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Not to have given up my seat on plane

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Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

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Bernardo1 · 27/05/2024 18:27

I basically think yanbu, but were you travelling with the window seat psgr?

In which case you were clearly disapointed your 'Cunning plan' didn't work, with someone allocated 'Your' middle seat.

lucindasspunkyfunkyvoice · 27/05/2024 18:27

I always pay for a seat now. Learned my lesson the hard way a few years ago

i thought all families knew the score by now

riceuten · 27/05/2024 18:26

YANBU, but I must admit to being heartily sick of endless stories like this on social media. I’ve been the victim of this too (I booked a window seat, and a hysterical parent wanted me to swap with her and her teenage daughter so the latter could have a (free) window seat). She also spent most of the flight slagging me off and telling anyone who would listen that it was ‘absolutely disgusting’.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 27/05/2024 18:26

The cheeky bitch! I hope BA also reimbursed your money. I'm seriously annoyed on your behalf.

Lavenderblue11 · 27/05/2024 18:25

mileenderr · 26/05/2024 07:20

Usually I would say yanbu, but I was recently on a long-haul flight stuck in a middle seat between two friends, who spent the whole flight talking over me, passing snacks back and forth so that had clouded my view 😆.

Bet you book a seat next time 🤣

Airspice · 27/05/2024 18:15

I’m BA crew, you are absolutely NBU. You paid for the aisle seat so it was yours. If she wanted seats with her family she should have paid too. I would always try to help out and move people if I can but if someone didn’t want to move (especially if they paid) I would not make them.

CantFindMyMarbles · 27/05/2024 18:12

I’m absolutely fine to be asked…but people have to respect my response. Their lack of organisational skills isn’t my responsibility. I have no moral or legal obligation to move for people who are entitled

Toptops · 27/05/2024 18:07

karottybagel · 26/05/2024 07:30

This is also something to be considered. It is a common technique to try and get more space on a flight. While it is perfectly allowable and OP is under no obligation to move it is a bit sneaky. If they really wanted aisle and window they should ideally have gone for seperate rows

Why?
Since when has this been a social expectation?
Just don't talk across the middle seater

AnonyLonnymouse · 27/05/2024 18:06

You weren’t unreasonable to refuse to swap, although it would have been a nice thing to do, but you were unreasonable to book in such a way that there was an empty seat between you.

If lots of passengers booked seats in this way then it would make it almost impossible for other groups and families to sit together on a flight.

I think the ticketing systems need to make it impossible to leave empty seats between others on a single booking. Some theatres and similar venues already have this built into their systems.

Deepf60 · 27/05/2024 18:00

In January I broke my ankle (open fracture) and had to stay to have it pinned. When I was fit yo fly my insurance company paid for an escort and 3 seats for me to put my leg up during the flight. Before take off a woman sat in my aisle seat! Even when my paramedic escort explained we had paid for 3 seats because I needed 3 seats she still insisted that didn't matter! Eventually before take off she moved 3 rows down, we did need the in flight steward to intervene. The entitled walk among us!

Sometimesright · 27/05/2024 17:59

Or do as I do. which is to set my phone to remind me to check in on the first day check in opens. Then you usually get seated together and decent seats too. I would only pay for extra leg room.

Fatchilli99 · 27/05/2024 17:57

I completely understand you and your friend booking the seats you wanted. I would not get on a plane if you paid me but I would pay for an aisle if i had to
I don't understand people saying it's weird to leave a gap . The passengers who haven't reserved get this all the time from the airline . What are you all thinking 🧐🤷 it happens all the time sometimes miles apart too . Not as if you have to spend weeks like that . A few hours 🙈, even really long haul you get to see them at the other end FFS.
Totally with you not giving up your seat and she was rude and entitled to start getting narky when you said no, you paid extra for that seat.

hellhavenofury35 · 27/05/2024 17:55

I would have offered her the seat at a charge. If she wanted it she could pay. If she isn't willing to pay then fuck off. She obviously knew she could prebook the seat she wanted at a cost.
People are such CF to think you just ask and get it all for free.

JenG256 · 27/05/2024 17:53

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

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nikki1391 · 27/05/2024 17:51

Did you and your friend book the seats like that hoping no one would sit in the middle? I’m guilty of that once so I get it, me and my friend did this and luckily no one sat there (it was a night flight so minimal talking & we slept the whole way) but if someone did I would’ve been happy to move over/ ask if they wanted to switch

You have to look at it from her point of view aswell, sitting in the middle of 2 people who know eachother is a bit awkward and i do kinda believe when she said you were talking across her. If you didn’t know the other person that would be different. I also get that you paid for the seat so you wouldn’t exactly want to give it up. I think though when booking seats like that you have to bear in mind whoever could potentially sit there and if they would feel comfortable

parkrun500club · 27/05/2024 17:48

one time on a flight from Dubai an older Muslim woman asked me to swap BC she "can't" sit by a man. So ridiculous. Each time I told them too bad, not my problem. Good for you for standing your ground

again if that's actually a "need", the woman should have requested a seat next to a female when she booked

parkrun500club · 27/05/2024 17:48

We always pay for extra legroom because my DH has a medical issue, however because I’m short people always ask to swap seats. Pisses me off because no, we paid for these seats to ensure we get them

If it's to accommodate a medical issue why don't you request them? You shouldn't have to pay in that case.

