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20 year old daughter having to spend night at JFK airport.

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DaughterStranded · 27/05/2024 21:43

Not an AIBU, but posting for traffic as really worried.
20 year old DD has arrived at JFK airport to find connecting flight to South Carolina cancelled due to signalling issues. The next connecting flight will go 7am tomorrow morning. There are no earlier flights to any nearby airports available.
DD has decided to spend the night at JFK airport. I am worried she will fall asleep and get robbed of her phone/money. Anyone else had this situation to deal with? Any advice or tips anyone?

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N4ish · 28/05/2024 08:52

Didimum · 28/05/2024 08:48

And what’s the issue with getting a room if you prefer?

No issue at all! A room sounds like a good plan but she should be sorting it all out herself.

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:50

Chatonette · 28/05/2024 06:16

The US recently (within the last few weeks) legislated that delayed flights require compensation to passengers. Make sure you follow up on this!!!

@Chatonette Thank you. Will do!

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Didimum · 28/05/2024 08:48

N4ish · 28/05/2024 08:42

If she was genuinely sleeping rough under a bridge in New York then yes, I’d be worried. Spending the night in a well lit, air conditioned airport with security guards everywhere would be uncomfortable but not unsafe.

And what’s the issue with getting a room if you prefer?

Didimum · 28/05/2024 08:46

EmilyTheCriminal · 28/05/2024 08:38

That is not what the poster is saying and you know it.

I guess the comments about unresiliant children has hit a nerve?

?? That’s exactly what she’s saying. Regardless, the daughter was already planning to kip at the airport anyway and her mother just offered her the room. Daughter didn’t call up ‘needing’ a solution, so what’s the problem? Just wanting to make OP feel bad for some arbitrary reason?

And why of why is every critical comment on here met with ‘hit a nerve?’. No, my kids are 6 years old and whenever I went travelling my parents only got a text message or two. It’s not that deep.

RampantKrampus · 28/05/2024 08:46

I slept on the floor of Kuala Lumpur airport at her age. I’m sure she’ll be fine.

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:44

MariaLuna · 28/05/2024 01:53

Jesus woman, let her grow up.

She's an adult you know. She'll be able to navigate her way around and it will be the making of her. Not like she's in a country where she can't speak the language. Get a grip.

You need a hobby.

My son (32) has travelled all over, solo or with friends. There's mobiles now, which is not the case when I was travelling.

@MariaLuna I knew when I posted in AIBU that I would get at least one post like yours! There seems to be a theme on MN of some posters feel that it is a crime to provide any help to DC once they hit the golden age of 18.
Fortunately for me, the overwhelming majority of posters have been kind and helpful and have provided a wealth of useful information which has been extremely useful.

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Ginmonkeyagain · 28/05/2024 08:42

There are some very sketchy people hanging around at Jamaica where you change from the LIRR/subway for the air train but JFK itself is fine. I assume if she was changing planes she was in the secure bit?

Honestly I think you panicked hearing New York but it would be like spending the night at Heathrow, not Piccadilly Circus. JFK is an international 24 hour airport so there would always be people around, not least all the others who were going to get the same flight ad your daughter.

It would have been a bit boring and uncomfortable but not the end of the world and "the night I spent at JFK" would have just faded in to an amusing post holiday anecdote.

N4ish · 28/05/2024 08:42

Didimum · 28/05/2024 08:34

God forbid we have people that care about each other and help out when things don’t go to plan 🙄 Do you want a medal for having the ‘resilience’ to sleep rough?

If she was genuinely sleeping rough under a bridge in New York then yes, I’d be worried. Spending the night in a well lit, air conditioned airport with security guards everywhere would be uncomfortable but not unsafe.

EmilyTheCriminal · 28/05/2024 08:38

Didimum · 28/05/2024 08:34

God forbid we have people that care about each other and help out when things don’t go to plan 🙄 Do you want a medal for having the ‘resilience’ to sleep rough?

That is not what the poster is saying and you know it.

I guess the comments about unresiliant children has hit a nerve?

Didimum · 28/05/2024 08:34

N4ish · 28/05/2024 08:28

Threads like this make me absolutely determined to work on making my children independent and resilient. I travelled across Europe and India in my early twenties and slept in train stations, ferry ports etc. when travel plans didn’t work out.
My parents had absolutely no idea where I was most of the time, the deal was I rang home once a week to check in. There is no reason for a 20 year old to need their mother to oversee how and where they spend the night.

God forbid we have people that care about each other and help out when things don’t go to plan 🙄 Do you want a medal for having the ‘resilience’ to sleep rough?

N4ish · 28/05/2024 08:28

Threads like this make me absolutely determined to work on making my children independent and resilient. I travelled across Europe and India in my early twenties and slept in train stations, ferry ports etc. when travel plans didn’t work out.
My parents had absolutely no idea where I was most of the time, the deal was I rang home once a week to check in. There is no reason for a 20 year old to need their mother to oversee how and where they spend the night.

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:27

Change2banon · 28/05/2024 08:24

That’s great! I’ve never heard of a TI policy covering an adult ‘child’! So it covers her even though you’re not travelling with her? Thats fab, and I hope they pay up for the hotel 😊

@Change2banon Yes, the policy definitely covers DD travelling independently. However, as Nationwide Flex have recently changed their insurance provider, I don't know if DD will be covered after the next renewal.

