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To not make my son have his vaccine?

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Funkytuna · 27/05/2024 19:01

Hello all
So my 13 year old (ADHD and Autistic) was recently supposed to have his HPV vaccine in school. He point blank refused so it was rescheduled for the may half term at the local clinic. However, he is still very much refusing to have the vaccine. I've explained what its for and how serious cancer is (not that he needs me to tbh). But he is so stubborn its unreal. How would other parents deal with this? Both my children have always been up to date on their vaccines and I want him to take his health seriously. That being said it is his body and I cant physically force him.

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AllPrincessAnneshorses · 29/05/2024 18:14

S0livagant · 29/05/2024 05:56

Women have the choice to be vaccinated and who they have sex with. Men and women, girls and boys, all have bodily autonomy.

Because he's going to be honest and risk not getting his end away? Suure.
Yes, all have bodily autonomy. And social responsibilities. Both.

S0livagant · 29/05/2024 05:56

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 28/05/2024 21:32

Yeah, they'll just give it to female partners with the associated cancer risk, but 🙄who cares so long as the boys are OK...

Women have the choice to be vaccinated and who they have sex with. Men and women, girls and boys, all have bodily autonomy.

RampantIvy · 28/05/2024 22:35

My DH doesn't believe in vaccines so the kids have never had one. When they grow up, they can decide themselves

@CowboyJoanna I don't even know where to begin with this. Is he a flat earther as well?

How does he think that smallpox around the world was eradicated? Magic?
Why is polio so rare these days? Did it just disappear of its own accord?

Did he fail his science GCSEs/O levels?

Why does it have to be your hsband's decision? You are a parent as well. Do you not "believe in vaccines" either or could you not have just had your DC vaccinated anyway. If any of your DC are girls do you even know how dangerous it is for pregnant women to catch measles ot chicken pox?

Can I suggest that you educate yourself on vaccinations.

I did the first MMR but not the second, because I concluded the booster wasn't worth the risks over benefits

@marie3e The risks of brain damage caused by measles induced encephalitis are higher than by not vaccinating. HTH.

Lavengro · 28/05/2024 22:34

CowboyJoanna · 28/05/2024 14:14

YANBU. His body, his choice.

My DH doesn't believe in vaccines so the kids have never had one. When they grow up, they can decide themselves

Why is your DH in sole charge of the decision-making? What do you think?

TheTigerWhoCameToEatMyHusband · 28/05/2024 21:52

This thread has really made me appreciate my adhd diagnosed 11 year old I'm very lucky, this must be really stressful for other parents. She some how missed one of her vaccines during a relocation. I just told her she had the doctors after school for a jab. I had one booked for something else myself so we went together. She watched me have mine and sat and had hers and we left no dramas. No argument, no bribery was told she needed it and that was that. She will be told she needs the hpv vaccine and she will be having it. After having cancer myself it's very important to me that she has this vaccine. I don't think at 12/13 they can actually make an informed decision if they need something or they don't that's my job until she's an adult surely.

Gettingannoyednow · 28/05/2024 21:38

You can't force him to an invasive medical procedure which isn't even for his own benefit!

If it's the Gardasil vaccine it will help protect him from HPV-caused mouth, throat, penile and anal cancers, as well as genital warts. But I agree that he should not be forced into it.

BillyWhitney · 28/05/2024 21:37

AllTheChaos · 28/05/2024 20:09

It will apply to anyone who has sex with men though. And for lesbians it’s worth knowing that a dental dam may not be adequate protection. I raised it because I thought barrier protection would suffice (and was far too old for the HPV jab) and I contracted HPV, and then I got cancer. Which was successfully treated but still not something I would want anyone else to experience if it was avoidable. I just think maybe it’s an area where some of us don’t really know? Maybe I’m just old and out of touch 😂

Probably is something people don’t know… we had it drummed into us at school although I’m too old for the school vaccine too.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 28/05/2024 21:35

CowboyJoanna · 28/05/2024 14:14

YANBU. His body, his choice.

