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DH didn’t come home… again

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Roonil · 26/05/2024 14:14

Please help me make sense of what’s going on with DH. Will try keep it as brief as possible.

We have 2 DC - one is 4, one is 6 months.

I’ve forgiven him for a lot over the years (together 10 years), and since we had our eldest he’s gone AWOL on me a few times after nights out with his mates. Well, last night he did it again. I woke up with the baby in the early hours and he wasn’t home, so sent a message asking where he was. No reply. Up with baby again about an hour and a half later, again no reply. Tried to call with next wake up, didn’t pick up. By this point it was about 5.30am - everything would have been closed. He went out in the afternoon. If he’d have responded ‘in a bar/at friend’s house, be home later’ or just ANYTHING it would’ve been fine, but it was the ignoring that bothered me. He would’ve just not come home with zero contact if I hadn’t pushed it.

Next time I woke with baby (we’re both ill with Covid and she’s EBF, so I’ve done all night feeds for 6 months and am knackered/feeling shit) I sent a message saying I was locking the front door. Miraculously he responded straight away. Claimed he had been trying to get home for “hours” but his bank cards had been “blocked”. I told him how upset/angry I was and that he should have just messaged me, etc. etc., and he told me I was “locking him out of his home” and that “this is your decision, not mine” - as if I’m ending the relationship. Feels like he’s trying to push me to leave?

When I said again that I was upset and he needed to stop being so irresponsible at 36, he responded “cry me a fucking river.”

Even if his story is true, why not respond? If you were stuck, surely you’d be on your phone trying to sort a solution? But also, he could’ve gone home with friends who live in the same direction, or asked one of them to book him an Uber and pay them back. Also thinking if it’s true, he’s blown an awful lot of money… why else would his cards stop working other than the accounts being emptied?

He’s still not made an appearance. No idea where he is. Had to tell eldest DC that daddy wasn’t home this morning because he’s having a sleepover with his friend.

I spoke to a friend about it this morning, and they said it comes across like he just doesn’t care about being with me or being a family man. To me it’s the latest example of him choosing the single lifestyle over his family, and expecting me to just be there and not question him about anything, ever.

I feel like he’s gradually treating me worse and worse, but it’s heightened since I went on maternity leave, when I’m more vulnerable. But then I don’t know if he’s that calculating…

I wouldn’t mind as much if this was a one off, but he’s got form for irresponsible partying type behaviour and, like I said, has pulled disappearing acts before.

But then part of me thinks maybe I am just going crazy and being harsh.

Am I overreacting?

OP posts:
Henrysotherwoman · 27/05/2024 10:20

He sounds selfish and childish. And controlling. You and your children deserve much better xx

amandaleeds · 27/05/2024 10:18

" I told him how upset/angry I was and that he should have just messaged me, etc. etc., and he told me I was “locking him out of his home” and that “this is your decision, not"

This is totally gaslighting!! I wasted 5 years with someone like this, thankfully not married and no kids but he used to treat me like this and I just took it. I'm so angry for my younger self and in another life I might have found someone else and had kids (now too late and other relationships since didn't work, partly because that one totally messed up my idea of how a relationship would be).

He does not deserve you or your children until he sorts himself out and grows up.

SlebBB · 27/05/2024 10:15

He’s pushing you to finish it. Men rarely leave a relationship to be alone. My guess is that his next conquest is lined up.

theansweris42 · 27/05/2024 09:54

The Cry me a fucking river reply is telling and chilling.

I had a P like this. We had 2 DC 16 months apart. He carried on with his big city big money lifestyle.

We moved country and he didn't have the network and the friends to have that life and stay out all night. So he became angry and negative, more contrilling and critical of me. He loathed me being off with babies and not working. He just wanted his lifestyle back.

So even if you find a way to prevent him behaving this way it'll only be for a time and it won't change who is is and how he feels about family life.

Flowerssending support OP

Naunet · 27/05/2024 09:52

This man has zero respect for you, doesn’t love you, is lying to you and is probably cheating on you. He treats you like shit, he’s a bad father and you’re both setting an awful example for the children. You need to leave him, if not for yourself, then for the children. Move back to your parents and sell the house.

dressagediva84 · 27/05/2024 09:45

He wants you to dump him so he doesn't have to do it.

Best of luck - you'll be so glad you got rid of him this time in 6 months when you look back.

JFDIYOLO · 27/05/2024 09:44

They often show their true colours during pregnancy and early years.

The realisation the world doesn't revolve around them can be taken as a personal insult.

Their immaturity leads to complete inability to cope with the needs of a helpless child and new baby.

Their mummy taking their side and throwing insults suggests a boy who has not grown up.

And the fact that your attention must now be elsewhere, so you have of course changed - that is somehow a fault, resented instead of celebrated.

This all happens a lot.

