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Not to have given up my seat on plane

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Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

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Justsaynonow · 27/05/2024 11:04

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 15:50

Here are some of the airlines which on some routes may have this option.

You'll sometimes find it referred to as a 'comfort seat' or 'neighbour free' and prices vary to the full cost of another seat booking or a modest fee for keeping a middle seat clear.

Emirates

Air New Zealand

Etihad

Turkish airlines }
Andalus Jet }

Some of the US airlines

Qantas

Eurowings (budget airline)

Scandinavian Airlines.

But I suggest always speaking with the airline!

I

Air France offered this option once - usually my flights are full though.

dreaaamm · 27/05/2024 11:02

Teateaandmoretea · 27/05/2024 06:49

Wow.

The rudeness on this site really is ridiculous.

There fairly often are free seats outside school holidays. The last flight I took even had a few in the school holidays.

Who’s the idiot now?

You are clearly.

you've just reiterated the point.

"fairly often" does not = always.
"outside of school holidays" = when do you think the majority with children fly?
"a few empty seats" does not = a lot

I was making the point that no one except an idiot would EXPECT the middle seat would be unoccuppied to answer the people saying that two people booking window and aisle MUST be doing it in the EXPECTATION that the middle seat would be empty. I was saying that most people are just choosing their own seats for their own comfort without that expectation because most flights are typically very full. They are businesses aiming for profit and schedule accordingly. They don't want planes taking off with lots of empty seats. If that happens they reduce the flight frequency or capacity. Sure it may be a bonus in that situation if the middle seat is not taken but it would be rare.

The fact the middle seat may be occassionally means that it remains a risk and a gamble not an expectation.

WinterGold · 27/05/2024 10:06

This thread highlights what mugs we were on a 9 hours flight we were on from Miami.

As it was an overnight and we wanted legroom to stretch out a bit, we paid extra for bulkhead seats. When we checked in, we were asked if we would mind giving up our seats for a family travelling with a baby. I agreed because I was, on hindsight, a soft touch and felt it must be tough travelling with a small infant.

I actually wished I had been much more hard nosed and said only if there’s something in it for us. We’d booked the seats months in advance and unless the family were travelling at short notice for an emergency, they probably had the opportunities as us to choose their seats. We ended up stuck in the usual cattle class configuration.

I’m afraid I wouldn’t be as accommodating next time and would stick to my guns much more defiantly.

greengreyblue · 27/05/2024 09:16

It’s not awkward unless they are talking across all the time. OP says they had headphones in.

Pootle23 · 27/05/2024 08:50

karottybagel · 26/05/2024 07:28

I've not said she should sit in the middle. I've not said OP was WRONG. I think however when travelling with someone else that it's polite to sit together or further apart than one seat away. It is not the social norm to create an awkward seat in the middle for one person.

Who cares about social norms.

If one person likes the window seat and the other likes the aisle so be it. It’s up to them as they paid.

We always pay for extra legroom because my DH has a medical issue, however because I’m short people always ask to swap seats. Pisses me off because no, we paid for these seats to ensure we get them.

We’ve had to put up with some right shitty people over the years because they are too tight to pay.

Well either pay up or shut up, if you can’t afford the payment you probably can’t afford the holiday so stop getting into debt and stay at home!

ErrolTheDragon · 27/05/2024 08:25

GordonBlue · 27/05/2024 02:41

This idea that a seat on an aeroplane has intrinsic and measurable value is wild. It's a plane. If you've got a ticket you've got a seat. It's not like you'll stand all the way to Australia if you don't pay extra.

Ah, plane seat threads, the airborne equivalent to parking CFs.Grin

Different seats literally do have a value, as shown by the fact that people are willing to pay more for some. The exit rows with more legroom obvious make a big physical difference to some so they can command a higher premium. If you need to go to the loo a lot or regularly walk around because of DVT risk, you'll want an aisle seat in your group. Middle seats if you're travelling alone can risk being sandwiched between two large strangers.

If none of these factors have value to you then you can save money by taking whatever's left after others have picked.

Scruffily · 27/05/2024 08:23

wintersgold · 26/05/2024 22:55

I'm a nice person and wouldn't have. To each their own

That's not being nice, that's being daft. Why go to the trouble to book a seat if you're going to let anyone else sit in it? Surely if you're that "nice" you don't book, you let everyone else get on first and then just sit in whichever seat is left?

KimberleyClark · 27/05/2024 07:15

I book and pay for seats as close to the front row as possible so I’m booking for location in the plane as well as seat preference, my DP just sits where I’m happiest, if he ends up in the middle then he does it for me so I can be next to him and have the window seat.

Same here, I prefer a window seat and preferably not over the wing. DH always has the middle seat.

Teateaandmoretea · 27/05/2024 06:57

but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

Whats the relevance of this? The airline allowed it. It made them extra ££. If people can do it then they will. It’s pretty meh, the person in the middle didn’t pay the extra, they chose that option (quite sensibly imo)

I think I may have started this and it is probably true but if airlines allow
to pay to book seats then it will happen.

Teateaandmoretea · 27/05/2024 06:53

drusth · 26/05/2024 21:31

It’s not clear at all except in your imagination.

It’s called an opinion, we all have rhem. And it’s still mine 👍🏻

Valeriekat · 27/05/2024 06:52

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

You would only think that if you were someone who does this yourself. No-one wants a middle seat but flights these days are often full.
I always book an aisle seat when traveling, if my husband and I are traveling together we book adjacent aisle seats.