My DH doesn't believe in vaccines so the kids have never had one. When they grow up, they can decide themselves

Your DH is a blithering idiot and you knowingly put your children's lives at risk.

Disgusting.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 28/05/2024 21:32

S0livagant · 27/05/2024 19:13

Male cancers associated with HPV are rare. Most men will clear the virus without any health problems. I would leave it up to him.

Yeah, they'll just give it to female partners with the associated cancer risk, but 🙄who cares so long as the boys are OK...

SplitFountainPen · 28/05/2024 21:32

ageratum1 · 28/05/2024 16:18

You can't force him to an invasive medical procedure which isn't even for his own benefit!

It is for his own benefit. The impact of supporting a partner though cancer is huge.

AllTheChaos · 28/05/2024 21:30

Incidentally, if this helps anyone, for my needle phobia, when I need to have an injection / bloods taken, I use Emla cream, and take Valium (prescribed whenever I have an injection). I also have headphones and listen to really loud music. It really helps. With those I can force myself to stay still rather than running away / biting people (I did say the phobia was mortifying, it makes me act in absurd ways)

SplitFountainPen · 28/05/2024 21:30

Take all forceful pressure off and go the bribery route, hard.
Offer a few things and then say to him it's completely up to him but to let you know if he decides he wants it booked and then you'll arrange bribery trip/item for once its done.

AllTheChaos · 28/05/2024 21:28

It’s interesting that there seems to be a link between ASD and needle phobia. I have a needle phobia and it is mortifying, and I discovered as an adult that I am autistic (when getting offspring diagnosed). Said offspring is also phobic.

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:57

(Across populations)

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:57

@SwingTheMonkey brain damage. I felt the first vaccine was necessary, giving 80- 95 per cent immunity to measles

SwingTheMonkey · 28/05/2024 20:55

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:51

You know what they are

I don’t. That’s why I asked.

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:51

SwingTheMonkey · 28/05/2024 20:51

What are the risks of the booster that outweigh the benefits?

You know what they are

SwingTheMonkey · 28/05/2024 20:51

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:30

I did the first MMR but not the second, because I concluded the booster wasn't worth the risks over benefits

What are the risks of the booster that outweigh the benefits?

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:31

I didn't get my kids the covid vaccine for the same reason

marie3e · 28/05/2024 20:30

I did the first MMR but not the second, because I concluded the booster wasn't worth the risks over benefits

AllTheChaos · 28/05/2024 20:09

BillyWhitney · 28/05/2024 09:42

Condoms don’t enter my world, I’m a dyke.

It will apply to anyone who has sex with men though. And for lesbians it’s worth knowing that a dental dam may not be adequate protection. I raised it because I thought barrier protection would suffice (and was far too old for the HPV jab) and I contracted HPV, and then I got cancer. Which was successfully treated but still not something I would want anyone else to experience if it was avoidable. I just think maybe it’s an area where some of us don’t really know? Maybe I’m just old and out of touch 😂

footgoldcycle · 28/05/2024 17:30

CowboyJoanna · 28/05/2024 14:14

YANBU. His body, his choice.

My DH doesn't believe in vaccines so the kids have never had one. When they grow up, they can decide themselves

Does he believe children die from measles!

I have a severely immunosuppressed child. Measles and maybe other illness could kill them. Your husband and you by default are purely selfish

hairtonup · 28/05/2024 17:03

Bumblebeeinatree · 27/05/2024 20:16

Just tell him to suck it up it will be fine, when did these become children's decision.

Edited

Roughly around the same time we started giving children autonomy over their own bodies. Do keep up.

ageratum1 · 28/05/2024 16:18

You can't force him to an invasive medical procedure which isn't even for his own benefit!

wendycupcakes · 28/05/2024 16:09

MissyB1 · 28/05/2024 13:09

You are to blame for being utterly selfish, you and your kids benefit from other people taking their responsibilities seriously and doing the right thing. But you can't be arsed 🙄

Thank you for your input.

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