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Not to have given up my seat on plane

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Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

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dreaaamm · 26/05/2024 22:15

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 26/05/2024 21:43

I would have done it for about 50 quid

Ooh! That's a great idea if you are asked to move.

Yes but I expect to be reimbursed by you right now for the cost of my own reservation and for the inconvenience. £100 should cover it.

dreaaamm · 26/05/2024 22:14

@Teateaandmoretea Teateaandmoretea · Today 21:19

They were clearly hoping no one would be in the middle seat.

Utter nonsense. As others have said. Some people want a window seat, some people want an aisle seat. Two mentally competent adults are going to choose where they want to sit that suits their preferences. Why should one choose a seat they don't want (the middle seat) if they are paying? It's a flight - even if it's long haul in most cases it's not going to be more than 14 hours or so. It is possible to cope with out being cheek by jowl with your partner/ spouse/friend/relative - assuming well, healthy adults.

NO ONE except an idiot would expect the middle seat would be unoccuppied because flight profit margins are so tight these days (hence charging for every seat reservation, checked bag and breath you take) that flights are scheduled to be overbooked. It's rare these days in economy at least to have many unsold seats.

The people who are banging on about this obviously don't fly very often.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 26/05/2024 21:43

I would have done it for about 50 quid

drusth · 26/05/2024 21:31

Teateaandmoretea · 26/05/2024 21:19

They were clearly hoping no one would be in the middle seat.

It’s not clear at all except in your imagination.

coldcallerbaiter · 26/05/2024 21:22

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 26/05/2024 07:37

Your seat booking was manipulative, hoping for the middle seat to remain free, but I wouldn’t swap a seat I’d paid extra to book unless it was for a better seat so you both were and were not unreasonable.

HTH 😂

Some people want the view from the window, some want the aisle to stretch their legs a bit more or be able to walk around. Not manipulative.

FrenchMustard · 26/05/2024 21:22

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 21:12

Oh yes - I remember those days when EasyJet didn't have allocated seating 🤣🤣🤣

Hahaha elbows out, run as fast as you can to the plane 😂😂😂 every man, woman and child for themselves!!

anotherusernameforthis · 26/05/2024 21:21

I might have considered swapping with her friend in the other aisle seat.

She would then be sat with her fwend (still cannot fathom why a grown adult can’t sit mere inches further away from a friend for a flight, but that is another thread entirely) and you would still have your aisle seat. And still be sat in the same set up of being between two friends.

But ultimately, no - I wouldn’t have swapped on principle, ridiculous behaviour.

Teateaandmoretea · 26/05/2024 21:19

drusth · 26/05/2024 21:12

How does booking an aisle help the friend who wanted a window? Why should she pay £23.99 for a seat she doesn’t want? To make you happy, a stranger?

They were clearly hoping no one would be in the middle seat.

Teateaandmoretea · 26/05/2024 21:17

Ywnbu, and I’m puzzled as to how you consider you could be.

But goady fuckers always pop up wittering on about how families should book seats and thus making them pay more than others. There really is no need and any issues can be avoided by early online check in. My kids are now old enough to sit on their own anyway but this seat booking is a rip off farce.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 21:15

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 26/05/2024 20:11

How about this for entitlement?

On a long haul TUI flight - we’d paid for extra legroom in economy. Everyone loaded and the flight was already running late, when the cabin crew make an announcement that there is a honeymoon couple onboard that want to sit together and unfortunately, if no one volunteers to move to allow this to happen, they will get off the flight which will result in a further delay as their bags will have to be offloaded too!

I assume some very, far more generous person than me agreed to move as we took off very soon afterwards - but again, they’re bloody grownups and would probably spend the whole time at the resort wrapped up in each other anyway, so 9 hours on a flight apart wouldn’t have hurt them. Either that or paid for pre booked seats.