Teateaandmoretea · 27/05/2024 06:49

dreaaamm · 26/05/2024 22:14

@Teateaandmoretea Teateaandmoretea · Today 21:19

They were clearly hoping no one would be in the middle seat.

Utter nonsense. As others have said. Some people want a window seat, some people want an aisle seat. Two mentally competent adults are going to choose where they want to sit that suits their preferences. Why should one choose a seat they don't want (the middle seat) if they are paying? It's a flight - even if it's long haul in most cases it's not going to be more than 14 hours or so. It is possible to cope with out being cheek by jowl with your partner/ spouse/friend/relative - assuming well, healthy adults.

NO ONE except an idiot would expect the middle seat would be unoccuppied because flight profit margins are so tight these days (hence charging for every seat reservation, checked bag and breath you take) that flights are scheduled to be overbooked. It's rare these days in economy at least to have many unsold seats.

The people who are banging on about this obviously don't fly very often.

Wow.

The rudeness on this site really is ridiculous.

There fairly often are free seats outside school holidays. The last flight I took even had a few in the school holidays.

Who’s the idiot now?

Valeriekat · 27/05/2024 06:49

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

Edited

Oh maybe because the middle seat is the least comfortable?
People are just cheeky, cheap and disorganised.

Pickled21 · 27/05/2024 06:47

We've had this happen twice on our honeymoon. First time a couple were say in our seats and wanted to stay because they were on their honeymoon, dh was going to agree till I told them to shift because so were we! Female of said couple kept glaring at me until I told her she was CF and it would be a shame if her face got stick like that.

Second time was a family who wanted to all be in the same row. Mum was with 2 kids, dad was 3 separated by the aisle. We booked our seats specifically and this time dh said no. Their seats were one row behind us anyway so not as if the kids were being split from parents as dad was still sat with them.

We always book our seats as our kids are little and can't sit without us. Dh would rather do it for free at early check in but I'd rather not take the stress that we could be split from one of the kids. I just see it as a cost we have to absorb.

SeatonCarew · 27/05/2024 06:03

dutysuite · 26/05/2024 13:20

But airlines seem to deliberately separate families to force them to pay.

They deliberately separate everybody to get them to pay.

IncompleteSenten · 27/05/2024 05:52

Caketea · 26/05/2024 22:36

I’m just a nice person and would have moved. ‘Do to others as you’d have them do to you’ type thinking.

So you'd pay twenty to thirty quid for a stranger to choose your seat?

GordonBlue · 27/05/2024 02:41

This idea that a seat on an aeroplane has intrinsic and measurable value is wild. It's a plane. If you've got a ticket you've got a seat. It's not like you'll stand all the way to Australia if you don't pay extra.

wintersgold · 26/05/2024 22:55

Caketea · 26/05/2024 22:36

I’m just a nice person and would have moved. ‘Do to others as you’d have them do to you’ type thinking.

I'm a nice person and wouldn't have. To each their own

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 22:50

Caketea · 26/05/2024 22:36

I’m just a nice person and would have moved. ‘Do to others as you’d have them do to you’ type thinking.

You'd expect someone who had paid for their reservation to move for you when you hadn't? Is that what one should do to others?

Or you'd pay for a reservation that was essentially useless since you'd give it up if someone wanted it?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/05/2024 22:43

Hateliars34 · 26/05/2024 19:32

But then what was the point of having paid for a specific seat?!

I never pay for seats in advance but if I did and then got the same as people who didn't I'd be fuming!! What was their reason for not refunding you when you didn't get what you specifically paid for?

They didn't give a reason, mainly because they didn't reply at all

But then, as I learned with several other flights using them, there was little point in paying for a seat anyway as too many of them were broken Hmm

greengreyblue · 26/05/2024 22:41

@Caketea but the other passenger doesn’t have your saintly attitude does she?

greengreyblue · 26/05/2024 22:39

But why move when you wanted that seat and paid for it? That’s being a martyr, there’s no reason to move that trumps her own reason to stay in her paid for seat.

Caketea · 26/05/2024 22:36

I’m just a nice person and would have moved. ‘Do to others as you’d have them do to you’ type thinking.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 22:27

Even if they did hope nobody would sit in the middle seat...so what? Someone did, they accepted it. Better than expecting someone to leave the seat they paid for to please you!

Catsmere · 26/05/2024 22:18

NovemberAutumn · 26/05/2024 12:26

I was on a flight from Melbourne to Heathrow via Singapore and there was a family of 5. The mother and 3 kids were in the middle row of 4 and the husband was across the aisle, I( was next to him in the middle and DS1 aged 2 was in his own seat on the window.

The husband kicked off big time saying that his wife was terrified of flying and the airline had promised they would be all seated together. No amount of the cabin staff saying they were same row, but separated by the aisle made a difference- and no amount of the cabin staff (and other passengers) pointing out that there no such thing as 5 seats together because that did not actually exist made any difference. Finally the husband said they would be getting OFF the plane and would catch another one. Cheering when they left- but of course we had to wait for their luggage to leave as well and missed connecting flights etc.

I did wonder though- for a start they were English, so how had they come to Australia in the first place and clearly flown okay- and secondly- how was it apparently impossible to understand that the plane did not have 5 seats in a row. very very bizarre.

It did mean that DS1 and I could spread out for the entire flight.

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Prize idiots!

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