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To not tell discuss my Sexually Transmitted Infection with people who may have caught it?

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Hoolet · 26/05/2024 15:05

I think I have an STI and plan to tell the person I caught it from.

I know of other women he has been sleeping with around the time of our fling. He is the sort of person to find any difficult conversation too difficult to have at all. I am certain he won’t tell them.

AIBU to think this is not my problem?

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Hoolet · 30/05/2024 17:31

I don’t think I can fib. Once I’m in the story, I’m in the story if you know what I mean. I’d prefer people not to know I went there.

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muggart · 27/05/2024 22:34

Could you message them from an anonymous FB account instead?

Or fib a little and tell them he admitted he was positive to you but you've got lucky and tested negative but thought they should know anyway.

Ophie · 27/05/2024 20:53

Maddy70 · 26/05/2024 23:34

The comments outraged following this comment are suck in the 90s. There is treatment now that makes it impossible to pass it on. There really isnt a need to tell anyone

I disagree with this, if someone knowingly has HIV then they should be disclosing it to their sexual partners so they can make an informed choice on whether or not they consent to that. It’s not about the stigmatisation, as we all know there is medications and provisions you can take nowadays but more so the element of choice of whether you trust that individual enough to have taken their medication properly, regularly and if you yourself are happy to take that small risk. What if the condom broke the the individual didn’t know they may need to go and get some Prep medication or what if they’re immunosuppressive? And the risk of them getting more sick is higher, surely they deserve the chance to consent fully?

LuckysDadsHat · 27/05/2024 06:35

Maddy70 · 26/05/2024 23:34

The comments outraged following this comment are suck in the 90s. There is treatment now that makes it impossible to pass it on. There really isnt a need to tell anyone

I lost my best friend to AIDS in 1993. I have campaigned against the stigma for HIV and AIDS sufferers ever since, I am still outraged that a positive patient, even with no detectable viral load, is still not being upfront and possibly having sex without a condom and without the consent of the other person. They may consent to sex with a healthy person, it doesn't mean they consent to sex with a person with HIV however small the risk to themselves.

It seems people think these days due to the amazing advances in treatments for HIV that it is still not a major disease.

DaniMontyRae · 26/05/2024 23:52

greenpolarbear · 26/05/2024 20:18

I have a friend with HIV and he doesn't tell the people he sleeps with that he has it, so I really think that just telling the person you actually slept with is fine and probably better than average.

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Wouldn't recommend the OP take moral advice from someone who could be friends with a man who doesn't inform his sexual partners of his hiv status. I really hope your friend is at least using condoms and/or taking medication because otherwise he may be breaking the law.

DaniMontyRae · 26/05/2024 23:47

Maddy70 · 26/05/2024 23:34

The comments outraged following this comment are suck in the 90s. There is treatment now that makes it impossible to pass it on. There really isnt a need to tell anyone

Yeah, sure, no need for consent anymore. What a joke. All it takes is for the person with hiv to get lax with taking their medication and their viral load can become detectable again and able to infect others.

nocoolnamesleft · 26/05/2024 23:37

maudelovesharold · 26/05/2024 23:35

Would you do the same if you saw a boiler rolling down the hill towards them, or if you could see they were about to be scammed.

I know this isn’t the point at all, but just puzzled about a boiler rolling down the hill?

I suspect they mean boulder.

maudelovesharold · 26/05/2024 23:35

Would you do the same if you saw a boiler rolling down the hill towards them, or if you could see they were about to be scammed.

I know this isn’t the point at all, but just puzzled about a boiler rolling down the hill?

Maddy70 · 26/05/2024 23:34

greenpolarbear · 26/05/2024 20:18

I have a friend with HIV and he doesn't tell the people he sleeps with that he has it, so I really think that just telling the person you actually slept with is fine and probably better than average.

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The comments outraged following this comment are suck in the 90s. There is treatment now that makes it impossible to pass it on. There really isnt a need to tell anyone

LadyHavelockVetinari · 26/05/2024 23:28

LuckysDadsHat · 26/05/2024 20:39

It is never fine to have sex with anyone when you have any disease without disclosure. It is just wrong.

Jesus Christ it's a minefield out there. I wonder if this man would lie if asked directly?

LuckysDadsHat · 26/05/2024 20:39

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/05/2024 20:33

Depends whether he's contagious or not. Most HIV positive people in the UK who are properly medicated aren't contagious.

Personally I'd err on the side of disclosure but if you've got an undetectable viral load then a lot of people would argue that it's fine not to.