WhosDrawnOnTheWallAgain · 27/05/2024 09:28

OP you need to get angry and assertive. The signs are already apparent that you’re putting another coin in the merry-go-round:

  1. You’re seeking his account for his actions
  2. You’re defending his infrequent socialising

Truth is, it doesn’t matter. It also doesn’t matter whether drugs, alcohol, gambling, infidelity or anything is at the root of his behaviour. You’re at risk of explaining his behaviour away by focusing on, and ultimately ascribing it to to cocaine or whatever. In doing so, detaching your DH from his actions. Therefore he evades accountability and responsibility - so not his fault.

Instead of twisting yourself into an emotional pretzel trying to work out the cause, and then working through a pointless plan on how to extinguish it as the way of ‘having your husband back’ I kindly suggest that you focus on what you know for sure:

  1. The way he treats you
  2. How he speaks to you
  3. That he gaslights you
  4. How he disregards your DC
  5. … and so on

Make a list as it will have an important role for YOUR onward actions and decisions. The List will help you connect with his shitty behaviour and to admit it to yourself. Then, look at that list, really study it and connect with how each one makes you feel.

Ask yourself whether The List represents model behaviours for your children to act like or to tolerate. Don’t get rid of the list, get rid of the person behind the behaviour in the list - or own your part and decision to keep adding to it and for making it a part of you and your DC life.

I understand your torment and feelings of disillusionment OP; I know it might feel scary, but staying won’t take away the fear from your relationship. Sending you strength.

supersop60 · 27/05/2024 09:11

OP. This one phrase helped me turn around my thinking:-
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT

It's him and his faulty personality. He has needs and wants that you can't possibly meet and that's not your fault.
People on here have some good advice about what to do next.

OhBeAFineGuyKissMe · 27/05/2024 09:09

I’m sorry you are going through this. He won’t change. He and a chance to and chose not to.

The choice is now yours:
stay and accept that this is how he will be
leave him.

As it doesn’t seem like he will move out then you will have to. Move to your parents, yes there isn’t enough space but it will only be temporary until you get yourself better placed.

And be prepared for flying monkeys (his mum, brother etc…) who have only heard his side of the story and have a biased view (this behaviour might have been embedded for generations).

gardenmusic · 27/05/2024 08:54

OP, If you are not ready to get rid of him, at least do a little preparation.
Know the finances, search for solicitors where you can get an initial free appointment, important documents copied, especially his earnings and bank accounts. Your valuables removed to a safe place. Your passwords changed. Investigate CSA/universal credit. Just know. Knowledge is power. You don't have to use it, but don't end up blindsided.
Other posters will have a better idea of the preparation you need.

SillyMe2345 · 27/05/2024 08:49

I'm so sorry, it sounds like you've internalised all his nonsense and are actually questioning if its unreasonable for someone to a) go have fun while their wife is knackered and EBF and really needs a break, b) still do this while wife and baby have actual covid and his 4 year old also needs cared for (wtf would have happened if you or baby got worse? if baby's fever spiked and you needed to go to hospital?), c)show zero remorse and use the situation to highlight how you could be working harder to make him happier (really, really curious as to what his suggestions were, and where he gets the actual audacity for this).

Yes, life would be wonderful if he stepped up, but you and the kids will be fine, he'll be the one missing out. I think you'll be surprised how nice it can be when your friends and family are supporting you, rather than being gaslighted by this man-shaped sack of entitlement.

Hoping for the best of things for you ahead and the kids. And I hope the next time he's sleeping at the train station, he gets bitten by a wild fox and the footage goes viral.

meeeeeeshel · 27/05/2024 08:48

Roonil · 26/05/2024 15:18

It’s good to know I’m not losing my mind. Sometimes I worry I overreact/am too harsh where I’m so tired.

Classic gaslighting to make you feel like you're losing your mind.

I'm so sorry OP but he is scum. It might be hard initially but long term you will feel soooo much better getting rid of him! I can't believe he went out all night and not even an apology just made it all your fault!!!

Dottielottie123 · 27/05/2024 08:46

It will be cocaine 100%. In a day or so he will be at the depressed stage of his comedown and you and the kids will be the best thing that ever happened to him, bla bla. Sad
to say, he will never change. I put up with this for years longer than I would like
to admit, he’s still doing it now to his wife after me. Unless you want to live like this forever, I honestly would start putting plans into place.

DontBiteTheCat · 27/05/2024 08:43

I am sorry OP, but it does read like you’re just going to be mad for a day or two then let it go again. He is playing you like an absolute fool and you’re letting him.

He is either on coke, or cheating, or both. He has a wife and kids at home and is out all night, talking to you like shit and then twisting it to make you out to be the bad one? That is abusive.

You need to stop tolerating this shit, he’s walking all over you and you’re letting him.

Roonil · 27/05/2024 08:43

WomanMumLoverDaughterStepmumFriend · 27/05/2024 08:39

I’m really sorry you are upset but he is walking all over you.
Why do you tolerate that ? A 36 years old should not be going out at weekends to get pissed with friends . I never got the co copy of men going to pubs while women say home with the kids . He clearly doesn’t love you , you need to do better for your boys and yourself and leave him once and for all . What sort if example is he giving to your children ? That treating women this way is ok ?

