To think Cornwall has gone down market?

I think everyone should be allowed to rent out one property and one property only. Long term let or Airbnb but you only get one choice. Stop renting being an industry and get houses back in the ownership of residents again.

Mind you day trippers are as bad. That report on Venice a previous poster linked to is scary. It literally has become a functioning theme park. It's now down to a quarter of its population that it had in the 1950's. 51, 000 residents vs 20 MILLION annual tourists.

Yes, AirBnB needs more regulation for sure. We have so, so many hotels/caravan sites, etc on the LIncolnshire coast for people to stay. Now they are coming to the Wolds. Just in my v. small village, the village stately home is let out for weddings, my neighbours have 2 Air BnBs, another is putting glamping shepherd’s huts on his land outside the village, the pub has lets and a new build for more in the pub car park, across the road in the next hamlet, the large farmhouse there is all Air Bnbs. How many do we need? The ridiculous thing is of course, that people come once, and don’t return. There is literally nothing to do unless you drive a distance. Young people from here have no chance of living out here anymore. If you object to the council about this, they say the local economy in unsustainable unless it is wall to wall tourism. I don’t think so. It is unsustainable to have crowds come in when there is no infrastructure, like decent roads to support it. The effects on the environment are awful. The local council already says it has no plans to improve them or increase services, and I suspect just wants the tax revenue.

Anglesey has a problem now. Once it was Abersoch people latched onto. Got so expensive visitors started buying up further along the coast. Then Rhosneigr, which everyone was priced out of so it's spreading out along the coastline there.

In the winter it's dead, in the summer OMG the traffic. The price of houses apartments.

It's destroyed some communities.

I appreciate we need tourism but understand that Europe doesn't need the badly behaved, basically skint, out to get drunk crowd.

Lisbon I read this week when the government deruglated rent controls locals had to leave and Airbnb went wild.

And areas that are not tourist areas are starting to be hawked as tourist sites. Lincolnshire Wolds for instance. It is a rural farming community with a few market towns, some walking/biking but that’s it. We’d like to keep it that way.

It's a burden on any area, country. People used to take one holiday a year, now it's two or three. Add in long weekends and short breaks, tourist areas are being hammered.

This article is interesting on the very similar problems that tourism creates for local people globally. It’s a tension though isn’t it. Even with our ongoing economic crisis in cost of living standards and the long term collapse in living standards in the UK, a lot of us are still going to want to do our very best to proritise to provide holidays for ourselves and our kids.

It’s very understandable emotionally. When things are hard at home, we desperately want and need the break of a holiday, and to give that treat of a holiday to our kids, and to experience travel to see new places, even though holidays look set to get more and more expensive and pressured. That in itself inevitably causes problems for local people finding affordable places to live unless we massively up the building of rural homes, which tourism wouldn’t necessarily support.

It would also imply the pattern long term economically will be that UK staycationers and HK daytrippers who can’t afford an overnight stay, will continue to visit local destinations. So the downward pressure on local spend for some people locally at the UK tourist spots but they will still want to visit. Plus that local housing affordability and pressure on destination infrastructure will continue to be a massive challenge in the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl55vdjv2j3o

What are you implying!? 🤣

Give me the Lakes any day over Cornwall!

Didn't Mrs Cameron give birth unexpectedly in Cornwall?

I hear Rishi is in Cornwall at the moment. It’s definitely gone downhill.

I went to Newquay in 1976 a friend had a summer job there. Stayed in a B&B dragon landlady. I was twenty a country mouse.

What struck me on early morning walks before breakfast were the council wagons picking up litter and spraying the streets with water every single day.

I just thought well our council don't do that never guessing that it might have been the puking visitors previously ill on scrumpy.

It was grim in a B&B then with all the rules and 10pm curfew. I had to be out by 10 am not returning before 6pm. For a wash, then lock up 10 PM.

Newquay have made a massive effort to police the behaviour of private school kids that used to flood the town before the state schools broke up.
Board masters is still a teenage mess though.

I remember going to Newquay about 15 years ago and was shocked by the drunken debauchery. There were people vomiting in the street. A man exposing his arse to every one who walked past. Some women fighting in the street. I suppose not that different to the rest of the UK on a Saturday night!
I'm nearly 50 and even as a child I remember people of all classes going to Cornwall. It was never a middle class holiday destination. It's always been very mixed.

I always wonder why people in Devon and Cornwall moan so much about Emmet's and Grockles, but North Yorkshire, which gets just as many tourists, particularly in York, is so much friendlier and more accepting. Maybe its just because the county is so huge, so the tourists are spread out.

If you think that's bad, you should try being an innocent punter in an Oxford pub when the Bullingdon Club bursts in.

Think Liverpool vs Juventus in 1995 but with posh accents and the odd title. Horrible, terrifying.

And they're the 'right kind of people' too. Boorishness is not class based after all. Who'da thunk it?

Love it when I hear 'the EU poured huge amounts in....' Who was it in the EU - Bulgaria (outside toilets), Romania (spare some change), Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia (so poor it hurts) - Western European countries, propping up the EU, poured money into Cornwall, it should read.

And that was why immediately post covid the demographic shifted - the people who normally flew to Benidorm found themselves in Cornwall and tried to have a similar “brits abroad” type holiday.

Poor guy - I hope his living conditions have since improved.

Not just serving, but saving. A lifeguard friend of mine, patrolled one of the most dangerous beaches, was living in his car after being kicked out of his rental so it could be airbnb'd. Imagine, living in your car to then go to work to save the lives of people who refuse to listen to you. Same guy who organised patrols of the same beach during lockdowns when the 2nd homeowners descended (rules didn't apply to them) & when the RNLI refused to cover the beaches when the lockdowns were lifted & the zones were in place (remember when cornwall had next to no covid & the south-east had shitloads so they all came here?)

One day a couple of years ago he alone rescued 7 people from a brutal rip (ignoring the flags obvs). He did that, finished his shift... Went back to his sodding car.

A farmer today complained about the mess left by the bank holiday visitors yet again. It was in Snowdonia national park, there are wild ponies up there as well as other wild creatures. He collected up visitors rubbish which included a torn tent and abandoned sleeping bags.

Others then put up pictures of bottles, disposable plates, cutlery, etc that volunteers were cleaning up today in other areas

It does leave a bad taste in the mouth.

@Livelovebehappy Can't you tell just by the prices? You have to be well off to rent a holiday place and eat.

There's a whole other topic for people to have a field day on.

Topless men walking down the road
Taking your children to evening entertainment at "the club" and letting them fall asleep in their buggy with a dummy in
Amusement arcades
Parents sitting drinking whilst the kids run feral....

Any more?

I’ve never noticed them, or been aware of it when visiting. But having said that, it’s not something I would give a thought to, as I tend to focus on my family and what we’re doing, rather than noticing if someone is carrying a Gucci bag, or wearing Prada shades.

I'm sure the Northeners go to France you are right get bloody everywhere 😂

@Handfreeumbrella

start your own post, maybe under ' parenting '