It is never fine to have sex with anyone when you have any disease without disclosure. It is just wrong.

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/05/2024 20:33

TomatoSandwiches · 26/05/2024 20:29

How could you be friends with someone that blasé? How does he justify his POV?

Does he use protection? Does he tell them if they ask if he has an STI/STD?

Depends whether he's contagious or not. Most HIV positive people in the UK who are properly medicated aren't contagious.

Personally I'd err on the side of disclosure but if you've got an undetectable viral load then a lot of people would argue that it's fine not to.

TomatoSandwiches · 26/05/2024 20:29

greenpolarbear · 26/05/2024 20:18

I have a friend with HIV and he doesn't tell the people he sleeps with that he has it, so I really think that just telling the person you actually slept with is fine and probably better than average.

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How could you be friends with someone that blasé? How does he justify his POV?

Does he use protection? Does he tell them if they ask if he has an STI/STD?

Missmarple87 · 26/05/2024 20:24

greenpolarbear · 26/05/2024 20:18

I have a friend with HIV and he doesn't tell the people he sleeps with that he has it, so I really think that just telling the person you actually slept with is fine and probably better than average.

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Wtaf?! Wasn't someone prosecuted for this recently?

greenpolarbear · 26/05/2024 20:18

I have a friend with HIV and he doesn't tell the people he sleeps with that he has it, so I really think that just telling the person you actually slept with is fine and probably better than average.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 26/05/2024 19:39

Can you make an anonymous Facebook profile and message them? It's really the right thing to do to tell them.

Ophie · 26/05/2024 19:26

Scarletttulips · 26/05/2024 17:22

It also prevents the further spread, for those women could go and pass it onto others causing more issues

How do you think OP caught in the first place?

If OP caught it from this man who was sleeping around unsafely with subsequent women and they’re aware they need to be tested as the risk they all have it is high then it nips it before it becomes super spread. Obviously there’s a chance that this man has caught it from one of the women, potentially she’s got no symptoms and so isn’t aware she’s passing it on regardless it’s a vicious cycle where if none get tested regularly or have safe sex someone along the lines will always end up carrying something🤷🏻‍♀️ For me personally I’d rather send the awkward message and let them know that I’m going to get tested as I’m aware both slept with xyz and leave it at that really.

Maddy70 · 26/05/2024 18:04

ScottBakula · 26/05/2024 15:12

While every adult should be aware a STIc could be a problem if you have sex with someone obviously some just dont care .

However if you are absolutely sure he has had sex with them i think you should let them know as he may of caught off them or given it to them and it could cause fertility problems

This

LuckysDadsHat · 26/05/2024 17:56

I feel for you OP, but please please put your own health first and never ever have unprotected sex in the future with a new partner/one night stand.

HIV is on the rise, and you do not want that! It sounds like you have been lucky (I know it doesn't feel like it now) this time, but unsafe sex is putting your health at serious risk.

I would tell the other women as I would want to know so I can get treated. You don't know who they may be passing it on to as it seems a lot of you may be at risk of catching life changing diseases by not having safe sex.

takemeawayagain · 26/05/2024 17:49

It's not your problem, it's his problem - unfortunately he sounds like a complete bellend so there's no easy answer.

ButterCrackers · 26/05/2024 17:41

It’s not your problem. Get yourself better. Ask the clinic if you have to tell your ex partner. If it’s life threatening such as hiv or hepatitis then do tell your ex. I think that the clinic would reach out to him in this case.

Bobbotgegrinch · 26/05/2024 17:38

Does it matter whether it's your problem? You know that something bad could happen to these people and yet you're happy just to stand by and not warn them.

Would you do the same if you saw a boiler rolling down the hill towards them, or if you could see they were about to be scammed.

It's not your responsibility. Its not your fault. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be a decent person and tell them anyway.

SwayingOnThePorchSwing · 26/05/2024 17:36

Scarletttulips · 26/05/2024 17:24

It’s on them to get tested regularly if they’re having unprotected sex

Its a bit like couples using the morning after pill to prevent pregnancy.

Prevention is better than cure.

Yes, which is why it’s also on them to use condoms in the first place. If they choose not, they then need to be pro active with regular STI testing.

Their sexual health isn’t OPs responsibility.

Scarletttulips · 26/05/2024 17:24

It’s on them to get tested regularly if they’re having unprotected sex

Its a bit like couples using the morning after pill to prevent pregnancy.

Prevention is better than cure.

Scarletttulips · 26/05/2024 17:22

It also prevents the further spread, for those women could go and pass it onto others causing more issues

How do you think OP caught in the first place?

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