You’re totally right.
he doesn’t go out often, to be fair. But when he does it pretty much always ends badly

OP posts:
WomanMumLoverDaughterStepmumFriend · 27/05/2024 08:39

I’m really sorry you are upset but he is walking all over you.
Why do you tolerate that ? A 36 years old should not be going out at weekends to get pissed with friends . I never got the co copy of men going to pubs while women say home with the kids . He clearly doesn’t love you , you need to do better for your boys and yourself and leave him once and for all . What sort if example is he giving to your children ? That treating women this way is ok ?

6pence · 27/05/2024 08:37

Tell him you are splitting. That either you and the kids move out or he does. Tell him if he loves his kids then he’ll want them to stay in the house. His choice, but it’s finished.
If he’s concerned at all about what he looks like to family and friends, then he won’t try to stay in the house.

Either way I’d make sure everyone knows that yes he did buy you flowers, but yet again he stayed out all night, didn’t communicate etc. That this is a repeating pattern and you’ve had enough. Don’t let the little shit blame you. Don’t be emotive, just factual. But try to get him out of the house first.

Roonil · 27/05/2024 08:31

SpicyMoth · 26/05/2024 22:33

Apologies if this has been asked already as I've not rtft, just OP's posts and tbf I suppose the answers to these questions don't even really matter now all things considered from OP's updates - But I'm SO confused why he expected you to leave the door unlocked all night, what if some rando off the street was trying his luck and happened upon an open, unlocked house?

He's seemingly totally okay with his wife and young children sleeping in an unlocked house all night where anything could happen if some loon decided to try their luck?

Then he had a hissy fit essentially when he discovered that you did in fact lock up? (The obviously right and safe thing to do!)

Also, does he not have his own house keys????

All of that alone is massive "WTF flag's" to me, let alone red ones.

Sorry, by lock the door I mean put the latch on. Which we do every night

OP posts:
Roonil · 27/05/2024 08:27

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 27/05/2024 08:10

I had these exact things said to me. (It's like they have a phrase book)

In my case he was a cheating alcoholic.

My ex-DH used to be on a high too before going out. I eventually figured out he was on a high because he was going to meet OW.

Look after yourself. Your family will support you. Don't be worried about "don't really have enough room". Your mum will make room. He's relying on you feeling you can't leave. Show him you can. It might be the incentive he needs to grow up and you can salvage your marriage if you want. Or it might just free you up to live a life without all this BS

Yes it does seem to be the same lines again and again. Hope you’re doing well now x

OP posts:
Bellsbeachwaves · 27/05/2024 08:26

Agree with what others on here are saying. He's turning it round on you in a spectacular fashion. Wants you to dump him etc. Mine did same. Extraordinary. Made my eyes bleed. Divorced a number of years now. Living a much better life free from him. His next relationship was a total car crash. Can't believe I've got to remain in contact because of the kids but it's very boundaried. Mumsnet has a lot of wisdom on this topic. Chumplady was also good. Best of luck.

Roonil · 27/05/2024 08:26

Ydkiml · 27/05/2024 07:47

How you feeling this morning op . ? Did he come back lastnight . Sorry you are going through this .

I’m ok thanks. Still feeling quite rough and was up a lot again last night.
He came back yesterday after I responded to his texts pointing out the irony of him sending them after walking out on his baby again.
I asked where he’d been and he said he didn’t want to tell me. I don’t think he was anywhere dodgy, just trying to make things difficult. Kept going on about me locking him out of his home, like that’s the big issue here.
I felt ill so was acting civil as he refused to find somewhere to stay, he seemed to think that meant it’s all fine and started being overly nice to me.
I asked him to sleep downstairs when I went to bed and he went into a mood again. Not sure how things will be today - probably depends on whether I let this go, in his mind.

OP posts:
BirthdayRainbow · 27/05/2024 08:18

If he is treating you like crap because he wants you to dump him because he wants out but not to be seen as the bad guy, so what? Give him what he wants and what you and the children need.

babyproblems · 27/05/2024 08:12

This is beyond salvageable - he has decided he can’t be arsed and he’s not your partner is he really. You’re doing it all and he can’t even be bothered to send you a text??? Can you see the huge huge disparity here between your actions and his. He isn’t your partner. Lock the door and put yourself first. Best of luck x

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 27/05/2024 08:10

Roonil · 26/05/2024 15:16

He has just messaged from wherever he is.

“Honestly
You won’t let me tell you how I feel.

I admit I’m far from perfect.

We can’t even hold down a conversation anymore.

Then you have the cheek to to say I don’t care”

I had these exact things said to me. (It's like they have a phrase book)

In my case he was a cheating alcoholic.

My ex-DH used to be on a high too before going out. I eventually figured out he was on a high because he was going to meet OW.

Look after yourself. Your family will support you. Don't be worried about "don't really have enough room". Your mum will make room. He's relying on you feeling you can't leave. Show him you can. It might be the incentive he needs to grow up and you can salvage your marriage if you want. Or it might just free you up to live a life without all this BS