round about way). But there are so many people commenting on all threads about VAT on private school fees. Like Starner people have got their priorities wrong

@User79853257976 that would be difficult to do. Many state schools are also charities (although not necessarily profit making!). Mind many private schools are surviving on reserves at the moment

All the threads on here at the moment ....

To be fair to the poster, Mumsnet tells us daily that this is the case.

Yes I don’t actually think it’s a good idea. I think they should take 20% of each school’s profits and cap the price rises they can pass to parents in line with inflation.

What on earth gave you such a spurious idea? Hopefully you are informed enough to do the maths. I'll help you out. There is a mix of private schools with varying fees. There is also a mix of parents in different economic situations with children in private schools. From those for whom the 20% VAT will surely be unaffordable, to those who barely spare a second glance at the invoices. Regardless of economic circumstances though, most are aghast by such a deeply flawed and divisive policy.

@User79853257976 calculations have been done that show very little money will be raised by this policy once the additional costs of children moving over to state and additional input VAT being able to be claimed by private schools are taken into account.

They are going to get the 20% from you lot.

But I thought private school parents were all low earners scraping by, and all the high income tax payers had mansions in sought after state catchments?

Yep. In a shitty northern mining village where you were lucky to escape

Not as ridiculous a thought as taxing parents who already contribute much higher income tax than most people do to the public purse and who also save the state the 7000 odd pounds a year to educate their child or multiple children.
I wonder why is it more palatable to have someone else sacrifice yet more money to fund not only their children but also your children's education. You can't conceive sacrificing a bit of money to the school to educate your own child to the standard you are after.
There's just so much entitlement in the UK that it results in this hopelessly regressive labour policy.

Taxpayers are not getting good return on their investment. They haven’t for years. Civil service and governmental agencies need proper reform to make them efficient and fit for purpose.

I do not want to pay more tax because ultimately it will get squandered.

Show me a government that can balance the books and I will possibly reconsider

Many of those people are there because 111 told them to go after triaging them on the phone.

State schools were perfectly good by the end of the last Labour administration. The Tories chose to destroy all the good work that had been done.

If it's zero then you aren't paying any tax for the service you use. You pay to pollute, not to use any service.

I wasn’t talking about the value but the principle of paying additional taxes for services you use but others don’t.

So how much would you think is fair?
What's not much to one person could be prohibitive to the next. Someone can still be on relatively low income but paying tax. Once they've paid for the roof over their head and the food on the table there's not much left.

Agree with many others more is needed than money being thrown at the problem.

Also the resentment at the “good” state schools - most cities have very mixed housing even the leafiest state school will be more demographically mixed than a private school. Good state schools also don’t get contextual offers from universities (rightly so) but have the other negatives of state (stuck with difficult pupils /teacher retention) so arguably they have worst of all worlds - if that makes you feel better!

I want to know what on earth the government are spending the money on as it doesn't appear to be on Education/NHS/Police/Housing/other infrastructure that is needed for a functioning society.

Its very possible the previous generation didn't want to pay for your education, and may not feel that was their money well spent.

My post was not supposed to be threatening at all. Purely, and you can see already how many contribute, that not only could the VAT spectacularly backfire but the state seems system needs levelling up not the PS pulling down.

I'm sorry but PS parents will shout louder, not a threat, a fact. Labour are saying the money will go to state education, what else are they going to do to level up the state system and help deprived areas? How about expecting the rich academies with all their rich parents to provide outreach like they do the PS? I suspect PS will stop all that now as there's no need.

We already pay tax and NI so, no thanks.