I see that it's "normal" to hope that the middle seat doesn't get used. I don't think I'd rely on that unless it was a Tuesday lunchtime in January or something!

Havinganamechange · 27/05/2024 17:45

I’m lucky enough to be in the position that I can pay extra to get the seats I want. I have travelled a lot and had this so many times as was often traveling alone, the thinking was it didn’t matter where I sat. I would rarely swap to be honest unless it really suited me. Hate the aisle and middle seats, I always get a window.

UnfriendMe · 27/05/2024 17:43

Not unreasonable at all, if she wanted to pick her seat she should have paid, end of. I've had this happen to me a few times for a few diff reasons. Me and my husband both hate middle and window seats so we always choose aisle seats across from each other. Countless times someone has asked one of us to swap to be closer to their family, BC they wanted an aisle, and one time on a flight from Dubai an older Muslim woman asked me to swap BC she "can't" sit by a man. So ridiculous. Each time I told them too bad, not my problem. Good for you for standing your ground.

parkrun500club · 27/05/2024 17:41

If the lady who asked was between you and your friend, I'd have moved. I can't see the point of being split up. Why didn't you book two seats together if you were going to the trouble of booking seats?

I wish the airlines would stop this nonsense though. Just allocate seats (together) when people book - those who book first get the seats nearest the front of the aircraft. Done.

Thistlewoman · 27/05/2024 17:39

You were not being unreasonable -the woman was being a cheapskate. If it mattered that much to her to sit with her family she should have booked a seat. Good for you for sticking to your guns!

Littlechinagirl · 27/05/2024 17:34

I'm interested to know if you'd said "yeah sure that's £xx" whether they'd have been quite so arsey. If you paid they aren't any more entitled to it than you are!

Judecb · 27/05/2024 17:24

Not unreasonable at at. You pointed out that you had paid for the seat, maybe you should have offered to sell it to her! 😆

CecilyP · 27/05/2024 15:56

Valeriekat · 27/05/2024 06:52

You would only think that if you were someone who does this yourself. No-one wants a middle seat but flights these days are often full.
I always book an aisle seat when traveling, if my husband and I are traveling together we book adjacent aisle seats.

Wrong! I have never have done this and never even thought people did this till I read OP. As there is no mention of a particular preference for window and aisle in the OP, but plenty about the previous flight being cramped, it is reasonable to assume they hoped the middle seat would be empty. Subsequent to this, others on this thread have admitted to doing this.

Justsaynonow · 27/05/2024 11:24

dreaaamm · 26/05/2024 22:14

@Teateaandmoretea Teateaandmoretea · Today 21:19

They were clearly hoping no one would be in the middle seat.

Utter nonsense. As others have said. Some people want a window seat, some people want an aisle seat. Two mentally competent adults are going to choose where they want to sit that suits their preferences. Why should one choose a seat they don't want (the middle seat) if they are paying? It's a flight - even if it's long haul in most cases it's not going to be more than 14 hours or so. It is possible to cope with out being cheek by jowl with your partner/ spouse/friend/relative - assuming well, healthy adults.

NO ONE except an idiot would expect the middle seat would be unoccuppied because flight profit margins are so tight these days (hence charging for every seat reservation, checked bag and breath you take) that flights are scheduled to be overbooked. It's rare these days in economy at least to have many unsold seats.

The people who are banging on about this obviously don't fly very often.

Yup. I don't understand the people who talk about chatting to their seatmate, whether they know them or not. It's too loud! I put on noise cancelling headphones the instant the flight starts and don't take them off till the end. I need an aisleseat. DD likes the window. None of us, including the middle seat person, generally interact except to pass trays/garbage. I always tell the middle seat person they can have the arm rest (though I once had someone raise the armrest when I was up walking and she overflowed onto my seat. She was so nice I didn't have the heart to call her on it. DH goes across the aisle on another aisle seat if we fly together. Air France allows seat selection with purchase, except for the very basic/no luggage fare. When my flight was cancelled due to a strike they put me in a middle seat on the replacement flight but gave me the bulkhead so I could get up as needed.

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