Or maybe their bluff was called and they just sat where their boarding passes told them?

drusth · 26/05/2024 21:12

Itloggedmeoutagain · 26/05/2024 16:58

This
Looks pretty odd to book an aisle and a window

How does booking an aisle help the friend who wanted a window? Why should she pay £23.99 for a seat she doesn’t want? To make you happy, a stranger?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 21:12

FrenchMustard · 26/05/2024 18:21

DH works for easyJet, seating booking is a fucking pain in the arse. Inevitably you always end up with a handful of people who don’t book, prime example is people with young kids. They can’t sit on their own and no one ever volunteers to move so at least one parent is with them, so the flight gets delayed until people are forced to swap. Was far simpler when you got assigned a seat on check in or when you had to leg it to the plane from the gate as there was no allocated seating!!

Oh yes - I remember those days when EasyJet didn't have allocated seating 🤣🤣🤣

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 21:10

Minimili · 26/05/2024 17:31

I recently booked with TUI and tried to book window for me and aisle for DP and it didn’t allow me.
The booking system said you couldn’t leave an empty seat between you.

Last year we booked the day before we flew (different airline) and the plane wasn’t very full so I booked window and aisle because those are our preferred seats. As the plane was nowhere near capacity I expected that we would probably have the row to ourselves as there were plenty of other seats available.
If in that situation someone had been placed between us then DP would offer to swap to the middle so we aren’t really inconveniencing anyone except ourselves as we lose a seat we paid for.

I book and pay for seats as close to the front row as possible so I’m booking for location in the plane as well as seat preference, my DP just sits where I’m happiest, if he ends up in the middle then he does it for me so I can be next to him and have the window seat.
I was absolutely terrified of flying and found sitting at the front of the plane by a window helps with my anxiety, I make sure I book and pay for seats as soon as I can.
Last time we flew was pricey as there were only the extra leg room seats free as it was so last minute but we did get the whole row to ourselves so it was worth paying the extra £100. It’s unlikely the aisle seat will be free this time but as long as we are at the front I don’t mind, it makes sense TUI have the system so you can’t leave a seat between you, it must make it difficult to fill the seats.

Before you could book and pay for selected seating the cabin crew would always try to find me a front window seat because I was so scared of flying. I quite often was allowed to board first so I could find a suitable seat.
I hated feeling like I was being difficult and having special treatment especially if I didn’t get the option to board first and if anyone was asked to switch seats for me. I would never ask myself and if anyone refused I would accept it with complete understanding and try to cope.

I think it makes sense you need to book and pay if you have a preference to avoid having to decide who “deserves” the more desirable seats. If someone is that desperate for the seat you have booked then they would have paid for it at the earliest opportunity.

Yes, I noticed that with TUI airlines - I suspect it's because their clientele are likely to be mostly couples and families. And doing the window + aisle booking wou,d likely result in families and couples being split up and not having the most wondrous start to their holidays

pootlin · 26/05/2024 21:03

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 26/05/2024 20:11

How about this for entitlement?

On a long haul TUI flight - we’d paid for extra legroom in economy. Everyone loaded and the flight was already running late, when the cabin crew make an announcement that there is a honeymoon couple onboard that want to sit together and unfortunately, if no one volunteers to move to allow this to happen, they will get off the flight which will result in a further delay as their bags will have to be offloaded too!

I assume some very, far more generous person than me agreed to move as we took off very soon afterwards - but again, they’re bloody grownups and would probably spend the whole time at the resort wrapped up in each other anyway, so 9 hours on a flight apart wouldn’t have hurt them. Either that or paid for pre booked seats.

In these cases they should kick the couple off the plane and tell them their luggage will catch up with them.

Innocent passengers shouldn’t be held hostage by these twats.

Hope they’re divorced now.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 21:00

Sillystrumpet · 26/05/2024 17:18

When you check in on line if you don’t pay you are just allocated a random seat,the ones no one else wants.you don’t know who is in them, as it is irrelevant.

airline flying is menu pricing. The base level is ticket only, you can then pay for bags if you wish. Or a seat , if not you take the random seats that no one else wants. But you fly for less.

I'm not sure the auto allocation is based on the seats no one wants.

With RyanAir definitely yes - in fact a strapline of their advertising relates to not ending up with the dreaded middle seat. One of my more entertaining RyanAir flights was when there were just six of us on the plane and we were all autoallocated middle seats. Air stewards had to request us to move to the extra legroom seats to man the emergency exits otherwise we couldn't take off.