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DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:25

GrumpyPanda · 28/05/2024 00:10

Here's the ultimate resource on this type of question:

https://www.sleepinginairports.net/

@GrumpyPanda Thanks for the information you posted! Fantastic!

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Change2banon · 28/05/2024 08:24

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:19

@Change2banon We have Nationwide Flex travel insurance which provides travel insurance cover via UK Insurance Ltd. However, Nationwide Flex have just changed to another provider. The only reason we are still covered by UK Insurance Ltd is that we recently purchased an insurance upgrade.
20 year old DD is still covered under our policy because she is under 24 and in full time education. Our older DS isn't covered.

That’s great! I’ve never heard of a TI policy covering an adult ‘child’! So it covers her even though you’re not travelling with her? Thats fab, and I hope they pay up for the hotel 😊

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:19

Change2banon · 28/05/2024 08:12

Hope her flight went smooth this morning OP. Out of interest, what travel insurance do you have that will cover your adult dd? We do annual TI but each adult ‘child’ has to have their own policy.

@Change2banon We have Nationwide Flex travel insurance which provides travel insurance cover via UK Insurance Ltd. However, Nationwide Flex have just changed to another provider. The only reason we are still covered by UK Insurance Ltd is that we recently purchased an insurance upgrade.
20 year old DD is still covered under our policy because she is under 24 and in full time education. Our older DS isn't covered.

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DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:15

It was Jetblue. Thank you for posting the link!

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Change2banon · 28/05/2024 08:12

Hope her flight went smooth this morning OP. Out of interest, what travel insurance do you have that will cover your adult dd? We do annual TI but each adult ‘child’ has to have their own policy.

Guineaguineaguinea · 28/05/2024 07:48

I’ve slept there twice but 20 years ago when in transit and backpacking so on a budget. It was fine but that was then. Put valuables in backpack and put it on me, slept on big backpack. Just remember getting kiwi and strawberry Snapple from the vending machine and chatting briefly to security guards who didn’t try to kick me out. Was very quiet but security around and felt pretty safe.

EmilyTheCriminal · 28/05/2024 07:48

MariaLuna · 28/05/2024 01:53

Jesus woman, let her grow up.

She's an adult you know. She'll be able to navigate her way around and it will be the making of her. Not like she's in a country where she can't speak the language. Get a grip.

You need a hobby.

My son (32) has travelled all over, solo or with friends. There's mobiles now, which is not the case when I was travelling.

This.

I slept on the floor at airports many times as a young traveller.

It never once occurred to me to contact Mummy for help!

What have we done to the younger generation? It really worries me.

dayswithaY · 28/05/2024 07:40

I spent a few hours at JFK recently. It seemed safe and friendly, there’s worse places to be.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 28/05/2024 07:33

DaughterStranded · 27/05/2024 23:53

Thanks a million all. I have booked her a room at the TWA airport hotel which is in the airport. She took a lift within the airport to it. Apparently there aren't any sleeping pods anymore.
It was very expensive but I am hopeful our travel insurance might cover it.

This will come under the delay section of your travel insurance so probably won't cover the whole cost, it's often so much per 12 hours or something. Someone mentioned cancellation on insurance but this is not cancellation this is delay. Cancellation is if you have to cancel like if you're ill or something not if they cancel. I would be looking to claim from the airline

Bjorkdidit · 28/05/2024 07:26

As for whether compensation is due will depend on who's fault it is. The OP says 'signalling issues', which sounds like it might be outside the airline's control so no compensation due although they might be required to provide overnight accommodation so worth following up, also with the travel insurance. They might get something back.

But I'm another one who now wants to go to the TWA Hotel, it looks awesome. I've never even thought about going to New York before but if I did, I'd probably be getting a day pass for there even if I didn't stay the night.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 28/05/2024 07:23

It’s nice you’ve got her a hotel and it will definitely be a better nights sleep butsleeping in an airport at 20 is all part of life’s adventure and building resilience so unless she needs to be fresh for something important tomorrow then I think you overreacted a bit.

PuddlesPityParty · 28/05/2024 07:03

Greenfinch7 · 28/05/2024 01:40

I spent nights in airports, bus stations, and train stations when I was that age and younger. My parents would not have been at all worried if they had known. Coping with inconvenience can be tiring and strange, but it's part of life, in my opinion, and actually helps us not to assume that things are supposed to run smoothly. I do think that my kids' friends sometimes have trouble telling the difference between that minor inconveniences and deeply troubling threats.

I would class a night in JFK as an inconvenience, but perfectly safe.

I'm a grumpy old person though, and have a tendency to think that 'young people these days' are overly anxious, unable to accept things they can't control, and just generally lacking in resilience. (Not implying that any of these descriptions applies to the OP's daughter though, of course!!!!)

Do you not think that’s a product of parents like OP where they don’t just let their kids try and figure it out themselves? 🤨 I’m Gen Z and my parents have always left me to it so your sweeping generalisation doesn’t apply. It’s so funny how casually ageist people on MN are to younger people but god forbid it happens to someone Gen X or older 🙄

YouJustDoYou · 28/05/2024 06:52

She'll be fine. Learning experience.

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