With EasyJet, however, I've always been allocated an aisle or window seat - could just be luck of the draw

SerafinasGoose · 26/05/2024 21:00

LightandAiry · 26/05/2024 10:18

I did swap twice on a recent flight both times for parents with young children. I felt like not doing it 2nd time I was asked (child was about 12) but the Mum looked very stressed out so I swapped. If we had pre-booked I may have taken a different attitude.

IMO, it's a pity people do this.

If the answer were a default 'no', the CFs would stop imposing themselves on others. And if the justification for doing so is to be kind, then I'd rather be kind to the majority of travellers who do consider others - by sparing them further altercations of this sort - than to the CFs, who don't.

Barney16 · 26/05/2024 20:54

dreaaamm · 26/05/2024 15:29

@Barney16 Barney16 · Today 15:27
I wouldn't swop. And I'm always in the middle because DH is, frankly,too ample to sit anywhere except the aisle. I dream about an aisle seat..

If you want an aisle seat and you are pre-booking seats anyway, why don't you have one across the aisle from you husband? easy to chat across the aisle and then you get your wish.

Great idea. I'm definitely going to do that next time. Tbh, never occurred to me.

Lavenderblossoms · 26/05/2024 20:52

You paid for it. She did not. Yanbu x

WrongWayApricot · 26/05/2024 20:26

I wouldn't want to be sitting between someone I've annoyed and their probably also annoyed family, so I'd swap. YANBU though. I also wouldn't book a seat with my friend but have a non booked seat between us, that would feel weird to me.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 26/05/2024 20:11

How about this for entitlement?

On a long haul TUI flight - we’d paid for extra legroom in economy. Everyone loaded and the flight was already running late, when the cabin crew make an announcement that there is a honeymoon couple onboard that want to sit together and unfortunately, if no one volunteers to move to allow this to happen, they will get off the flight which will result in a further delay as their bags will have to be offloaded too!

I assume some very, far more generous person than me agreed to move as we took off very soon afterwards - but again, they’re bloody grownups and would probably spend the whole time at the resort wrapped up in each other anyway, so 9 hours on a flight apart wouldn’t have hurt them. Either that or paid for pre booked seats.

cherish123 · 26/05/2024 19:35

YADNBU
The woman was really rude to you. I like an aisle seat too.

YouwouldthinkIhavemoresense · 26/05/2024 19:34

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

Edited

Oh leave off . What a ridiculous comment.

Hateliars34 · 26/05/2024 19:32

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/05/2024 18:46

You must be joking ... BA did it to myself and a friend once when they swapped the aircraft on a 9 hour night flight, so instead of the window/centre seats booked at £63 each we got stuck on a centre row of 4

I did ask for the difference in cost to be refunded and answer came there none

But then what was the point of having paid for a specific seat?!

I never pay for seats in advance but if I did and then got the same as people who didn't I'd be fuming!! What was their reason for not refunding you when you didn't get what you specifically paid for?

LumpyandBumps · 26/05/2024 18:47

When I travelled recently with a friend we decided not to sit together as neither of us wanted to pay to sit in the middle seat.
We booked a window seat for me and an aisle seat for her in different rows. I don’t know if it would have been possible to book in the same row as I didn’t try.
A man tried hard to get the man in the aisle seat in front of me to swap with his wife. He really wasn’t taking no for an answer. He kept saying that his wife was just about to get off the plane. He was very vague about her seat and of course it turned out to be a middle one. The man he was trying to swap with was amply built and quite reasonably said he had paid for an aisle seat as he didn’t fit well in a middle seat.
Once everyone had boarded there were some spare seats and the cabin crew found 2 together for the man and his wife.
I have to admit that when I finally saw his wife she did look very stressed. If there was a good reason for him not booking them seats together he didn’t mention it.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/05/2024 18:46

Hateliars34 · 26/05/2024 17:43

I hope BA refunded your seat if you were forced to swap!! Did you tell the flight attendant you specifically paid £24 to have the aisle seat? And did you also mention this to the person who wanted to swap?

You must be joking ... BA did it to myself and a friend once when they swapped the aircraft on a 9 hour night flight, so instead of the window/centre seats booked at £63 each we got stuck on a centre row of 4

I did ask for the difference in cost to be refunded and answer came there none